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AlaskaGuy

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You are mistaking despotism for fascism... Despotism is a government ruled by a singular authority which rules with absolute power, especially in a cruel and oppressive way (think of Putin & Kim Jong-Un).

Fascism usually includes ultranationalism, racial supremacy, populism, authoritarianism, xenophobia and anti-immigration sentiment as well as opposition to liberal democracy. That's pretty much Trump!
Let's see if I have this correct ... protecting our borders from illegal immigrants, promoting jobs for Americans along with being energy independent is equivalent to 'fascism'. If you want a good look at fascism in action then look no further than our neighbors to the north (Canada) and what their govt. is doing to the protesters in Ottawa.
 

AlaskaGuy

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I actually felt I did, since I wanted to tackle the issues on a case by case basis.
He actually hasn't done anything wrong per se. He does have something of a burden, with 70 million people, being deluded into thinking Trump won the election.

Between the MAGA expectations of "how great America would have been it Trump hadn't had the election "stolen from him", and the general inflated sense of self entitlement that pervades the American populace, god himself couldn't live up to our standards.

Which is a basic flaw in human character, exacerbated by affluence, no matter how much you do for someone, or how much you give them, it's never enough.

(Not that I believe in god mind you). Yeah that's right people, I'm a godless heathen.
I take it you don't live in the US. Inflation here is the highest it's been in 40 years and its estimated to get far worse. Our fuel prices are insanely high atm and Biden's answer to this is to kill off pipelines and drilling on federal lands while sending energy sector jobs to the likes of Russia. Don't even get me started on the crime wave happening in our country nor our open southern border.
 

Squid Surprise

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Let's see if I have this correct ... protecting our borders from illegal immigrants, promoting jobs for Americans along with being energy independent is equivalent to 'fascism'. If you want a good look at fascism in action then look no further than our neighbors to the north (Canada) and what their govt. is doing to the protesters in Ottawa.
There’s a difference between “protecting your border from illegal immigrants“ and simply blaming illegal immigrants for your problems (and building a useless wall to appease your populace).

And dealing with the ILLEGAL convoy in Ottawa - which espouses “freedom”, yet waves swastikas, confederate flags, and defaces the monument to Terry Fox - is hardly fascism... THE CONVOY were the fascists!!

If Canada WERE fascist, they’d have pulled a Napoleon and released the cannons....
 

AlaskaGuy

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There’s a difference between “protecting your border from illegal immigrants“ and simply blaming illegal immigrants for your problems (and building a useless wall to appease your populace).

And dealing with the ILLEGAL convoy in Ottawa - which espouses “freedom”, yet waves swastikas, confederate flags, and defaces the monument to Terry Fox - is hardly fascism... THE CONVOY were the fascists!!

If Canada WERE fascist, they’d have pulled a Napoleon and released the cannons....
I take it you've never spent time in a country run by a dictator. I spent months in Belarus and witnessed peaceful protesters being beaten to the ground because the protest were considered 'illegal' by the govt. Trudeau kneeled at BLM protest while having the truckers and their supporters not only beaten half senseless but trampled by police horses including elderly ladies. Trudeau is no different from any other dictator. Beat the protesters, throw them in jail, control the media and freeze the protesters bank accounts. As far as nazi flags go ... get out with that. A handful of *****s were seen waving those flags on a street corner and told to leave by said protesters. Trudeau had the audacity to berate Cuba's treatment of their protesters while doing the same with Canada's.

btw if walls didn't work then maybe you can explain the fence around the capitol in Washington DC.
 

Squid Surprise

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I take it you've never spent time in a country run by a dictator. I spent months in Belarus and witnessed peaceful protesters being beaten to the ground because the protest were considered 'illegal' by the govt. Trudeau kneeled at BLM protest while having the truckers and their supporters not only beaten half senseless but trampled by police horses including elderly ladies. Trudeau is no different from any other dictator. Beat the protesters, throw them in jail, control the media and freeze the protesters bank accounts. As far as nazi flags go ... get out with that. A handful of *****s were seen waving those flags on a street corner and told to leave by said protesters. Trudeau had the audacity to berate Cuba's treatment of their protesters while doing the same with Canada's.

btw if walls didn't work then maybe you can explain the fence around the capitol in Washington DC.
I see... so the BLM movement was clearly a bunch of fascists while a bunch of neo-nazis are fine with you... I’m beginning to understand why you are a Trump supporter...

”Freedom” is all well and good until it affects the freedoms of others.... this convoy has held the city of Ottawa hostage over “freedom” failing to see the irony in that they have denied the citizens of Ottawa THEIR freedom... the police gave these fools plenty of warnings before moving in to disperse and arrest those who refused to leave.
 

AlaskaGuy

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I see... so the BLM movement was clearly a bunch of fascists while a bunch of neo-nazis are fine with you... I’m beginning to understand why you are a Trump supporter...

”Freedom” is all well and good until it affects the freedoms of others.... this convoy has held the city of Ottawa hostage over “freedom” failing to see the irony in that they have denied the citizens of Ottawa THEIR freedom... the police gave these fools plenty of warnings before moving in to disperse and arrest those who refused to leave.
I never once stated BLM were fascist and btw there are movements that are just as bad as fascism. If you have any doubts then read up on the Bolshevik movement. Those truckers and their supports haven't destroyed one meter of public and/or private property. They are doing the same thing the protesters in Belarus and Cuba did .. protesting against a dictatorship in the making.

btw remember the months long BLM riots? I do.

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captaincranky

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I take it you don't live in the US. Inflation here is the highest it's been in 40 years and its estimated to get far worse.
Oh but I do. And yes, the prices are miserable. The upside is that in PA, we just have to deal with inflation, whereas you have the additional, and not inconsiderable burden, of Sarah Palin.
Our fuel prices are insanely high atm and Biden's answer to this is to kill off pipelines and drilling on federal lands while sending energy sector jobs to the likes of Russia.
Yeah well, I don't think Biden will be "sending our jobs off to Russia", anytime soon, considering the current state of affairs.

Trump would more than likely invite Russia to invade the Ukraine, as long as he could get a loan from Putin, to build a hotel and golf course there..But at least you'd be getting cheaper gas. That's all that really matters, isn't it?

Besides, if Biden allowed drilling on federal lands, the next thing you'f be bellyaching about, is how rich the oil companies were getting, while pumping Yellowstone dry.
Don't even get me started on the crime wave happening in our country nor our open southern border.
Ah yes,the crime wave, and especially gun violence among our denizens of "da hood", is a distinct problem. And I'm.very much hoping my tentative solution will remove any misconception that I'm one of those nasty liberal, left wing Fascists.

Instead of pumping more money into education, while trying to stop the flow of guns into the inner city, I think we should send more. However, like "safe injection sites", we should allow the would be hoodlum assassins to be trained at a "free safe gun range" Once they sharpen their skills,. they should be able to kill one another freely, without harming innocent car windshields, or innocent bystanders.. Maybe give them single action Colt 45s. and places to have gunfights, like the "good old days of the wild west"..

I had a semester of sociology. While that's not much, I did learn enough to understand that values are instilled by the family. So, if your "baby daddy" is a gun toting crack dealer, junior is likely to turn out the same way (**), I say, if you raised this generation of sociopaths, f*cking own it. Don't go begging for money from the government to solve a problem you created. Flowers, balloons, and candles are still in good supply. And those mind numbing vigils well, they'll take your mind off inflation, at least for a while..

So, it's nice to hear from a denizen of our 49th state. Send me a postcard of a starving polar bear sometime, wontcha? (Preferably with oil derricks in the background). Or maybe a picture of bad a** Sarah, shootin' sumpin.

(**) "history ignored is destined to repeat itself" ;)
 
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AlaskaGuy

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Oh but I do. And yes, the prices are miserable. The upside is that in PA, we just have to deal with inflation, whereas you have the additional, and not inconsiderable burden, of Sarah Palin.

Yeah well, I don't think Biden will be "sending our jobs off to Russia", anytime soon, considering the current state of affairs.

Trump would more than likely invite Russia to invade the Ukraine, as long as he could get a loan from Putin, to build a hotel and golf course there..But at least you'd be getting cheaper gas. That's all that really matters, isn't it?

Besides, if Biden allowed drilling on federal lands, the next thing you'f be bellyaching about, is how rich the oil companies were getting, while pumping Yellowstone dry.

Ah yes,the crime wave, and especially gun violence among our denizens of "da hood", is a distinct problem. And I'm.very much hoping my tentative solution will remove any misconception that I'm one of those nasty liberal, left wing Fascists.

Instead of pumping more money into education, while trying to stop the flow of guns into the inner city, I think we should send more. However, like "safe injection sites", we should allow the would be hoodlum assassins to be trained at a "free safe gun range" Once they sharpen their skills,. they should be able to kill one another freely, without harming innocent car windshields, or innocent bystanders.. Maybe give them single action Colt 45s. and places to have gunfights, like the "good old days of the wild west"..

I had a semester of sociology. While that's not much, I did learn enough to understand that values are instilled by the family. So, if your "baby daddy" is a gun toting crack dealer, junior is likely to turn out the same way (**), I say, if you raised this generation of sociopaths, f*cking own it. Don't go begging for money from the government to solve a problem you created. Flowers, balloons, and candles are still in good supply. And those mind numbing vigils well, they'll take your mind off inflation, at least for a while..

So, it's nice to hear from a denizen of our 49th state. Send me a postcard of a starving polar bear sometime, wontcha? (Preferably with oil derricks in the background). Or maybe a picture of bad a** Sarah, shootin' sumpin.

(**) "history ignored is destined to repeat itself" ;)
Last time I checked it was under Obama's presidency that Putin invaded and annexed almost a third of Ukraine while Obama refused to send Ukraine weapons including anti tank missiles to defend themselves. Trump on the other hand sent Ukraine tens of billions of dollars of anti tank missiles. Not sure who Russia invaded during Trump's presidency but it wasn't Ukraine. You might want to do a better job on keeping up with the times. btw it wasn't Trump that killed off two major pipelines while banning drilling on federal lands in order to help send this country into a depression. As far as sending jobs to Russia ... a lot of oil sector jobs are going over there seeing how Russia is ramping up its oil production while Biden is busy killing off ours. I spent close to a year working in the Russia oil patch and what befuddled me was how western banks refused to loan oil companies who drilled in ANWR yet don't have a problem bankrolling the Kremlin for Arctic oil and gas exploration when Russia has one of the worst environmental track records in that field.
 
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captaincranky

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Last time I checked it was under Obama's presidency that Putin invaded and annexed almost a third of Ukraine while Obama refused to send Ukraine weapons
Last time I checked Biden sent a sh!t pile of weapons to the Ukraine, and didn't try to bribe or blackmail them for doing so.

Or did the media "misrepresent" the Great Pumpkin & Rudy Giuliani's motives again?
 

AlaskaGuy

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Last time I checked Biden sent a sh!t pile of weapons to the Ukraine, and didn't try to bribe or blackmail them for doing so.

Or did the media "misrepresent" the Great Pumpkin & Rudy Giuliani's motives again?
Remember that time Biden bragged about telling Ukraine the US would withhold $1 billion dollars in US aid if Ukraine didn't fire the prosecutor that was investigating his son Hunter. We remember. :)
 

wiyosaya

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Instead of pumping more money into education, while trying to stop the flow of guns into the inner city, I think we should send more. However, like "safe injection sites", we should allow the would be hoodlum assassins to be trained at a "free safe gun range" Once they sharpen their skills,. they should be able to kill one another freely, without harming innocent car windshields, or innocent bystanders.. Maybe give them single action Colt 45s. and places to have gunfights, like the "good old days of the wild west"..

I had a semester of sociology. While that's not much, I did learn enough to understand that values are instilled by the family. So, if your "baby daddy" is a gun toting crack dealer, junior is likely to turn out the same way (**), I say, if you raised this generation of sociopaths, f*cking own it. Don't go begging for money from the government to solve a problem you created. Flowers, balloons, and candles are still in good supply. And those mind numbing vigils well, they'll take your mind off inflation, at least for a while..
Which brings to my mind, anyway, that the truth of violence is that it is a problem that has much deeper origins that don't necessarily lie in politics, and cross political boundaries without prejudice. However, when politicians stoke the fires of division and then wonder, duh, how come there's so much violence - it makes me wonder are any politicians actually worthy of holding a political office? Gee, I wonder which politician did stoke the fires of division recently?? :confused:

And about that inflation - the one good thing is that it will likely bring higher interest rates to savings accounts as those interest rates have been :poop: for many, many years now. Its also an apolitical phenomenon.
So, it's nice to hear from a denizen of our 49th state. Send me a postcard of a starving polar bear sometime, wontcha? (Preferably with oil derricks in the background). Or maybe a picture of bad a** Sarah, shootin' sumpin.
The more likely picture of her would be viewing Russia from her porch! 🤣
(**) "history ignored is destined to repeat itself" ;)
Agreed.
 

wiyosaya

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Remember that time Biden bragged about telling Ukraine the US would withhold $1 billion dollars in US aid if Ukraine didn't fire the prosecutor that was investigating his son Hunter. We remember. :)
:rolleyes: Citing a debunked myth is not likely to convince anyone other than those looking to revive the boogyman that is under their beds at night. Heck, even republicans found no truth to this.
 

envirovore

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People like you do not really know what nazi is. You only know to use it to call anyone that does not have the same view as you.
I'm well aware of what a Nazi is.
Just so happens that they tend to be fans of the Orange Gobblin, and he seems quite okay with them as well.

I can easily disagree with someone with a different point of view without having to resort to stupidity like that. I'm not above calling racist sh*t-heels for what they are though.

Keep making baseless assumptions about people you don't know though, you'd fit right in on his platform
 
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MyIOnU

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I'm well aware of what a Nazi is.
Just so happens that they tend to be fans of the Orange Gobblin, and he seems quite okay with them as well.

I can easily disagree with someone with a different point of view without having to resort to stupidity like that. I'm not above calling racist sh*t-heels for what they are though.

Keep making baseless assumptions about people you don't know though, you'd fit right in on his platform
Nope you are still do not really know what is nazi. Almost half of the Country voted for Trump. Based on your limited knowledge, they were nazi. You think you could be still safe in your house? All you can do is calling people that do not agree with you nazi or racist. That is what you are.
 
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AlaskaGuy

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:rolleyes: Citing a debunked myth is not likely to convince anyone other than those looking to revive the boogyman that is under their beds at night. Heck, even republicans found no truth to this.
So you're going to tell us that our eyes and ears are deceiving us?

FLASHBACK, 2018: Joe Biden Brags At CFR Meeting About Withholding Aid To Ukraine To Force Firing Of Prosecutor
 

envirovore

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Nope you are still do not really know what is nazi. Almost half of the Country voted for Trump. Based on your limited knowledge, they are nazi. You think you can be still safe in your house? All you can do is calling people that do not agree with you nazi or racist. That is what you are.
Yeah, sure whatever.

Show me where I said all Trump supporters are racists/Nazis, good luck finding it.
I'm aware not all of them are, I'm also aware that his fanbase does tend to include quite the following of them though. So much so that they held a rally in Charlottesville VA - something about jews not replacing them. Some fine people, iirc according to Trump.

But again, you're more interested in spinning and making things up about others.
 
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