The PS5 has already sold 7.8 million units, beating the PS4's launch record

texasrattler

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According to Bloomberg, Sony did say those things is the point I am making. Bloomberg reported that Sony was having issues meeting the 15 million that they were expecting which ended up being 10 million units expected by March 2021. That never happened. Sony simply saying they didn't say anything doesn't have much weight as they could just be lying.
Sony adjusted their forecast, just cause they didn't come out and publicly say anything doesn't mean much when a business news company is reporting things that tend to be accurate. Which in this case was. Sony didn't have the stock due to supply/yield issues. Which in turn is why we still can't find any and onto of that, now chip issues.
 

Burty117

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According to Bloomberg, Sony did say those things is the point I am making.
But they didn't, you're believing Bloomberg vs any evidence, any at all, no source, no nothing, just some writer at Bloomberg who wanted some clicks so pretended he had a source and made up some obvious story (middle of a pandemic and the worst Silicon shortage we've ever had, pretty obvious Sony will also struggle).
Just cause they didn't come out and publicly say anything doesn't mean much when a business news company is reporting things that tend to be accurate. Which in this case was.
Think about your own logic, a reporter makes a fairly obvious guess and that makes it fact? It only became fact on this very news article when we got actual proof of what has actually been sold. Between when Bloomberg ran it's article till now, it's just been a "reliable insider source" guess...

My point is, stop believing everything you read on the internet, unless the media in question can backup their claims with some kind of proof or evidence, it's probably just been either a guess or a "leak" or something else you should take with a large pinch of salt.
 

texasrattler

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But they didn't, you're believing Bloomberg vs any evidence, any at all, no source, no nothing, just some writer at Bloomberg who wanted some clicks so pretended he had a source and made up some obvious story (middle of a pandemic and the worst Silicon shortage we've ever had, pretty obvious Sony will also struggle).

Think about your own logic, a reporter makes a fairly obvious guess and that makes it fact? It only became fact on this very news article when we got actual proof of what has actually been sold. Between when Bloomberg ran it's article till now, it's just been a "reliable insider source" guess...

My point is, stop believing everything you read on the internet, unless the media in question can backup their claims with some kind of proof or evidence, it's probably just been either a guess or a "leak" or something else you should take with a large pinch of

But they didn't, you're believing Bloomberg vs any evidence, any at all, no source, no nothing, just some writer at Bloomberg who wanted some clicks so pretended he had a source and made up some obvious story (middle of a pandemic and the worst Silicon shortage we've ever had, pretty obvious Sony will also struggle).

Think about your own logic, a reporter makes a fairly obvious guess and that makes it fact? It only became fact on this very news article when we got actual proof of what has actually been sold. Between when Bloomberg ran it's article till now, it's just been a "reliable insider source" guess...

My point is, stop believing everything you read on the internet, unless the media in question can backup their claims with some kind of proof or evidence, it's probably just been either a guess or a "leak" or something else you should take with a large pinch of salt.
Guess, what makes you think they guessed. Reporters don't disclose sources. Bloomberg is a creditable source, no reason not to believe what they are reporting.
Sony and most manufacturers tend to deny anything of making their stocks go down. Just what they all do.

They reported that Sony were having issues with supply/yields. As far as anyone can tell it was factual and no reason to think otherwise. Wasn't like they made up some random #. The numbers just didn't come out of then air.

Maybe you should just stop thinking that Sony didn't say those things behind closed doors and they did have these issues. Which is the reason they don't have PS5s now.

Also selling 7.8 million units, just barely beating ps4 sales by 200k units isn't all that exciting and likely only said anything so that ppl will forget that a good chunk of the whole world still don't have a ps5. 8 Billion ppl in the world, 7 million sold, 20 million ppl wanting a ps5. Leaves a lot to be desired.

Sony never had the numbers they wanted and realized that. Do you honestly believe Sony was going for just 7 million units sold by the end of March 2021, just barely beating out the last generation or more logically they were going for 10 - 15 million units but fell short to do issues. Sure Sony is happy they beat last gen but no company has a goal of just barely beating their last generation product. Their goal would have 10+ million which what Bloomberg was reporting.
 

Burty117

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The ignorance of some ppl. You try have a conversation then they come up with stupid comments. Sad world n times we live in.
All you've said is "I believe the *put media name here* without any evidence whatsoever".

That's cool, you do you, I'm more skeptical of the vast majority of the media as a whole. You see soo many baseless stories or outright rubbish in the news it's quite hard to trust any of them. I mean look at the BBC articles about PewDiePie for example, they literally labelled him a Nazi for a while.

More recently, AstraZenica getting a pounding in the media for blood clots yet when you look at the stats, the Pfizer jab had about the same rate of reported blood clots. Oh wait, AstraZenica is non-profit? hhhmmmm...
 

dangh

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The ignorance of some ppl. You try have a conversation then they come up with stupid comments. Sad world n times we live in.
You clearly stated at the beginning that Sony said about the 10 millions and 14 millions of planned ps5 production. And you have failed to provide a single place, where Sony did actually said that - because they didnt. But you keep bringing up some articles which do not provide any sources (or saying about gossips or unnamed insiders) and you think that is a reliable source?

You lied here:
"Kinda hard to believe any of this when Sony themselves said they had like 14 million units to go at launch then announced just before launch they only had 10 million units. So where's the 10 million at when only 7.8 million units were sold?
Anyone or any company can make up numbers these days."

and still cant back it up. You, and Bloomberg, are making up the numbers, but while I can understand Bloomberg and clickbait articles as this is their source of monies, I can't understand how a normal person can be this gullible.

Facts are simple. If Sony said anything, it should be traced and presented. You failed to do so. Instead you pointing to gossips and third party estimations without any solid foundations and trying to bend it somehow to match your theory.
 

texasrattler

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You clearly stated at the beginning that Sony said about the 10 millions and 14 millions of planned ps5 production. And you have failed to provide a single place, where Sony did actually said that - because they didnt. But you keep bringing up some articles which do not provide any sources (or saying about gossips or unnamed insiders) and you think that is a reliable source?

You lied here:
"Kinda hard to believe any of this when Sony themselves said they had like 14 million units to go at launch then announced just before launch they only had 10 million units. So where's the 10 million at when only 7.8 million units were sold?
Anyone or any company can make up numbers these days."

and still cant back it up. You, and Bloomberg, are making up the numbers, but while I can understand Bloomberg and clickbait articles as this is their source of monies, I can't understand how a normal person can be this gullible.

Facts are simple. If Sony said anything, it should be traced and presented. You failed to do so. Instead you pointing to gossips and third party estimations without any solid foundations and trying to bend it somehow to match your theory.
Bloomberg was the one who reported that which is why I posted that link. They reported that. Sony denied it basically. But the story as far as anyone knows is actual simply do to that the numbers didn't add up. I have no reason not to believe the story isn't accurate.

It is what it is. Some will believe Bloombergs report that Sony did have issues and lowered their forecast/numbers, others will just believe Sony and go with their denial statement.
 

theSon

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Sold is sold... it's not Sony's fault if they are scalpers or not. The problem isn't the company for selling products (ps5, gpu etc.).... the problem is people who actually pay the asking price from scalpers. Companies can't control if their product is scalped (even if they only ship to one per household like you swear on) scalpers will always find a way to do it. The problem will always be on people who are welling to pay the price. Let the PS5 and video cards sit on eBay for 3-5x asking price and you will see how quick they start lowering them to msrp.

Sell them only in store only, one per customer.

Allow preorders but only in store.

No sales of PS5's, Xbox Series X, AMD GPUS and CPUS, and Nvidia video cards ONLINE. You don't sell them on your websites, BOTS can't compete


But why would retailers do that, they are making tons of profit selling all them to scalpers.

OK, MAKE SCALPING ILLEGAL PERIOD