The United States no longer prioritizes Russia as a major cyber threat

I dont think it's as simple as that, unfortunately. A big part of it - sure, but it's a pretty complex situation. Everyone wants a simple solutions to everything these days, but that's how we ended up where we are now, in my opinion.
It doesn't get any simpler than the voters, they knew how dangerous Trump is and they still voted for him.... without the voters he wouldn't be president..... simple.
 
we agree there. but its the same the people here getting all buthurt. its been 2 months. after 4 years ill give my opinon on how it went. we can argue all day about it. but trump is goona do what he said he would do. in my opinion so far hes doing what his voters voted for.
sure, its not like this is his second presidency. but thats neither here nor there.
do you think that laying down for Russia is what ya'll voted for?? be honest
 
It doesn't get any simpler than the voters, they knew how dangerous Trump is and they still voted for him.... without the voters he wouldn't be president..... simple.
if dems would have dropped men in womens sports and bathrooms and gender transitioning for children without parents knowledge... trump wouldn't have won
 
It doesn't get any simpler than the voters, they knew how dangerous Trump is and they still voted for him.... without the voters he wouldn't be president..... simple.
of course, in the end there were people voting for him. but the motivations to do so are not as simple as you might think, is what I'm tryin to say here
 
I dont think shame is as powerful a tool as you think. If that was the case, we wouldn't have such extensive laws on defamation, etc. here's a counter question - what happens if shaming someone doesn't work? can one shame people like Musk or Gates to get them back in check, as you say?
it is. you are clearly not happy with what you see so you will vote accordingly. everyone bases it on their lives. there are some people with no shame and then other tools can be used like ignoring them.
there is truth in fighting a bully with kindness. or ignoring the person seeking attention
 
it is. you are clearly not happy with what you see so you will vote accordingly. everyone bases it on their lives. there are some people with no shame and then other tools can be used like ignoring them.
so someone makes you lose your job, or cuts your social security, you just ignore that sh*t??
 
so someone makes you lose your job, or cuts your social security, you just ignore that sh*t??
happens all the time! private sector you can lose your job at any point. are you going to find the ceo and scold him? thats why I think people live in a bubble sometimes. never lost a job? go with the flow a better one will come around. I guess if someone has no skills then that sucks... but then why should you think you should keep that job with no skills..

has SS been cut? also I dont want ss cut, but im going into retirment thinking I wont have it.. just saying.. no matter if dems or republicans running that poo show
 
sure, its not like this is his second presidency. but thats neither here nor there.
do you think that laying down for Russia is what ya'll voted for?? be honest
I dont think we are laying down to russia personally. news is very polarizing. read other news outlets they are still keeping an eye out for hackjing from russia.. I think its pretty crazy to think the us government tells the world we no longer are worried about russia... then underneath just pull all firewalls and laugh about it. its not whats happening.. if so then yeah we are goona get hacked alot. but guess what? we will then put firewalls back on LOL im making it simple but you get what im saying I think
 
happens all the time! private sector you can lose your job at any point. are you going to find the ceo and scold him? thats why I think people live in a bubble sometimes. never lost a job? go with the flow a better one will come around. I guess if someone has no skills then that sucks... but then why should you think you should keep that job with no skills..

has SS been cut?
good point, not yet, but since you said Trump intend to make good on his promises - why would you expect anything else?
do you consider the private sector to be the standard when it comes to job security? why should people not have as good a job security as federal employees (used to have) rather than always stressing about being laid off? dont you think there's something wrong with the system when constant cuts and layoffs have become standard?

also, my bad for getting off topic of using shame to keep society in check. what about hate speech? does that also get thrown in the same bucket?
 
good point, not yet, but since you said Trump intend to make good on his promises - why would you expect anything else?
do you consider the private sector to be the standard when it comes to job security? why should people not have as good a job security as federal employees (used to have) rather than always stressing about being laid off? dont you think there's something wrong with the system when constant cuts and layoffs have become standard?

also, my bad for getting off topic of using shame to keep society in check. what about hate speech? does that also get thrown in the same bucket?
private sector is far from perfect. nothing wrong with job security. but you should also be able to prove you are doing a good job. I know teachers and I like teachers. same thing though they get tenure and some of these people should have lost their job years ago but no checks on quality of work after they get there. personally large coorps same way. reason we need unions. if we all had 100 person and below employee companies I dont believe we would need unions. smaller the company typically the more fluid and less need for 15 managers watching the women or man dig the hole.
 
The problem is that people who voted for Trump lack common sense and the basic understanding of how geopolitics work. All they care about is getting cheap gas for their gas guzzling pickup trucks and couldn't care less about anyone on the other side of the ocean.

They simply don't understand the idea of giving water to a neighbor whose house is on fire. They want to charge that neighbor for the water or tell them to get water from the neighbor on the other side of the street. Even if it means the fire will spread to their own house they'd rather not help.

Actually you have it backwards.

Listen to any historian or geopolitical professor, particularly the most prominent and respected, such as the great Prof Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, Prof Jeffrey Sachs, and the infamous Prof John Mearsheimer...

Putin has always wanted peace, the West has been longing for war and pushing for it.
The west gets away with terrorism around the world, as well as overthrowing elected leaders to replace with puppets. Have you considered perhaps the West is the criminal?

Look at what happened in 2008 Nato summit which Vladimir Putin attended.

Russia, like any country, has a right to defend themselves.
 
if dems would have dropped men in womens sports and bathrooms and gender transitioning for children without parents knowledge... trump wouldn't have won
So you are saying if the Democrats would have taken freedoms away they would have won?

If losing freedom is what people want then they should move to China Russia or North Korea and leave the States once and for all.
 
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So you are saying if the Democrats would have taken freedoms away they would be have won?

If losing freedom is what people want then they should move to China Russia or North Korea and leave the States once and for all.
what freedoms would be taken away? man and women still have bathrooms. children dont have any rights to change gender they are not 18. especially without parent consent. are you saying 5 year old should have fully adult rights to make choices? if so then change the law
 
The gutter press, reality TV and social media have robbed us of our ability to think critically and distinguish facts from fiction. Our orange baboon in chief and his defenders in this topic are showing us that making sense no longer matters.

1984 was wrong in thinking that it would be governments driving the destruction of individual thought. The most important concept that emerged isn't Big Brother. It's Newspeak. It's willing reality into the barest, ugliest gut feels. Just say whatever comes to mind loudly enough and plenty will think you must be right.
 
what freedoms would be taken away? man and women still have bathrooms. children dont have any rights to change gender they are not 18. especially without parent consent. are you saying 5 year old should have fully adult rights to make choices? if so then change the law
First of all no doctor would be operating on any minor without parental consent, that's the law through each of the 50 states, just because Republicans lie about it doesn't make true.

Second of all if someone doesn't feel ok with the gender they were born with NO ONE should have a saying over that person's decision to change it and for that they need accommodations no different as when slavery was abolished and women were allowed to participate on everything men does, making accomodations for all types of people, gender, color and race.
 
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First of all no doctor would be operating on any minor without parental consent, that's the law through each of the 50 states, just because Republicans lie about it doesn't make true.

Second of all of someone doesn't feel ok with the gender they were born NO ONE should have a saying over that person's decision to change it and for that they need accommodations no different as when slavery was abolished and women were allowed to participate on everything men does, making accomodations for all types of people, gender, color and race.

wrong doctors are immune
 
Right from the Medical Book of Ethics:

When parental consent is required :

For most medical procedures, a parent or legal guardian must provide consent for a minor
The consent form must be signed before surgery can be scheduled.

When parental consent may not be required:

In an emergency if a delay would endanger the child's health.
If the child is emancipated, meaning they are legally responsible for themselves.
If the child is mature enough to understand the risks and benefits of the treatment.

As I said just because Republicans lie about it doesn't make true.
 
Right from the Medical Book of Ethics:

When parental consent is required :

For most medical procedures, a parent or legal guardian must provide consent for a minor
The consent form must be signed before surgery can be scheduled.

When parental consent may not be required:

In an emergency if a delay would endanger the child's health.
If the child is emancipated, meaning they are legally responsible for themselves.
If the child is mature enough to understand the risks and benefits of the treatment.

As I said just because Republicans lie about it doesn't make true.
you skipped the part where someone groomed them to go see the doctor in the first place. I know plenty of people who when kids said they liked dressing as the other sex. should they have gone and saw a doctor? all it takes is 1 groomer to put that idea in a childs head.
 
you skipped the part where someone groomed them to go see the doctor in the first place. I know plenty of people who when kids said they liked dressing as the other sex. should they have gone and saw a doctor? all it takes is 1 groomer to put that idea in a childs head.
There's always someone that can be groomed, look at all those Trump supporters....Trump is the mastermind of all.
 
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