The US just banned Chinese humanoid robots and power inverters over security fears

[Plutoisaplanet]

Mate you’re literally saying that Tesla’s FSD is more like FSD despite you having to effectively shadow drive the entire way which means you might as well just drive. Merc have effectively canned it becaure FSD doesn’t really work in Europe, mainly because roads aren’t just in grids and there’s a lot of contextual elements to driving whereas in America there’s literally a sign telling you to do everything.

I’m saying MB is moving to copy Tesla. Except that MB’s new more capable system is L2 because it requires your hands to be on the steering wheel.

By claiming “FSD doesn’t really work in Europe”, aren’t you essentially admitting that EU regulations allowed an unsafe system to be introduced by MB to Europe? And once again, Tesla FSD does work in city driving in Europe lol. 5 different European countries have legally permitted it EVERYWHERE. This is far greater support than MB L3 system ever got which only worked on a few roads in Germany, California, and Nevada. And if the US was so easy to drive in then why did MB never expand it there?? https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...d-as-germans-try-tesla-s-approach-264126.html

For starters, the Drive Pilot Level 3 system would only work at low speeds of up to 40 mph (64 kph) on a few stretches of highway in Germany, California, and Nevada. Mercedes-Benz later increased the speed limit to 59 mph (95 kph), but only in Germany. Meanwhile, Tesla FSD can drive in almost all conditions, regardless of road type, including in city traffic.
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Instead, Mercedes-Benz would expand the capabilities of its driver assistance systems, namely the MB.Drive Assist Pro it developed in partnership with Nvidia. Despite being only a Level 2 system, this is already more capable, mirroring Tesla FSD.

Anyways, you once again provided no sources and have essentially written a whole post of lies. Whether you’re unaware about autonomous systems or you’re purposely misrepresenting reality, I will not respond to you again UNLESS you provide at least one source. If you do not provide evidence next time, then you’re tacitly admitting you’re making it up as you go. So far you’ve been wasting my time while I keep citing evidence to re-explain myself.

 

[LordVile95]

I’m saying MB is moving to copy Tesla. Except that MB’s new more capable system is L2 because it requires your hands to be on the steering wheel.

Not really they’re winding it down as a L3 system doesn’t really work.

By claiming “FSD doesn’t really work in Europe”, aren’t you essentially admitting that EU regulations allowed an unsafe system to be introduced by MB to Europe? And once again, Tesla FSD does work in city driving in Europe lol. 5 different European countries have legally permitted it EVERYWHERE. This is far greater support than MB L3 system ever got which only worked on a few roads in Germany, California, and Nevada. And if the US was so easy to drive in then why did MB never expand it there?? https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...d-as-germans-try-tesla-s-approach-264126.html

No it’s more the road layouts don’t accommodate it and the system has to act on intuition rather than laid out markers.

And which counties are those? Considering it’s not a L3 system it’s not FSD is it.

Anyways, you once again provided no sources and have essentially written a whole post of lies. Whether you’re unaware about autonomous systems or you’re purposely misrepresenting reality, I will not respond to you again UNLESS you provide at least one source. If you do not provide evidence next time, then you’re tacitly admitting you’re making it up as you go. So far you’ve been wasting my time while I keep citing evidence to re-explain myself.

Sources for what exactly? That European roads are more difficult to drive on than American ones, do you really require a source for that.

 

[Endymio]

. Merc have effectively canned it becaure FSD doesn’t really work in Europe

So you admit you lied when you claimed Mercedes had a terrific FSD product, in an attempt to knock Tesla?

Do you ever think before making these posts?

 

[wiyosaya]

I’m saying MB is moving to copy Tesla. Except that MB’s new more capable system is L2 because it requires your hands to be on the steering wheel.

Why would anyone in their right mind copy crap that is known to have serious problems?

Keep dreaming.

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[wiyosaya]

So you admit you lied when you claimed Mercedes had a terrific FSD product, in an attempt to knock Tesla?

No one needs to Knock Tesla. Tesla's own actions skillfully knock themselves.

Do you ever think before making these posts?

It's clear you don't.

 

[Plutoisaplanet]

Why would anyone in their right mind copy crap that is known to have serious problems?

Keep dreaming.

Tesla Hacker Recovers Missing Data in Fatal $243 Million Autopilot Crash | TeslaNorth.com

Well-known Tesla firmware hacker and data miner @greentheonly played a pivotal role in a recent landmark case against Tesla, helping uncover critical crash data the company initially claimed it did not have — reports The Washington Post. His discovery ultimately turned the tide in court, leading...

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Your claim is with Autopilot and has nothing to do with FSD. By that logic, MB.Drive Assist Pro is already doomed to be canceled because they canceled another driver assistance system. Are you making that claim lol?

Anyways, you'd have to ask Mercedes Benz and BMW why they're copying Tesla. They're the ones who are following Tesla's lead. The most obvious reason is probably that Tesla is making nearly $1B of annual revenue from FSD with almost 1.5 million paid FSD users (and rising rapidly with 55% of new car buyers paying): https://www.saasrise.com/news/tesla...s-opt-in-8d83fac7-c49d-4a8a-8518-4e002f457660

Finally, the Netherlands' regulatory agency obviously found it safe enough to approve for use in their entire country after over a million miles of use on local roads. They literally say Tesla FSD "is safer than other driver assistance systems" (that means the competition): https://www.rdw.nl/en/news/2026/rdw...-with-provisional-validity-in-the-netherlands

 

[BobHome]

I find this Sadly Comical.
Since we helped rebuild Japan after WWII (in our image), the country had been moving factories overseas and shutting them down here. When the labor got too expensive in said country because we Americanized it, they moved to another country.

With China, it pretty much backfired. the 'teach them to fish instead of feeding them' with their billion population and plenty of room to grow, they learned how to GROW. Since they used long-term planning, something the USA seems to have forgotten how to do because short-term profit is king, we're now way behind the eight-ball. So the response is: build your factories in America and we'll ban their products so you'll have sales. Eventually.

One long-term example is rare earth metals, expensive to mine and refine... they started @ 40 years ago and we just laughed at them spending so outrageously, we'll just buy what we need as cheaply as we can. Now they have a well-oiled machine and can hold that against tariffs and such so the US is kind of running scared, especially now that they need so many of them for their humongous data centers.
<departing soapbox>

 

[BobHome]

I pretty much believe Nvidia does not care where Unitree sells their robots, just that they keep buying their chips.

 

[RudyBob]

How convenient for Eric Trump, who is an investor and the chief strategy adviser for Foundation Future Industries, a robotics startup. The company builds humanoid robots named Phantom for industrial labor and defense applications.

Yes. He is a good business man, he makes money and creates jobs so others make money. That's a good thing. Socialism/Communism does not do that. They tax and fee you to death. Trump lowered taxes so the workers of the USA keep more of what is theirs and not be forced to hand it over to be distributed to buy votes