Thunderbolt 5 arrives next year with up to 120Gbps bandwidth

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Something to look forward to: Intel has been hinting at the next generation of Thunderbolt since last year, pledging to double the bandwidth of Thunderbolt 4 in an upgrade closely resembling USB4 2.0. As they unveil the full details, the company outlines its lofty aspirations for the forthcoming cable standard.

Intel recently announced that developers can start working with Thunderbolt 5 from Q4 2024. As previously disclosed, this next-generation cable specification will support up to 120Gbps of bandwidth in specific scenarios, with the company aiming to greatly expand its range of use cases.

While demonstrating the technology last year, Intel hadn't confirmed its name, simply referring to it as the next-generation Thunderbolt. However, it's now officially named Thunderbolt 5. This decision will make the branding less confusing compared to USB, where significant differences in capabilities exist between USB4 and USB4 2.0.

Under standard operation, Thunderbolt 5 allows for 80Gbps bidirectional transfers, doubling Thunderbolt 4's performance. However, the new specification can also switch to an alternate mode when it detects data-hungry devices, allowing for 120Gbps transmission while receiving at 40Gbps. Intel hasn't finalized the device requirements for the overclocked bandwidth yet. Initially, the 120Gbps mode is limited to cables that are two meters or shorter.

The increased bandwidth of Thunderbolt 5 offers a wider range of connectivity options for storage, displays, and other hardware. While Thunderbolt 4 can connect up to two 4K 60Hz monitors, Intel claims that its successor can handle dual 4K 144Hz screens. The company has also confirmed compatibility with dual 8K monitors without specifying the maximum refresh rate at that resolution. The new standard could theoretically support refresh rates up to 540Hz, depending on the resolution. Furthermore, Thunderbolt 5 supports up to three DisplayPort 2.0 streams.

Intel envisions that this upgrade will encourage gamers to use Thunderbolt for external graphics cards, allowing laptops and other low-end devices to benefit from powerful desktop GPUs. Thunderbolt 5 supports PCIe 4.0 connections, although some PCIe 5.0 devices might exceed its bandwidth.

Power delivery is another area that sees a significant improvement. Thunderbolt 5 can deliver up to 240W to certain devices, compared to the previous standard's 140W, enabling faster charging.

What's more, Thunderbolt 5 is backward compatible with Thunderbolt 4, Thunderbolt 3, USB4, and USB3. Intel anticipates that gamers and content creators will be the earliest adopters, with Thunderbolt 5 devices expected to appear over the next few years, followed by workstation users.

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I wish they'd put displayport or thunderbolt on TVs so we can have 8k120 displays. I know you can't run games at 8k120 but I'm in the market for another display. I want something I can grow into and I want 8k120 for desktop use, not gaming. I've gotten 7 years out of my 4k120 display but it has a line stuck pixels. Still, 8k120 input is mandatory if I'm going to spend 5k or be stuck with something for nearly a decade.
 
The next gen of eGPU enclosures is gonna be sweet. I hope we get some genuinely compact ones this time around. I really like the visiontek model but its port placement is atrocious.
 
The next gen of eGPU enclosures is gonna be sweet. I hope we get some genuinely compact ones this time around. I really like the visiontek model but its port placement is atrocious.
It is the same bandwidth as 4 lanes of PCI-E Gen4, so while better than Thunderbolt 4 (which is effectively 4 lanes of PCI-E Gen3) it is probably going to bottleneck any GPU beyond Radeon 6600/3060 territory, particularly low VRAM GPUs. Still better than integrated graphics if that is all you have.
 
Finally can use the true bandwidth for eGPU. Very interesting to see some test with an eGPU

eGPU - in this case is and external GPU enclosure hooked up to say a Mac with a thunderbolt cable -
Just save anyone else looking it up like I did
 
It is the same bandwidth as 4 lanes of PCI-E Gen4, so while better than Thunderbolt 4 (which is effectively 4 lanes of PCI-E Gen3) it is probably going to bottleneck any GPU beyond Radeon 6600/3060 territory, particularly low VRAM GPUs. Still better than integrated graphics if that is all you have.
6 lanes actually. You get bi directional support with 5, so the downstream can go to 120Gbps.

TB4 became an issue with the 3000 series limiting performance, but they still performed decently, I predict that TB5 will be within 5-7% of desktops in GPU performance. Now, if the mobile CPU can keep up, that is the REAL question.
 
Ah yes. More hardware for the waste dump and more hardware to temp us all into buying something that is not needed.
 
And it will likely continue to be just as buggy as all previous iterations. I swear ever since thunderbolt we have so many issues with docking stations reconnecting USB, displays, and multi-monitor configuration issues... Intel needs to improve on their firmware and drivers. The concept is fantastic, the implementation is glitchy.
 
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