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U.S. House rejects measure to stop NSA phone surveillance program

By Jesse · 13 replies
Jul 25, 2013
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  1. The U.S. House rejected an effort to end the National Security Agency’s collection of Americans’ phone records on Wednesday night following an intensive but brief debate concerning the balance between individual’s rights to privacy and government efforts to stop terrorism,...

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  2. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,169   +3,261

    They are so naive thinking the can stop every attack, when they spend their time enticing the next round. Similar to a group of kids throwing rocks at everyone to protect themselves. The rock throwing will only work so long, and someone will get tired of the inconvenience of flying rocks. It doesn't take high intelligence, to know that what they are doing is attracting trouble.
  3. spencer

    spencer TS Addict Posts: 202   +22

    Controlled politician SCUM....your NWO will fail.
    jackal2687 likes this.
  4. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,514   +2,308

    Well, like it or not, you'll have to get over your outrage and get used to the idea of PRISM.

    Did any of you really think the US Government was going to let Edward Snowden dictate its policies?
    MilwaukeeMike likes this.
  5. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 2,425   +112

    What's good for our country!
  6. tekman42

    tekman42 TS Enthusiast Posts: 28   +8

    Eggzactly! Not in this Century...or the next.
  7. jackal2687

    jackal2687 TS Enthusiast Posts: 85   +12

    I think that ultimately this is a good sign of progress. I hope to see this program dismantled and terminated long before I willingly give up my rights that I fought for to begin with.
  8. THanks to huge lobbying. Money always rules. Rep = Dem --> always. No illusion here.
  9. I wish they had voted to overturn the blanket phone surveillance program and went to a more targeted program. When you treat everyone as a potential criminal/terrorist you have already lost. The good news is at least this time it was done in the light of day and not in some secret dark corner. We now can have discussions and we the people can vote with more knowledge about these issues.
  10. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,839   +1,183

    We assume every split is supposed to be along party lines, but in this case it's people who have access to classified information against people who don't. When the ones with access to the information are in favor of it and the ones without access are against doesn't that at least make you wonder if more would be in favor if they had access to the information?

    This vote was a good thing even though it was struck down. Now the country has a list of everyone who is for and against this program. Now when election time comes around we can vote accordingly.
    cliffordcooley likes this.
  11. I'm not american, just a regular dude from Chile and I have a question....

    correct me if I'm wrong but......aren't you americans the guys who have a constitution that allows you to be ARMED TO THE TEETH in your houses in case the government ever tries to **** with the people and take too much power in their hands or something like that?

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  12. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 1,525   +514

    It may seem like that is the obvious thing to do, however, most "enforcement agencies" in the US have paramilitary teams that are far more armed and dangerous than probably almost all US citizens. IMHO, any such attempt at armed overthrow of the government would likely fail due to this fact. By enforcement agencies, I mean police, immigration, EPA, FBI - you name one, they probably have a paramilitary team, I. e., a S.W.A.T. team that is armed to the teeth with items previously only available to the US military.

    There are people in the US that are getting very concerned that this has gone too far. Take, for instance, the Tibetan Monks who accidentally overstayed their US visas and were promptly raided by one of these paramilitary teams in full gear, or a 92-year old female who was "accidentally" killed by another such team.
  13. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,839   +1,183

    In other countries the people who revolt against the govt are the ones who have nothing to lose... the poor and desperate. In America, the poor gets all they have FROM the govt. Every few years a new politician comes along who promises more and more free stuff to the citizens. Who exactly is going to revolt?
  14. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,169   +3,261

    Good point! A concept of which I had never considered.
    What is sickening is those who do nothing are cared for more than those who do work. I have actually heard people make the statement, "Why would I want to work?".

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