US military deploys low-cost "Lucas" drone built from reverse-engineered Iranian tech

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In context: As the US military wages its campaign against Iran, a new kind of American weapon is quietly dominating the skies: a low-cost, reverse-engineered drone called Lucas that is reshaping how the Pentagon approaches modern warfare. Built not by defense contractors or Silicon Valley startups but by the military itself, the FLM-136 "Lucas" has become a symbol of an internal transformation, one that prioritizes speed, affordability, and adaptability over the decades-old model of slow-moving, high-cost weapons development.

Senior defense officials told The Wall Street Journal that the autonomous attack drones have been used in strikes against Iranian military and IRGC targets, including weapons facilities, manufacturing sites, and air-defense nodes. They said this contributed to an 83% decline in Iranian drone attacks during the early days of the conflict.

The drones, described by one former senior defense official as "the Toyota Corolla of drones," were designed to be cheap and plentiful.

Lucas, which stands for low-cost unmanned combat attack system, costs between $10,000 and $55,000 per unit – roughly on par with the Iranian models they are based on. By comparison, Tomahawk cruise missiles used in the same conflict cost at least $2 million each.

Lucas is technically modest but purpose-built for attrition warfare: a one-way, long-range loitering munition with a composite delta-style airframe roughly three meters long, a rear pusher propeller, and a small gasoline engine tuned for efficiency rather than speed.

Its range is 512 miles, with an endurance of six hours, a top speed of 63 mph, and a warhead weighing around 20 to 40 pounds – enough for precision strikes on air-defense radars, depots, and infrastructure, while remaining cheap enough to deploy at scale.

"The Defense Department is committed to scaling cost-effective autonomous solutions for the joint force and Lucas continues to be a prime example," a Pentagon spokesman said.

The drone's origins trace back to the Biden administration, when a small Defense Department team began reverse-engineering an Iranian Shahed drone recovered from Ukraine. It marked the first known time in around half a century that the US military had reverse-engineered foreign military technology for its own use – a tactic last applied to a Soviet-made pontoon bridge, former defense officials said.

Michael Horowitz, a former senior Pentagon official who helped lead the development effort, said the project filled a glaring gap. "The issue was the US was spending nothing, zero dollars, on that kind of system," Horowitz, who is now at the Council on Foreign Relations, told The WSJ.

Lucas was initially part of a Biden-era initiative to field thousands of autonomous weapons by August 2024. Though still a mock-up at the time, it was selected over more mature systems. Its inclusion was controversial, former military officials said, but ultimately reflected a growing recognition that the Pentagon's traditional procurement system could not keep pace with emerging threats.

Because the government owns Lucas's intellectual property, the Defense Department has turned to a network of smaller manufacturers, similar to the shipbuilding model used during World War II, to produce drones on demand.

SpektreWorks and Integration Innovation are among the contractors tapped to build the drones. A total of five manufacturers have been selected, each set up to produce about 300 drones a month, a former senior defense official familiar with the plans said.

The Marine Corps placed an early order for around 6,000 drones intended for the Indo-Pacific, but the outbreak of the Iran conflict redirected those units to US Central Command, where they saw their first combat in February.

The Trump administration has enacted sweeping reforms in defense procurement, making it easier for the military to quickly buy weapons and emphasize commercial technology to modernize the US arsenal. In particular, a decision by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to rescind long-held requirements processes for acquiring technology made the rapid deployment of Lucas possible, current and former defense officials said.

Still, other changes will take longer to move through the Pentagon's bureaucracy, and it will take time to reorient America to a new way of fighting wars.

While Lucas has been a success against Iran's degraded air defenses, that isn't a guarantee it will be a battlefield star in more complex environments, said Jack De Santis, an electronic warfare expert who fought in the war in Ukraine and is now working with the US government. In the Middle East, there is no meaningful jamming of GPS, which can cause drones to crash or fly off course, as military officials expect in a conflict with China.

"Every technology gets defeated at some point," he said.

There is also still a worrisome lack of cheap US counterdrone technology, which has allowed Iranian-backed militias to continue using small drones to menace US military bases in the Middle East. The small number of unmanned surface vessels in the region are still years away from being the autonomous fighting machines their manufacturers have promised, military officials said.

The absence of a broader supply of modern, cheap US systems in the Iran war has served as a wake-up call. "We're not ready," said Julie Bush, co-founder of defense-tech firm Valinor Enterprises and a former Palantir executive. "The government doesn't have what it needs at the scale that they need it."

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This reporting is all over the map. We used them at the beginning of the war, then future tense about selecting companies to build them soon, then we had them, then 6000 were ordered but we don’t know how many were made so far.

Ultimately our lack of defense against these weapons is the primary issue, but this article raised more questions than it answered about our version.
 
This reporting is all over the map. We used them at the beginning of the war, then future tense about selecting companies to build them soon, then we had them, then 6000 were ordered but we don’t know how many were made so far.

Ultimately our lack of defense against these weapons is the primary issue, but this article raised more questions than it answered about our version.
They need to have a word with mr. Zelensky. He seems to have cheap and effective ways to deal with drones.
 
If Iran was so good with these things, why the regime lost its air defense, air force and navy in a month?

And how do we actually know this Lucas thing is "built from reverse-engineered Iranian tech"???
The fact an Iranian drone was reverse engineered, which I guess is a standard procedure for any acquired military tech, does not mean it was copied.

The whole article is quite illogical.
 
They need to have a word with mr. Zelensky. He seems to have cheap and effective ways to deal with drones.
Hardly. Russian drone attacks are currently responsible for three times as many casualties in Ukraine as all missiles, artillery, tank, rifles, and other weapons combined. The same is true of Ukrainian drone attacks on Russian forces.

Seems no one has a good solution yet .. except perhaps for Israel's Iron Beam.
 
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If Iran was so good with these things, why the regime lost its air defense, air force and navy in a month?

And how do we actually know this Lucas thing is "built from reverse-engineered Iranian tech"???
The fact an Iranian drone was reverse engineered, which I guess is a standard procedure for any acquired military tech, does not mean it was copied.

The whole article is quite illogical.

-Because they're not intended to defend those assets?

It's like asking "if the US military is so good, why is Iran still able to project power into the strait of hormuz and across the mid east?"

Cause our tools are not built for cheap drone interception.
 
Didn't Iran reverse engineer their drones from a malfunctioned US drone that hit the ground mostly intact?
 
-Because they're not intended to defend those assets?

It's like asking "if the US military is so good, why is Iran still able to project power into the strait of hormuz and across the mid east?"

Cause our tools are not built for cheap drone interception.
Well, 'project power' is quite an exaggeration of what Iran is still able to do.
In fact I don't think we can talk about 'Iran' doing something because the regime has no complete control anymore, it's more of a separate groups of lunatics holding different areas by killing everyone who disagrees, and none of them seems to care too much about the baby-ayatolah. The fact most of the country supports not the regime but its foreign adversary is quite telling.
 
Well, 'project power' is quite an exaggeration of what Iran is still able to do.
In fact I don't think we can talk about 'Iran' doing something because the regime has no complete control anymore, it's more of a separate groups of lunatics holding different areas by killing everyone who disagrees, and none of them seems to care too much about the baby-ayatolah. The fact most of the country supports not the regime but its foreign adversary is quite telling.

- I mean there are some pretty big assumptions there. Iran continues to dictate who crosses the strait of hormuz and who doesn't. Iran continues to reach out and touch its neighbors with drones and missiles. Iran manages to shoot down US warplanes despite its defenses being "obliterated" or whatever.

Honestly Iran is looking a lot better than a lot of people thought it would. Its no tin pot dictatorship, its managed to decentralize its C&C with remarkable efficacy all things considered.

Iran is also likely no different than the US in that there is at least a 30% bedrock support for the regime from conservative country folk there. Iran is not Tehran, just like Egypt wasn't Cairo after the Arab Spring.

No one is going to deny that the US/Israel haven't taken their pound of flesh, there is no traditional military on Earth that could withstand that kind of tag team, but I think most people can look at the mission creep, victory is always 2 weeks away, and Trump has gone from telling the protesters "help is on the way" to "we're going to bomb them back to the stone age" and have enough awareness of events to know that things have gone horribly wrong for us.
 
If Iran was so good with these things, why the regime lost its air defense, air force and navy in a month?

That’s the Trumpet narrative of counting on the wrong metric to fight this war. He is repeating the exact mistake as with Vietnam War.

Side note: I’ve re-designated Trump as Trumpet. => Because he likes to toot his own horn.

Firstly, the Iranian strategy is to hunker down in underground facilities they’ve built to absorb America’s “Shock and Awe”.

That’s where most of their stuff is…underground.

The stuff they let American military destroy is to deliberately mislead and draw in American forces into Iranian territory.

Then, it’s to grind down America in a prolonged attritional war.

Force America to bring boots to the ground where Iran has the home ground advantage of rugged mountains. (US Veterans know it’s worse than Afghanistan).

Iranian officials outright tell the American public they’ve been waiting for boots on the ground; but no one in the Trumpet Administration is listening!

One of the tactics is to let America spend its long range weapons stocks; which forces US aircraft to fly into Iranian airspace to conduct missions.

And it has worked…F-15E and A-10 shot down. With one aircrew parachuted in Iran and not yet rescued (at the time of this post).

Everyone (America’s opponents) has figured out the current American military is designed to be a quick sledgehammer with lots of firepower at the start.

But its weakness is that it won’t be able to withstand a long, drawn out fight as the American people are weary of “forever wars” of the past. (Anyone interested in another 5+ year war?)

Not to mention the US military has expended approx 25% to 30% of their weapons stocks (THAAD, Patriot, JASSM, etc) in a month…you can tell by (1) the behaviour of the Command in the Middle East is cannibalising stocks from Pacific Command, (2) the number of new weapons contracts being announced to replenish inventories, (3) and the Trumpet himself is going to be asking for a massive increase in military spending from US Congress.

This is asymmetric warfare.

Iran can’t beat America head-to-head, but it can bleed America dry in terms of politics back home, social media photos (downed F-15E and A-10, destroyed E-3 Sentry, etc), gas prices, weapons stocks, and international reputation.

How has Iran hit back?

Thrown old missile stocks and lots of Shahed drones at US and Israeli defence systems until US/Israel runs critically low on missile interceptors. (As well as destroy key long-range radars; reducing missile warning times from 10 to 15 minutes, down to 1 to 2 minutes).

Then Iran uses improved missiles and drones after grinding down their opponent’s air defence.

It has worked…the recent destruction of a critical air asset (E-3 Sentry AWACS plane) and damage to air tanker fleet (KC-135) at the Saudi Arabian airbase via missile strike.

The real measure of this war is which side is more effective at a strategic level.

Counting the number of stuff you blow up and not being able to change minds of your opponent is not a winning strategy.

The Trumpet has no strategy. He is “winging it”…and that is no way to win a war against an opponent willing to die for their beliefs.

Given the way US bases have been attacked in the Middle East, it doesn’t seem like anyone in US military has learned from the Ukrainian-Russian war.

And how do we actually know this Lucas thing is "built from reverse-engineered Iranian tech"???

How else are you supposed to understand your opponent’s technology and counter it?

The fact an Iranian drone was reverse engineered, which I guess is a standard procedure for any acquired military tech, does not mean it was copied.

Everyone copied the chassis or airframe.

The difference is avionics, fuel tank size, and warhead changes.

The American version is more expensive and shorter range. They’ve basically made a mini-Tomahawk missile with a small warhead. (Looks like they lean towards more precision).

Whereas the original is a cheap solution with a scooter engine and civilian electronics…The point is to build lots of them cheaply and throw them at your opponent as part of a bigger strategy, alongside ballistic and hypersonic missiles. (Grind down opponent’s air defence interceptor stocks, so that they become defenceless.)

The improved Shahed cuts its engine off before impact…So you won’t hear it coming down like the older models seen on social media.

No one sits still when it comes to military tech. Endless back and forth of countering each other’s technology.
 
If Iran was so good with these things, why the regime lost its air defense, air force and navy in a month?.

Actually, per Col. Douglas Macgregor, Iran had a tiny Air Force that amounted to nothing, their Navy was 6 frigates and a couple of diesel submarines. That’s it. For the US to boast about having destroyed the Iranian Navy, AF, etc is ludicrous because there really wasn’t anything serious to destroy. This whole circus charade is making America and the Jews leading them by the throat, a complete joke.
 
...most people can look at the mission creep, victory is always 2 weeks away.
Why lie? Trump said from Day 1 the mission should take no more than 6 weeks. It's been less than five so far.

For comparison, when Obama sent US troops into Syria in 2014 (something Trump has yet to do in Iran) he told Americans it was only for "a few weeks". Those troops are still there now.

Iran continues to dictate who crosses the strait of hormuz and who doesn't.
Iran continues to scare unarmed civilian ships, you mean. And even that wouldn't be happening, were it not for the loss of the Gerald Ford. No one expects a laundry fire to knock out an aircraft carrier while on the way to patrol the Strait, but unexpected events do happen.

Iran continues to reach out and touch its neighbors with drones and missiles.
Drone attacks are down more than 80% and missile attacks more than 90% from the start of the war. Clearly, Iran's arsenals are running dry.

Honestly Iran is looking a lot better than a lot of people thought it would. Its no tin pot dictatorship, its managed to decentralize its C&C with remarkable efficacy all things considered.
You're using terms you don't understand. There is no coordinated command-and-control required for a three-man team to launch a drone or fire a mortar at a speedboat. For more than a decade after WW2 ended, a few Japanese soldiers roamed the jungles of the Philippines, firing rifles at any Americans they saw. Was that evidence of a "decentralized C&C"?

Iran is also likely no different than the US
That's a rather Freudian slip on your part, sir. Why not move to Tehran for a few months and see for yourself just what the difference actually is?
 
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Why lie? Trump said from Day 1 the mission should take no more than 6 weeks. It's been less than five so far.
- Why lie? Trump started by saying 4 weeks and has never really had a solid bead or clear communication on the war's time frame since.


In subsequent days, Trump was quoted as floating various timelines, including "Always been about a four-week process," "four weeks -- or less," "four to five weeks," "whatever it takes," "no time limits" and "short-term excursion."

For comparison, when Obama sent US troops into Syria in 2014 (something Trump has yet to do in Iran) he told Americans it was only for "a few weeks". Those troops are still there now.
- Back that one up. US did a one time attempted hostage rescue in 2014 but I cannot find any evidence of Obama sending US troops into Syria, nor are there any US troops in Syria at this time. Why Lie?

Iran continues to scare unarmed civilian ships, you mean. And even that wouldn't be happening, were it not for the loss of the Gerald Ford. No one expects a laundry fire to knock out an aircraft carrier while on the way to patrol the Strait, but unexpected events do happen.
- Yes, you can use whatever diminutive language you choose to use, but ships are not transiting the Hormuz strait without either paying Iran or gifting them something (refusing to allow US planes to stage at their airbases for example).

Drone attacks are down more than 80% and missile attacks more than 90% from the start of the war. Clearly, Iran's arsenals are running dry.
- Indeed, Iran has been pretty clever about exhausting interceptor stockpiles in Israel and in other gulf states. The tempo has slowed, but Iran is keeping a lower but steady rate of drone attacks up on its neighbors. I think its pretty obvious Iran thinks it can wait out the US in this war and is in no rush to 'blow its load" so to speak, especially with the US and Israel breathing down it's neck.

You're using terms you don't understand. There is no coordinated command-and-control required for a three-man team to launch a drone or fire a mortar at a speedboat. For more than a decade after WW2 ended, a few Japanese soldiers roamed the jungles of the Philippines, firing rifles at any Americans they saw. Was that evidence of a "decentralized C&C"?
- Right, that's what decentralization is. I'm sure my gas prices will go down any minute now because Filippinos in a jungle or whatever your point is here.

That's a rather Freudian slip on your part, sir. Why not move to Tehran for a few months and see for yourself just what the difference actually is?
- You're smarter than this, c'mon. Trying to juke around my point that oppressive governments have more ground level support than we see on the outside looking in with "why don't you move there" level taunts. I have a lot of respect for your intelligence, don't make me lose it.
 
- I mean there are some pretty big assumptions there. Iran continues to dictate who crosses the strait of hormuz and who doesn't. Iran continues to reach out and touch its neighbors with drones and missiles. Iran manages to shoot down US warplanes despite its defenses being "obliterated" or whatever.

Honestly Iran is looking a lot better than a lot of people thought it would. Its no tin pot dictatorship, its managed to decentralize its C&C with remarkable efficacy all things considered.

Iran is also likely no different than the US in that there is at least a 30% bedrock support for the regime from conservative country folk there. Iran is not Tehran, just like Egypt wasn't Cairo after the Arab Spring.

No one is going to deny that the US/Israel haven't taken their pound of flesh, there is no traditional military on Earth that could withstand that kind of tag team, but I think most people can look at the mission creep, victory is always 2 weeks away, and Trump has gone from telling the protesters "help is on the way" to "we're going to bomb them back to the stone age" and have enough awareness of events to know that things have gone horribly wrong for us.
There is no 'Iran' anymore to dictate anything. There's no coherent command and control structure, the baby-ayatollah has no authority or respect, it's groups acting autonomously. Of course they can still launch the residue of missiles and drones not destroyed yet, and are clearly still a threat to cargo ships and civilians(now practically only within Iran), but that's obviously going to an end.
 
- Why lie? Trump started by saying 4 weeks
Well, you walked back your "two weeks" claim pretty fast, didn't you?

In subsequent days, Trump was quoted as floating various timelines, including "Always been about a four-week process," "four weeks -- or less," "four to five weeks," "whatever it takes," "no time limits" and "short-term excursion."
Note your anti-Trump reporter removed the context on all those statements. Here's an even more anti-Trump site, forced to tell the truth.

"At the outset of the conflict, the Trump administration said the war would last four to six weeks."


In war, being entirly predictable is the best thing you can do ... for your enemy. Biden clearly communicating that the US "was through and never returning" is how the Taliban was able to take all Afghanistan in just 10 days.

- Back that one up. US did a one time attempted hostage rescue in 2014 but I cannot find any evidence of Obama sending US troops into Syria, nor are there any US troops in Syria at this time. Why Lie?
Your Googling skills failed you. My statements are correct.

"...On 22 September 2014, the United States officially intervened in the Syrian civil war....On 19 December 2024, after the fall of the Assad regime, the Pentagon revealed that there were around 2,000 US troops in Syria...In February 2026, U.S. President Donald Trump ordered the complete withdrawal of American forces from Syria within the next two months...."

 
Well, you walked back your "two weeks" claim pretty fast, didn't you?
-Lol fair

Note your anti-Trump reporter removed the context on all those statements. Here's an even more anti-Trump site, forced to tell the truth.

"At the outset of the conflict, the Trump administration said the war would last four to six weeks."

- Yes, the issue with that is some people were saying four weeks, others six, others eight, and others still that there is no actual defined end date so I guess the "administration" was saying four to six (to eight to undefined).

Well, we'll see here in the next couple weeks.
In war, being entirly predictable is the best thing you can do ... for your enemy. Biden clearly communicating that the US "was through and never returning" is how the Taliban was able to take all Afghanistan in just 10 days.
- Unfortunately in our Republic us plebs want to know how and why our taxes and lives are being spent. What's the timeline, what's the cost, what are the goals. Doublely so in a war of choice.

The Taliban was able to take Afghanistan quickly because they were a more motivated and coordinated fighting force that had been fighting without the aid of US air power or troops for 20 years and has gotten really good at it. The ANA was a joke that was just there to provide warm bodies and hopefully a meat shield for US forces.

Trump's negotiating with them while excluding the Afghan government or Biden promising the American people he'd actually end a war instead of starting a new one had little to do with it.

Your Googling skills failed you. My statements are correct.

"...On 22 September 2014, the United States officially intervened in the Syrian civil war....On 19 December 2024, after the fall of the Assad regime, the Pentagon revealed that there were around 2,000 US troops in Syria...In February 2026, U.S. President Donald Trump ordered the complete withdrawal of American forces from Syria within the next two months...."

- Yep, my Google fu was weak here. Guess we'll find out how many special forces troops Trump has in Iran right now some time in 2036.
 
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There is no 'Iran' anymore to dictate anything. There's no coherent command and control structure, the baby-ayatollah has no authority or respect, it's groups acting autonomously. Of course they can still launch the residue of missiles and drones not destroyed yet, and are clearly still a threat to cargo ships and civilians(now practically only within Iran), but that's obviously going to an end.

-I think you are underplaying the threat Iran still represents in the region. I don't think there is anything to be gained by underestimating the enemy here.

In order to shoot down US warplanes (F15 specifically), Iran still has to have some heavy air defense systems operational. Simple MANPADS do not have the ability to hit something like that.

Iran also just struck Amazon Web Services in Bahrain and Dubai a couple days ago, so they are still very capable of hitting targets within their neighboring countries.

More importantly, those countries seem to have either exhausted their interceptor stockpile or have concentrated them around government/civilian infrastructure(power plants, desalination plants, etc) leaving other areas vulnerable.

It's going to be critical, if the US is truly ending the war in 1-2 weeks as @Endymio referenced above, that we do not leave Iran in a better position than they were in before Trump/Netanyahoo's war started.

A better position means: Govt in place looking like it can fight off the US and Israel (huge reputational win), protestors shelve their ambitions to replace the clerics due to increased popularity of government, Iran implementing a toll/patronage system on the strait, Iran retains their nuclear material and is now highly motivated to weaponize it, neighboring states begin arms race with the realization that the US is incapable of defending them.
 
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If Iran was so good with these things, why the regime lost its air defense, air force and navy in a month?

And how do we actually know this Lucas thing is "built from reverse-engineered Iranian tech"???
The fact an Iranian drone was reverse engineered, which I guess is a standard procedure for any acquired military tech, does not mean it was copied.

The whole article is quite illogical.

Oh the amount of copium in your post. Where do I begin.

1. Just in the last 2 days we have lost more aircraft than the whole Iraq war.
2. During the rescue operation, 2 aircrafts and 2 heli's were shot down...yes shot down. No way all 4 of those airborne assets had the same issue of being "stuck" in the sand. Especially the Heli's that don't need a runway in the first place. They probably sustained enemy fire and couldn't fly anymore and had to be destroyed. Drones were lost in this operation as well.
3. 2 A10's shot down.
4. F15 shot down
5. F35 shot out of service.
6. AWACS destroyed.
7. Multiple drones shot down
8. Multiple fuel tanker aircrafts lost.
9. Patriot batteries shot down in the past 24 hrs by a country that has no army lol.
10. Himars launchers destroyed.

Remember Afghanistan, Vietnam had no air force or navy to begin with and still we got our *** handed to us.

Iran Parliament passed the toll law recently and they started collecting the tax. That shows they have more than enough control on the strait. Why do you think the navy won't brute force their way to open the strait?

 
Oh the amount of copium in your post. Where do I begin. 1. Just in the last 2 days we have lost more aircraft than the whole Iraq war.
You could start by not lying. During the 1991 Gulf War against Iraq, the Coalition lost a total of 75 aircraft (63 US, 12 Allied), including 52 fixed-wing aircraft and 23 helicopters.

3. 2 A10's shot down.
One A-10.

5. F35 shot out of service.
Nope. You've been listening to Iranian state propaganda again ... the video they showed has already been debunked, especially since the footage shown didn't match the fuselage of an F-35.

7. Multiple drones shot down
You realize what drones are, right? There's videos of drones in the Russian-Ukraine war being taken out with pistol fire and ball bats. One soldier even claims to have taken down a drone with a butterfly net.

9. Patriot batteries shot down in the past 24 hrs by a country that has no army lol.
Who said Iran has no army? They no longer have a navy or air force -- the army is all that's left.

Furthermore, the fact that we can extract a US airman alive from the middle of central Iran -- surrounded by the entire Iranian army -- shows just how little they control their own territory.

Why do you think the navy won't brute force their way to open the strait?
As soon as we have a carrier in place, the Strait will fully reopen. We had planned the Gerald Ford for that role, but an unexpected laundry fire turned it around in the Red Sea.

In order to shoot down US warplanes (F15 specifically), Iran still has to have some heavy air defense systems operational. Simple MANPADS do not have the ability to hit something like that.
While I generally agree with your other points, the fact remains that the Iranian Misagh-3 is man portable, and can take down an F-15, particularly when its operating in a CAS role.
 
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If Iran was so good with these things, why the regime lost its air defense, air force and navy in a month?

And how do we actually know this Lucas thing is "built from reverse-engineered Iranian tech"???
The fact an Iranian drone was reverse engineered, which I guess is a standard procedure for any acquired military tech, does not mean it was copied.

The whole article is quite illogical.

The US copied the concept of a cheap drone from Iran. Note that Iran came up with the idea, and it has utterly transformed modern warfare.

I wouldn't be so quick to claim that Iran lost its air defense, air force and navy in a month. The US has been hitting Iranian decoys. Serbia did the same thing during Clinton's 80 day carpet bombing of Serbia.
 
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