US strikes unprecedented deal: Nvidia and AMD to give 15% of China AI chip sales to Washington

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What just happened? For the first time, the US government will take a direct share of tech export revenue under a deal requiring Nvidia and AMD to give Washington 15% of sales from AI chips sold in China. This agreement marks an unprecedented approach in the oversight and regulation of sensitive technologies, making the US government a direct beneficiary of chip sales to the world's second-largest economy.

The unusual arrangement was set as a condition for securing export licenses needed to sell to Chinese customers, according to sources that spoke to the Financial Times. It encompasses the Nvidia H20 chip and AMD's MI308 chip, both crucial for AI applications. The sources said that the decision followed weeks of negotiation and high-level meetings, notably including Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang's encounter with President Donald Trump at the White House in early August. The actual issuance of export licenses began soon after those talks.

While there have been cases of the US government leveraging domestic investments or imposing tariffs to bring manufacturing jobs and revenue home, experts say no American company has previously paid a fixed share of revenues to secure export permissions. "This seeming quid pro quo is unprecedented from an export control perspective," Jacob Feldgoise of the Center for Security and Emerging Technology told Bloomberg. Bernstein analysts told the New York Times that this deal could generate over $2 billion for the US government by year's end, with Nvidia expected to sell more than $15 billion worth of its H20 chip in China and AMD about $800 million.

The genesis of the deal stems from escalating tensions over AI technology security. Sales of high-performance chips to China were abruptly banned by the Trump administration in April, citing the potential for advanced AI technologies to bolster China's military and economic edge. Yet, after successive lobbying efforts by Nvidia and a reassessment of competitive risks – particularly the prospect of Chinese companies like Huawei cornering the AI hardware market – the administration reversed its ban for these specific chips but imposed the revenue-sharing condition. Nvidia argued that continued access to the Chinese market was essential for maintaining the US' global technology leadership.

Not everyone sees the deal favorably. National security experts have raised concerns that monetizing export controls could incentivize further pressure from Beijing to relax US restrictions on other sensitive technologies. "This is an own goal and will incentivize the Chinese to up their game and pressure the administration for more concessions," said Liza Tobin, a former China director at the National Security Council. A bipartisan group of ex-officials and specialists wrote to the administration calling the decision "a strategic misstep that endangers the United States' economic and military edge in artificial intelligence."

For its part, Nvidia responded to inquiries stating, "We follow rules the US government sets for our participation in worldwide markets." The company added that "While we haven't shipped H20 to China for months, we hope export control rules will let America compete in China and worldwide. America cannot repeat 5G and lose telecommunication leadership. America's AI tech stack can be the world's standard if we race." AMD did not comment on the matter.

The ramifications for the market remain uncertain. On one hand, the arrangement opens a lucrative channel for major US chip manufacturers in China, albeit at a significant cost. On the other hand, it raises questions about the future role of the government in regulating and profiting from strategic high-tech exports.

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It isn’t based on any law—laws must be neutral and generally applicable—so it’s illegal.
An agreement made under pressure is also invalid.
The government can’t monetize restrictions; if they’re necessary, they should be applied, but if they’re not, they shouldn’t be imposed.
It’s a bit embarrassing for the government; they seem to misunderstand their role.
Imagine a judge setting a bid for the decision—wouldn’t that be embarrassing?
 
Another step to make corporations government depending and realising government goals. Rising nationalism is ongoing, autarky is the goal, other nations (mexican mostly) are unworthy, what other key components are missing from fascism there? Still not as bad as russia, but direction is kinda similar.
 
It isn’t based on any law—laws must be neutral and generally applicable—so it’s illegal.
An agreement made under pressure is also invalid.
The government can’t monetize restrictions; if they’re necessary, they should be applied, but if they’re not, they shouldn’t be imposed.
It’s a bit embarrassing for the government; they seem to misunderstand their role.
Imagine a judge setting a bid for the decision—wouldn’t that be embarrassing?
constitution article 1 section 9 clause 5... Pretty clear you can't tax exports
 
Trump is selling the US’s national security for a racket out of corporate profits. So if NVIDIA wants to make an obscene profit by arming a state which MAGA calls an “arch enemy”, China more precisely, why not take a cool 15% kickback out of the proceedings?

In Trump’s playbook, this is called a win-win, much like the luxury Boeing 747 received as a “gift” from Qatar, which will be refurbished for a billion dollars out of US taxpayers (regular folk, not the uber-rich) money and then keep for himself. Or the crypto he is hocking left, right, and centre.

Only this time, American military assets and American lives will be targeted by sophisticated Chinese AI trained on and using American chips. 15% is the value of your lives, my dear MAGAs.
 
Me personally, the Supreme court has shown complete allegiance to Trump, so there is a 99.9% likelihood this will stick. I never would have imagined that the US would complete slide into an authoritarian, mob-boss like country, ever, let alone just 7 months. I shutter to think what the US will look like in 3.5 years from now.

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The U.S. can condition or deny export licenses under ECRA for national security, but forcing Nvidia and AMD to give the government 15% of China AI-chip sales is on shaky ground. It likely violates the Constitution’s Export Clause (no taxes/duties on exports), exceeds ECRA’s bar on license-related fees, and can’t be justified under IEEPA or user-fee rules. Courts have struck down similar ad valorem “fees” as unconstitutional taxes, so this move could be overturned if challenged.

It might stick if courts accept the government’s framing that the 15% is a license condition, not a tax—essentially payment for the privilege of exporting sensitive AI chips to China under strict oversight. ECRA gives broad discretion to set export-license terms for national security, and the administration could argue the Export Clause only bars congressional taxes/duties, not executive-set conditions tied to regulated privileges.
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What slays me is all the uproar when Trump does something that the other side has been doing for years like it's the end of the world and humanity. Why do you think there haven't been any natural gas electrical plants built? How did all of these expensive wind farms pop up that cannot be economically justified? Why do you think every car maker in the world decided to build EV's en mass and loose money on every single one (Tesla excepted, but he's hated now)?

The bottom line is that every single administration in history used incentives, taxes, rules, regulations, etc. to craft the policy they want. Let's not forget, both of these GPUs are heavily gimped, so we're still withholding tech from China. Add to that that if Huawei was truly in a position to run neck and neck with the US, do you think China would be buying these by the boat load?

No matter what the experts say, here's the bottom line: Jensen doesn't care a wit about how much AI power China has, he wants to line his own pockets. AMD and Nvidia had a huge stock of AI chips that nobody but China would want due to their being gimped (if you're going to buy GPUs for AI, you might as well buy the fully working chips). If Nvida and AMD are desperate to offload these GPUs, why not get something out of the deal for the country, since the only reason you're doing that is to improve Nvida and AMD's balance sheets.

P.S. If China had made GPUs that were 60% of what they could buy from the U.S., we'd never sell another gimped CPU to China again.
 
I don't get it, how does paying the US government 15% of sales to sell to Chyna advance any US interests?

If Chyna shouldn't have the tech... then AMD/NV shouldn't get the export license, yeah?

Our usual MAGA posters are pretty quiet, the marching orders from Fox News are still downloading I guess...
 
What slays me is all the uproar when Trump does something that the other side has been doing for years like it's the end of the world and humanity. .
Actually what is potentially likely to “slay” you is a Chinese drone whose sophisticated AI targeting was trained on the American chips Trump’s Administration gleefully collected 15% on.
The rest of your rant will be the silence surrounding the debris.
 
constitution article 1 section 9 clause 5... Pretty clear you can't tax exports
"No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State." They'll just claim the exports originate in the country of manufacture, which is not the US. That loophole was impossible to foresee 250 years ago.

Ironically, some components will be "exported" from being made in China to being used in China.
 
Trump is selling the US’s national security for a racket out of corporate profits. So if NVIDIA wants to make an obscene profit by arming a state which MAGA calls an “arch enemy”, China more precisely, why not take a cool 15% kickback out of the proceedings?

In Trump’s playbook, this is called a win-win, much like the luxury Boeing 747 received as a “gift” from Qatar, which will be refurbished for a billion dollars out of US taxpayers (regular folk, not the uber-rich) money and then keep for himself. Or the crypto he is hocking left, right, and centre.

Only this time, American military assets and American lives will be targeted by sophisticated Chinese AI trained on and using American chips. 15% is the value of your lives, my dear MAGAs.
He's not keeping the plane, mark.
 
I don't get it, how does paying the US government 15% of sales to sell to Chyna advance any US interests?

If Chyna shouldn't have the tech... then AMD/NV shouldn't get the export license, yeah?

Our usual MAGA posters are pretty quiet, the marching orders from Fox News are still downloading I guess...

The MAGA are easily startled, but they will soon be back. And in greater numbers.
 
I can't believe that companies keep putting up with this Extortion. The more of them that fall to this crap, the more it emboldens this creep and administration.

Furthermore, National Security has become a prize to sell and something to just throw out the window for political ends. The minions of this administration don't seem to know Jack Schitt about national security from the way they keep throwing classified information out the window for anyone to read.

Stupid people trashing everything everything in sight and the US as well.
 
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