Viacom: YouTube ruling will "completely destroy" copyright

By Emil ยท 24 replies
Dec 5, 2010
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  1. Media giant Viacom has filed its appeal of a June ruling in favor of Google's YouTube, the latest move in the companies' ongoing battle over alleged copyright infringement. Viacom wants to overturn a previous ruling that the company feels let YouTube off the hook for hosting thousands of pirated video clips of some of its popular programs, according to Wired.

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  2. KG363

    KG363 TS Guru Posts: 515   +9

    Viacom needs to grow up
  3. vangrat

    vangrat TS Rookie Posts: 223

    So, constantly removing videos that are said to be pirated, booting people from its site when they continue to upload copyrighted material, and putting disclaimers on the site that say they do not tolerate pirated material is not enough? This sounds more to me like Viacom is trying to dig for gold, rather then doing any real good. I am surprised they havn't tried to go after Hulu...ffs.
  4. ramonsterns

    ramonsterns TS Enthusiast Posts: 744   +12

    Companies like these do no one any good, even themselves.
  5. Mikymjr

    Mikymjr TS Booster Posts: 124   +9

    I'm not against copyrighting material, but this is getting ridiculous
  6. bakape

    bakape TS Enthusiast Posts: 123

    Does no one else find this amusing?
  7. Cota

    Cota TS Enthusiast Posts: 513   +8

  8. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,319   +1,407

    If it wasn't for youtube, I probably wouldn't listen to any of that music. I have a personal boycott on copyrighted material. Next thing you know, they will be going after radio stations. because, if you think about it, a request is kinda like a search on youtube. Oh well, All new TV shoes suck, all new music sucks and all new games suck...and they want me to PAY for that crap? sorry, I will listen to it for free on youtube or not at all.
  9. Benny26

    Benny26 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,535   +51


    It's that old line again...."It's nothing personal, it's just business".
  10. aj_the_kidd

    aj_the_kidd TS Rookie Posts: 555

    if something is worth it then yeah, i'll be legitimate and pay for it, but if its not then sorry but its 2010 i can get buy other means.
  11. matrix86

    matrix86 TS Guru Posts: 843   +38

    Completely different. Radio stations buy the music they play. And they can play it as much as they want. Youtube doesn't pay for the music it's users put up on the site. So, two completely different things.

    Dear Viacomm...quit your bitchin!!!
  12. PanicX

    PanicX TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 669

    I think Viacom is being taken for a ride by their legal team. There is ZERO chance of winning a lawsuit for copyright infringement when Viacom themselves uploaded their copyrighted material to Youtube for marketing purposes.

    If Viacom seriously believes that Youtube is damaging their profits, their only recourse will be to back a lawsuit by a competitor that hasn't willfully given their material to Youtube. This way a precedent can be set for them to try an leverage a lawsuit against, which I still dont think they could win, but likely could force a settlement with Google.
  13. @matrix86

    Depends where your from, radio here is a free advertising tool, artists can get their music heard into public conciousness and radio stations get to play it and receive income from advertisements. They certainly dont pay for the music. Infact some record labels pay radio to have a song on a certain ammount of times in a day.

    Im pretty sure thats how it works in america too. Correct me if im wrong.
  14. OMG^^

    If that aint the truth..! I pay for good albums, whatever their cost. These are the same companies that try to shove Britney Spears down our throat..

    I'm from Detroit, use to see jack & meg @ teh golden. None of these artist like pseudo labals. Look @ pRINCE. His whole life was strife with labal companies and not musik..!

    You Tube is a channel that allows us to view what ever anyone else want us to see.... with ragard.
  15. tonylukac

    tonylukac TS Evangelist Posts: 1,374   +69

    I don't know if it's still true, but radio stations used to pay royalties to artists each time they played a song.
  16. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,319   +1,407

    I understand how the radio stations work, but that is how ridiculous some of this stuff is getting. What's stopping people from recording songs off the radios...aside from the horrible sound on analog...

    crappy products is another reason why people pirate stuff, California Girls IS NOT worth paying for...maybe that's why they have to pay the stations?
  17. aj_the_kidd

    aj_the_kidd TS Rookie Posts: 555

    Wouldn't be surprised if that's true, i know the guy who created the "happy birthday" song gets paid every time its played
  18. seefizzle

    seefizzle TS Evangelist Posts: 337   +199

  19. +1

    We spent 25 years wiring the world together. Now we tell people don't share. The big corporations that have neverpaid a dollar of taxes in their life have big brother out chasing people down.

    I don't know WTF is wrong with this country.
  20. Google is the NSA. YouTube is worse than pirates downloading themselves some content. For YouTube, you don't need .torrents or a client to download with, no wait times before the download completes. You can find most things on YouTube and it's express piracy right to your front door. They should get punished like the rest of the pirates or punish no one. Contradictory system. Google takes over the majority of everything it embarks on, search engines, internet video, browsing, the phone industry, soon TV and then computer operating systems. They always need an interface for you to connect with to be able to scan your email, browsing habits, video you watch and upload to get worthwhile information for the NSA to play with etc. Anyone who trusts Google is ignorant.
  21. PanicX

    PanicX TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 669

    Sometimes I really wish anonymous guest posting wasn't allowed so i could mock the source of this foolishness directly.
  22. Haha, yeah right, Panic, cause naming yourself PanicX isn't annoymous at all. Did your mother give you that name? I was hoping Blizzard (world of warcraft and Starcraft 2 creator) was going to follow through and require real names to post on their forums. they backed off, and we can still use the names we think of that make us sound cool.

    Know what surprised me though... not only to we like to hide behind names on forums, not only to rappers prefer cooler names than Sean Combs and Marshal Mathers, but last time I bowled (i'm from milwaukee, hey) I saw that people put up fake names on the high scores list. MacDaddy had a 290 game a month back, cool huh? Maybe it's the power we perceive from only knowing the secret identity ourselves, maybe it's a superhero syndrome.

    now what's this viacom mumbo jumbo about again?

  23. aj_the_kidd

    aj_the_kidd TS Rookie Posts: 555

    @Guest - Wow, dude i dont know wow Google screwed you over but take a chill pill. Its 2010 and soon to be 2011, if Viacom doesn't adapt to the new way media is being distributed its gonna be left behind. Chill dude its all good
  24. PanicX

    PanicX TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 669

    Oh hey, that's funny. You mock me directly using my pseudonym. What was the point of my post again?
    I'm guessing you don't understand the concept of a pseudonym. Pseudonyms are really neat, because you don't need to know a person's real identity to learn about their point of view or opinions. You can build a reputation with a pseudonym and can keep your personal life separate.

    You see, if you registered an account, everyone would then see when a post was made directly by you (even though we don't know who your identity). And depending on whether they want to subjugate themselves to mindless drivel or not, they could choose to skip your post and move on to one that might have some real thought put into it.
  25. Uvindu

    Uvindu TS Booster Posts: 120

    Just wanted to point out that you spelt billion wrong. You wrote billon :)

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