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Walmart tells staff to remove signs showing violence, including video game ads

By midian182 · 48 replies
Aug 9, 2019
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  1. In the wake of last weekend’s mass shootings, one of which took place at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, politicians including President Trump once again claimed that violent video games are “partly” to blame, despite the numerous studies showing no link between the medium and aggression.

    First reported by Vice, Walmart, which experienced another shooting at a Mississippi store a week before the El Paso incident, circulated a memo to staff asking them to review any signing or displays than contain violent images or aggressive behavior.

    “Remove from the salesfloor or turn off these items immediately,” reads the letter.

    Additionally, the memo asks staff to "turn off or unplug any video game display consoles that show a demo of violent games, specifically PlayStation and Xbox units." It adds that these demo units will be updated next week.

    "Cancel any events promoting combat style or third-person shooter games that may be scheduled in Electronics.”

    “Verify that no movies depicting violence are playing Electronics."

    Journalist Kenneth Shepard posted a copy of the letter on Twitter, which you can see in its entirety below.

    While Walmart is in a hurry to hide any signs of virtual guns, the nation’s largest retailer has confirmed it isn’t going to stop selling the real weapons. Company CEO Doug McMillon wrote in a Facebook post that it would “work to understand the many important issues that arise from El Paso and Southaven, as well as those that have been raised in the broader national discussion around gun violence,” but spokesman Randy Hargrove told USA Today that "there’s been no change in policy" regarding gun sales.

    Following the damning comments against video games, the Entertainment Software Association responded by refuting claims of their link to violent behaviour.

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  2. amstech

    amstech IT Overlord Posts: 2,270   +1,479

    Damn videogames causing all this trouble. Thank god war and shooting others wasn't a thing until violent FPS videogames released 18 seconds ago.
    MaXtor, Lew Zealand, Hexic and 5 others like this.
  3. elementalSG

    elementalSG TS Addict Posts: 120   +109

    “While Walmart is in a hurry to hide any signs of virtual guns, the nation’s largest retailer has confirmed it isn’t going to stop selling the real weapons.“

    Video games are too violent, but real guns aren’t? Talk about oxymoronic policies...
    Gypsygib, learninmypc and lumbeeman like this.
  4. Stormbreaker

    Stormbreaker TS Enthusiast

    No constitutional protection for poor video games.
    Gypsygib likes this.
  5. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,932   +2,251

    I believe videogames are protected under the first amendment
  6. gusticles41

    gusticles41 TS Evangelist Posts: 433   +509


    We're barking up the wrong tree, here.

    But hey, let's waste more time chasing phantom catalysts. After some more mass shootings maybe we'll change focus.
    Evernessince and lumbeeman like this.

    IAMTHESTIG TS Evangelist Posts: 1,735   +825

    I'm sure that psychopath probably just walked in casually with his rifle strapped over his shoulder, then saw an advertisement for Call of Duty and then all the sudden went mental and started shooting people. Yeah, that makes sense.

    Really? That's just as asinine as the "Gun Free Zone" signs businesses put up. I'm sure all the crazies see that and think "Oh dang, guess I can't kill anyone here today with my gun... better go somewhere else".

    This isn't going to fix crap Walmart... it's not your problem to fix anyhow, it is society, families, parents, and friends who need to change from breeding a culture of hate and violence. If they need to remove media access from someone who has mental problems and will be violent then that is their duty to society.
  8. loki1944

    loki1944 TS Addict Posts: 178   +120

    Background checked employees with CCW would be better.

    IAMTHESTIG TS Evangelist Posts: 1,735   +825

    Actually if you think about it, it does make sense. Games using virtual violence to accomplish a virtual goal provides stimulation for the person playing the game. Therefor the picture of a game with a man firing a gun at a living being portrays violence. Guns don't portray any violence on their own (or even a picture of just a gun), it is just a mechanical device and what the person chooses to do with or how a picture or video shows the usage of the device in violent manners is where the violence comes from. All down to people... people, can be very violent.
  10. elementalSG

    elementalSG TS Addict Posts: 120   +109

    Of course...and posters with students reading and studying hard suddenly makes any one who passes by have this undying desire to become incredibly studious...and just like anyone who looks at a gun doesn't ever have any thoughts whatsoever on how it will be used when they see one in person.

    *face palm*

    (yes, I'm being very, very sarcastic)
  11. GreyFoxx

    GreyFoxx TS Addict Posts: 102   +69

    Muricaaaaaa, F*** Yeah!!
  12. J spot

    J spot TS Maniac Posts: 228   +147

    This is common sense, it's not about video games. They just had a mass shooting in one of their stores, of course they're going to take down ANY images of violence.
    Slappy McPhee likes this.
  13. lexster

    lexster TS Guru Posts: 531   +261

    Walmart special-snowflaking. What a shock...
    wiyosaya likes this.
  14. GreyFoxx

    GreyFoxx TS Addict Posts: 102   +69

    Soooo them continuing to sell guns is a sign of peace??
  15. Trillionsin

    Trillionsin TS Evangelist Posts: 1,822   +419

    After all, this is our Great and Most Knowledgeable of Presidents who put the order through.... he's done his own scientific research and collected all his own data to prove this is what needs to be done, the rest is all "fake-news," and cannot be trusted, only his own sources and thoughts are what matter.

    ....hmmmmmmmmmmmm..... :facepalm:
    gusticles41, lumbeeman and wiyosaya like this.
  16. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 4,118   +2,406

    This is not necessarily true. Using a gun takes training. Having a CCW does not automatically make anyone a superhero sharpshooter.

    Personally, I think employees given cans of pepper spray would be far more effective and significantly less lethal to bystanders when they miss their intended target given that a crowded area is not the best place to be firing a gun - for anyone, even someone who is trained. Some rounds will go through their target and thus present the chance of a secondary impact and injury or death. In either case, if anyone but the shooter gets hurt or killed, a lawsuit will follow.

    In point of fact, in a non-related equally stressful situation such as a bear attack, chances of getting out with only minor injuries are almost 100% when using pepper spray. Using a gun, its 50-50 that anyone doing so will even survive. https://www.outsideonline.com/1899301/shoot-or-spray-best-way-stop-charging-bear

    In some cases, people with enough courage to stand up against the shooter - unarmed - have effectively taken out shooters - https://thegrio.com/2018/04/22/naked-gunman-kills-four-at-a-waffle-house-in-nashville/
    lumbeeman likes this.
  17. p51d007

    p51d007 TS Evangelist Posts: 2,004   +1,271

    I don't think it was so much that we didn't have mass shootings etc, but, times have changed.
    In the "olden days" (pre computer), kids were raised with manners, respect, honor etc for fear of their
    parents taking them out behind the woodshed, and giving their bottoms a good tanning. Now, if you
    discipline your child, it's called "abuse". Kids are like small pets. If you don't train them, they will grow
    up to be wild animals.
    Couple that, with so called violent video games and some people who's brains aren't wired right, don't
    have a separation between reality and fantasy, thus, you end up with some older teenagers/young
    adults that think it would be "cool" to shoot up something like on a video game.
    amstech, IAMTHESTIG and lexster like this.
  18. gusticles41

    gusticles41 TS Evangelist Posts: 433   +509

    Couple all of that with incredibly easy access to Assault weapons and you get 9 people dead in 32 seconds. And 27 injured.

    wiyosaya likes this.
  19. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 4,118   +2,406

    People always assume its families, parents, and friends that could stop this. Yes, I agree - if there are signs of it before hand and those same ones inform authorities such as this - https://www.ajc.com/news/national/a...thwarts-mass-shooting/foYMaMioyt5GOpI21GlWhM/

    From the reports, this wacko was on an extremist web site. I have no idea whether anyone reported him, so given the nature of the web site, they might have considered it "normal" behavior and, therefore, failed to report him. As I see it, it literally take everyone's awareness to be alter to this kind of thing, but his behavior might have been considered "normal" to those with similarly sick minds.

    And what if there are no signs and thus nothing to report?

    IMO, the problem goes deeper to society and our economic system and will not be so easy to fix.
    gusticles41 likes this.
  20. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 4,118   +2,406

    And I am sure there are people that will groan at this, but according to a report mentioned in an article surrounding Bill Clinton's call to reinstate the assault weapon ban, the number of mass shootings dropped when those weapons were banned, then went back up after the ban expired.
    gusticles41 likes this.
  21. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 4,118   +2,406

    Honestly, I doubt that any shooter would think its cool to shoot something up like a video game.

    I bet if you were to look at the psychology of shooters of any age, what it really amounts to is a cry for help. Some, like this one https://www.ajc.com/news/national/a...thwarts-mass-shooting/foYMaMioyt5GOpI21GlWhM/ who was stopped before hand, wanted to commit suicide by cop. If that is not a call for help, I don't know what is.
    elementalSG likes this.
  22. Polycount

    Polycount TS Evangelist Posts: 1,826   +402

    I'm not even taking a side on the gun control debate, but holy balogney, that bit about "Walmart is in a hurry to remove digital gun sales, but won't stop selling real guns" is simply hilarious to me. Laugh-out-loud funny.
    wiyosaya likes this.
  23. Evernessince

    Evernessince TS Evangelist Posts: 4,080   +3,614

    Yep. Studies show that in fact the average mass shooter spent less time playing video games then your regular joe. Studies were all pretty conclusive that video games do not play much if at all of an impact on whether a person becomes a shooter.

    This chart alone says it all.

    treetops, elementalSG and wiyosaya like this.
  24. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 4,118   +2,406

    Who cares about facts when you can make up alternative ones to fit your narrative and pretend the real world is backward? ;)
  25. J spot

    J spot TS Maniac Posts: 228   +147

    I don't know, did they stop selling video games? Or did they simply temporarily removed any images that are inappropriate considering what happened in one of their stores.

    If the mass shooting is such big news that everyone who visit Walmart has the mass shooting in their head, as a wise business owner do you think it would be reasonable to prevent them from potentially seeing something like this

    Of course not to that extreme.

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