YouTube bans anti-vaccine misinformation on its platform

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Duke9192

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I had the stinkin virus,it was pretty bad, I was sick for a week, but I'm completely better now. No vaccine. So for me, I didn't need the vaccine. My symptoms were moderate enough that I knew to stay home from work, rather than push through it and spread it. Had I been vaccinated, would the symptoms have been so mild that I would have continued working/mingling? Delta, echo, foxtrot, it will be every year now. It's big money, and bigger control.
 

Rayneofpayne

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The more poignant question is this and should come from BOTH sides of the arguments: Who decides what is and isn't correct/incorrect information? Deciding what you want to be presented to your viewers by cherry-picking information and claiming it as true/false to sway the beliefs of people is the bigger issue.
Exactly and as the CDC proved it's incompetence spreading and promoting "wives tales", "misnomers" and incorrect information with no actual properly calculated data extrapolated from proper experimentation and observation. They censured several doctors around the country that were stating they were clinically wrong in promoting bad advise and so called facts for political referendum.
 

Duke9192

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What actions have I taken, exactly? And what am I being an apologist over?

The main cause of COVID deaths is... wait for it... COVID. There are factors that can contribute to a negative outcome during infection, but it's still the instigator.

Treat the virus first.
Well, there is a cure for viruses. I mean, the flu has been completely eradicated. To think, those misinforming doctors of old, that used to say there was no cure for the common cold virus. I mean, we can just vaccinate it all away, and there wont be a delta, zeta, alpha variant the following year. Am I right?
 

Rayneofpayne

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Say 'misinformation' to yourself a few times, and suddenly realize that it cannot exist as a fact, only an opinion.
The earth was flat, the sun revolved around the earth, and Three's Company was the number one show on television.

lol.
Actually people knew the earth wasn't flat, that is a misnomer in history.
There is an opinion
There are facts
Period the end, if you spout opinions out your mouth in contradiction to reality... You need to see a psychologist people that do that have social disorders and need to seek help it's a sign of schizophrenia, as well as a few other disorders.

Seriously it's up to you to read and look up if information is from a credible source, and a drawn conclusion from proper methodology. Don't be a ***** that just believes someone because the have MD and are a doctor or claim to be one.
 

nodfor

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I will post (again) my favorite quote from a PC game (Alpha Centauri)

"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."
 

Jack Deth

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I remember a time when media, television, professors, mentors, and friends were all advocating to question authority.

Now we are told to not only stop questioning it, but to "...shut up and take shot. Wait...take two. No...that's not right. Take three! Do what we say because if you don't, you'll be labeled a crazy right winger. And we know you'd rather shut off your critical thinking skills than be called that!"

And if you dare question, prepare to be canceled. Or lose your job. Or be kicked off our service. We can't do that you say? Who's going to stop us? The government? Ha ha ha! We OWN the government. Who do you think got into bed with us this last so-called election to secure their power grab? They make laws to benefit us. Because they are bought and paid for. We are the puppet masters.

Now, stop thinking and get back to pretending you live in a two-party system. And keep fighting with each other over politics. We love that!

PS, Hey Aussies hope you enjoy us having full LEGAL access to all your data!

Oh and Don't Be Evil (*giggles*)!"


 

Squid Surprise

Posts: 4,537   +3,907
I remember a time when media, television, professors, mentors, and friends were all advocating to question authority.

Now we are told to not only stop questioning it, but to "...shut up and take shot. Wait...take two. No...that's not right. Take three! Do what we say because if you don't, you'll be labeled a crazy right winger. And we know you'd rather shut off your critical thinking skills than be called that!"

And if you dare question, prepare to be canceled. Or lose your job. Or be kicked off our service. We can't do that you say? Who's going to stop us? The government? Ha ha ha! We OWN the government. Who do you think got into bed with us this last so-called election to secure their power grab? They make laws to benefit us. Because they are bought and paid for. We are the puppet masters.

Now, stop thinking and get back to pretending you live in a two-party system. And keep fighting with each other over politics. We love that!

PS, Hey Aussies hope you enjoy us having full LEGAL access to all your data!

Oh and Don't Be Evil (*giggles*)!"
Feel free to question authority. But QUESTION it - don’t simply oppose it because it’s the authority... that’s what children with ODD do...
Instead, do some REAL research (not some guy’s wife’s blog who claims he invented mRNA vaccines) and come to the very real conclusion that... wait for it... vaccines save lives!

There is ZERO evidence that vaccines are more harmful to you than Covid. ZERO.

The few side effects that various vaccines might have are all either milder than Covid, or less likely to occur than being stung to death by bees...

People love to spout “censorship” as something that communist governments do (or did)...

Well, misinformation was something that another famous government used... try the Nazis and their propaganda...

Unfortunately, people are, on average, pretty dumb.... feeding them harmful lies can and DOES cost lives.
 

Bl00dyMinded

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Well, there is a cure for viruses. I mean, the flu has been completely eradicated. To think, those misinforming doctors of old, that used to say there was no cure for the common cold virus. I mean, we can just vaccinate it all away, and there wont be a delta, zeta, alpha variant the following year. Am I right?
You are wrong. There is no cure... Only treatment. If the flu was cured, we wouldn't have a flu shot yearly. Now the Covid will be also a yearly shot aka the flu. Viruses change strings all the time, so in reality they will never really be a cure but a treatment to "try" to stop the virus. And while money is to be made and pumped Covid aint going anywhere anytime soon. Cold weather is coming up. Get ready to hear the North and NorthEast of the US how covid is spiking up again. I wonder why, hmmm cold weather aka flu.

I had covid last year June, was fine... just headache for a week and did lose taste and smell. But after a week everything was good and I was working and working out like nothing again. I did get the J&J shot this year Feb only because I was traveling to Spain. But if it wasn't for the requirement I wouldn't have gotten the vaccine at all. I had done blood work on Feb and I still had antibodies from when I had covid. Also, I work in a hospital daily so what more antibodies do you want.
 

Adi6293

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How does YouTube know what is misinformation and what isn’t? They aren’t doctors. And from what I can gather even doctors don’t agree on everything. Right now in the UK some bodies say children should have the vaccine and others say it does more harm than good. Also we have a death toll from the vaccine but we have no idea what it is, can we have this? Or would this be banned under “misinformation” as well as it is on other platforms.

I say let people hang their dirty opinions out to dry. Besides, action taken to silence others is more significant than what those others are generally saying. People talk rubbish about everything all the time. But efforts from major tech corporations to censor individuals certain pricks my ears up.

I didn't think there would be a comment of yours that I would agree with : D
 

Darth Shiv

Posts: 2,242   +810
On no, where will the readers of techspot go for information now?

Weird how this site has such a right wing base

YouTube should have done this sooner. Don't need to allow the dumbest people to have the loudest voices.
Yes the problem stems from lack of education on statistics. People don't have any concept of proportion. Like the tit for tat conflation of problems.

Recent example I heard was "Hillary emails" being compared to "GWBush lying about WMDs". BOTH are "problems". One is FAR FAR FAR FAR worse (massive war crime costing trillions and 100s of thousands of INNOCENT lives).

Fact of the matter is vaccines are NOT perfect but they are MASSIVELY better than the problem they are aimed at solving. The risks are NOT anywhere NEAR comparable. People on YouTube are NOT qualified to give hysterical anti-vax rants and flood people with disproportionate crap that endangers millions. If you have concerns, speak to your GP. YouTube is NOT the place for anti-vax hysteria and good riddance.
 

Darth Shiv

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How does YouTube know what is misinformation and what isn’t? They aren’t doctors. And from what I can gather even doctors don’t agree on everything. Right now in the UK some bodies say children should have the vaccine and others say it does more harm than good. Also we have a death toll from the vaccine but we have no idea what it is, can we have this? Or would this be banned under “misinformation” as well as it is on other platforms.
Vax deaths are public information in MANY countries around the world. It's not hard to validate the quantity of vax related deaths next to covid risk and deaths. This is the thing... vax deaths are not remotely close to the problem. Just because you don't trust the US Govt being fully transparent... well many other Govts aren't nearly as corrupt. Vaccination is bipartisan across the globe. You honestly think there is a great conspiracy there? Everyone coordinated? There's absolutely no chance.

The science is settled on vax being far better than covid.

As for kids and the UK bodies, we have ***** "epidemiologists" here in Australia too. One who gets platformed said there is absolutely no chance covid is airborne. He is an imbecile and has been called out and refuted. He continues to push economic agendas ahead of his supposed qualifications.

In the current waves, we are seeing HUGE amounts of kids infected and passing infection onto families as well as kids in ICUs in significant quantities. There's absolutely no doubt children are a problem vector for infection especially now a lot of the elderly are double vaccinated. In Victoria, about 32% of all infection is 19 years and under. About 18% below 12 iirc. Is vaccination the answer? The medical authorities are doing the relevant certification testing right now. US due to complete in October from what I've heard. Australia similar.
 

Gmachine

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On no, where will the readers of techspot go for information now?

Weird how this site has such a right wing base

YouTube should have done this sooner. Don't need to allow the dumbest people to have the loudest voices.
I agree, but unfortunately they won't ban feminazis, SJWs and antifa crowd. I can't believe they don't ban people saying we should call children "theybies"and not boy or girl. They do way more harm to society.
 

scavengerspc

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I agree, but unfortunately they won't ban feminazis, SJWs and antifa crowd.
Holy crap, and I though Rush Limbaugh had passed, but here he is word for word. Very well programmed and not a shred of an independent thought process.

I can't believe they don't ban people saying we should call children "theybies"and not boy or girl. They do way more harm to society.
More harm than "medical advice" that causes people to die?
What a sad lot that has fallen on America.
 
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cliffordcooley

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The truth can not be silenced in a free country. We no longer live in a free country. We are not smart enough to realize. We have been divided intentionally to keep us from fighting for our freedom.
 

captaincranky

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Are the heads of YouTube all of a sudden medical experts? Have you ever got a second opinion on medical advice that a doctor has given you? So what your saying is no one should get a second opinion, that what the heads of YouTube say stands.

I feel sorry for you buddy
Why is it the newcomers who always put up crap like this?

I'm far from a "progressive", but I do understand that smallpox was wiped from the face of the face of the earth by ...(you guessed it)...vaccination. Kidz today don't have to endure those nasty "childhood diseases", that I did, (measles, mumps, & chicken pox), because of.... (wait for it)....vaccination.

Fast forward to today. All of a sudden, "vaccines don't work", and besides, "there's microchips in them" so the "government can track you. Why exactly does the government have to track you with a vaccine? Why should it spend the, money, time and effort to track you, when all it has to do is join Facebook and "friend you"? Or better still, just toss off a subpoena to Google, Amazon, or Twitter, and they can find out what music you listen to, what radical groups you're a part of,, and another to Uber and "door dash", to find out what you had for dinner last night.

If that's not enough, there's always that cell phone you simply can't put down, and its nasty GPI.

So, every body has an opinion, but nobody has any intention of backing it up with money or actions to support it.

For example, the "right to life" set, has absolutely no intention of adopting or supporting these babies they demand should be born.

And the anti-vaxxer set, has absolutely no intention of picking up the tab on the hospital bills they cause, by spreading their nonsense.

So what I suggest, is for them, "to be men about it", and volunteer to pick up the hospital bills of everyone that they talked out of being vaccinated, and pay them. It's called, "having the courage of your convictions".

BTW, the US Constitution only gives the power of not limiting "freedom of speech", to the federal government.A private institution can do whatever the f**k they damned well please..Which includes limiting or permitting (**) what someone can say on their platform

(**) Were "permitting" not the case, the advertising industry would be in deep do-do.
 
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kiwigraeme

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YT is not banning fair criticism or questions about effectiveness - they are banning BS like the vaccine is tracking you , it's altering your DNA ( well it probably does on a tiny tiny scale - like everything else eg sunlight, any food - but your body is pretty adept at handling mutations ).

Well at least we have Fox news - thanks to Rupert whose sole purpose to bring us news so good - that it's meant to be taken only for entertainment purposes in the court of law .
Or even better Breitbart - where you will never see an apologise for a story ( unless to stave off a court case ) , a correction when story is shown to be wrong .( At best the story will suddenly disappear, often not - they leave a known lie up ).
You will not see the complete picture etc etc
These are all tells that Breitbart is not fake media - only fake media need to apologise , or correct stories , or publish negative stories about "their' side .
Only fake media have internal consistency .
I'm sure the Wapo , NYT, BBC all push agendas , done poor research, hurried stories, made mistakes etc . Push nationalistic BS - they eat babies , we have God on our side .
But crikey some of the BS on the Net remind me that Nigerian scams need to be poorly written , so only the most silly will bite . When most of the rhetoric is based on bad faith/dogma and rotten foundations . When you continuedly get disappointed when this super super smart Dr or Scientist, Lawyer is going to blow this scam wide open - yet after 30 of these stories - not one has done anything - and the person is debunked .
Oh the lawyer is going to go nuclear on the 2020 election . In court - do you have any evidence of election fraud ? No NONE your honour - doesn't matter already made heaps in donations by the Rubes already your Honour
 

Puiu

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Are the heads of YouTube all of a sudden medical experts? Have you ever got a second opinion on medical advice that a doctor has given you? So what your saying is no one should get a second opinion, that what the heads of YouTube say stands.

I feel sorry for you buddy
You don't need to be a medical expert to know when someone is stupid or saying something stupid. Youtube should have done this a year ago, but it's better late than never.
 
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