YouTube bans anti-vaccine misinformation on its platform

[cliffordcooley]

It's a public platform not a private platform. Mislabeling the platform is the problem here.

 

[Crinkles]

It's a public platform not a private platform. Mislabeling the platform is the problem here.

Social media platforms are private companies, they're free to censor what people post on their websites >>>> as they see fit.

 

[monte]

How does YouTube know what the truth is? What if they are believing misinformation? Are they the arbiter of truth?

 

[captaincranky]

It's a public platform not a private platform. Mislabeling the platform is the problem here.

Let's try and be objective, shall we?

The biggest complaint against these ("supposed"), "public platforms", is that they make money by selling OUR private information.

If they were "co-ops", such as you suggest, then each and everyone of us who use those platforms, should get a check periodically, for our share of the profits.

I'll check my mailbox again today, in an effort to be sure I'm not "talking out of turn". But based on my past experience, I believe all I'll find is bills, and piles of junk mail. (Which in large part, is just more advertising, with an abundance of begging for "worthy causes", thrown in for good measure.).

Coming at it from a different angle. we are free to develop and maintain our own belief systems, and spread them among like minded individuals.

Victor Hugo is reported to have said, "there's no stopping an idea whose time has come". The option to make that so, isn't the responsibility of YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, or any other private corporation.

 

[monte]

YT is not banning fair criticism or questions about effectiveness - they are banning BS like the vaccine is tracking you , it's altering your DNA ( well it probably does on a tiny tiny scale - like everything else eg sunlight, any food - but your body is pretty adept at handling mutations ).

Well at least we have Fox news - thanks to Rupert whose sole purpose to bring us news so good - that it's meant to be taken only for entertainment purposes in the court of law .
Or even better Breitbart - where you will never see an apologise for a story ( unless to stave off a court case ) , a correction when story is shown to be wrong .( At best the story will suddenly disappear, often not - they leave a known lie up ).
You will not see the complete picture etc etc
These are all tells that Breitbart is not fake media - only fake media need to apologise , or correct stories , or publish negative stories about "their' side .
Only fake media have internal consistency .
I'm sure the Wapo , NYT, BBC all push agendas , done poor research, hurried stories, made mistakes etc . Push nationalistic BS - they eat babies , we have God on our side .
But crikey some of the BS on the Net remind me that Nigerian scams need to be poorly written , so only the most silly will bite . When most of the rhetoric is based on bad faith/dogma and rotten foundations . When you continuedly get disappointed when this super super smart Dr or Scientist, Lawyer is going to blow this scam wide open - yet after 30 of these stories - not one has done anything - and the person is debunked .
Oh the lawyer is going to go nuclear on the 2020 election . In court - do you have any evidence of election fraud ? No NONE your honour - doesn't matter already made heaps in donations by the Rubes already your Honour

Why do you believe what you are saying? Could you be misled?

 

[monte]

No, they just have the common sense to tell a recognized medical expert from a kook with a political ax to grind. Letting people who follow the latter have a platform means having more hospitals overflowing with COVID-19 patients. It's as simple as that.

common sense is not so common

 

[captaincranky]

How does YouTube know what the truth is? What if they are believing misinformation? Are they the arbiter of truth?

Who is then, "you"

common sense is not so common

And here you are, living proof.

In 1905 SCOTUS ruled that vaccination for smallpox could be mandatory. Here's some light reading for you:

Vaccine Development, Testing, and Regulation

Systems for developing and testing vaccines emerged after the 19th century, when many vaccines began to be used. The current system for developing, testing, and regulating vaccines developed during the 20th century as the groups involved standardized their procedures and regulations.

www.historyofvaccines.org

 

[sac39507]

How about the misinformation from the dummy in chief that it prevents you from getting Covid? I bet that isn't being banned.

 

[scavengerspc]

How about the misinformation from the dummy in chief that it prevents you from getting Covid?

Such as?

Nothing but isolation "prevents" COVID. But there are many things that vastly improve the odds to avoid it.

 

[captaincranky]

How about the misinformation from the dummy in chief that it prevents you from getting Covid? I bet that isn't being banned.

Which "dummy in chief" are you referring to? Be careful how you answer..

I've always taken IQ scores as a practical measure of someone's capacity to learn, as measured by what they have already learned.

But, one thing they do make clear, is that someone who scores an 80 IQ, is both unfit and unqualified to judge the intelligence of someone who scored a 140

 

[sac39507]

Which "dummy in chief" are you referring to? Be careful how you answer..

I've always taken IQ scores as a practical measure of someone's capacity to learn, as measured by what they have already learned.

But, one thing they do make clear, is that someone who scores an 80 IQ, is both unfit and unqualified to judge the intelligence of someone who scored a 140

Duh, what other "in chief" is there? Be careful how you answer...

IQ doesn't equate intelligence. Someone with an IQ of 140 doesn't necessarily have the same level of common sense as someone with an IQ of 80.

 

[captaincranky]

Such as?

Nothing but isolation "prevents" COVID. But there are many things that vastly improve the odds to avoid it.

My primary approach to self preservation is to avoid all contact with the species that I loath, Homo sapiens.

Now if a willing ,slender, Caucasian female, over the age of 18 were to appear at my door, I might make an exception.

 

[scavengerspc]

IQ doesn't equate intelligence

Man, I like your style. No, really. I do.

When you come along and say "IQ doesn't equate intelligence" even though IQ literally stands for "intelligence quotient."

You know, many would brand you a fool. Not me though. I think you are a MAGA genius.

 

[Squid Surprise]

How about the misinformation from the dummy in chief that it prevents you from getting Covid? I bet that isn't being banned.

Please inform us of this misinformation... obviously nothing prevents you from the Covid virus short of being isolated 24/7 forever... but... vaccines are PROVEN to be quite effective at preventing most serious complications due to Covid - most notably, DEATH.

Your CinC is, apparently foolishly, attempting to save lives by telling the population to get vaccinated.

Unfortunately, there is a sizable percentage of the US population that will automatically mistrust and disregard anything the "wrong party" says to do. Kind of reminds me of the ODD 4 years olds I used to teach in kindergarten. I would say "sit down", and they had to stand up... It's understandable in children... kind of frustrating in adults...

Normally, it doesn't really matter - those morons tend to die out and can be ignored by the rest of us... but... pandemics are special cases! Because these people keep the virus alive - spreading it to more people - allowing it to mutate faster and faster... and putting the rest of us at risk.

So please, for the love of whatever you regard as holy, get vaccinated so the rest of us can get back to our regular lives.

 

[captaincranky]

So please, for the love of whatever you regard as holy, get vaccinated so the rest of us can get back to our regular lives.

There's a certain degree of "cognitive dissonance" on your part regarding this statement, as those who believe in a "holy something or other", seem to believe that he, she, or it, will protect them from covid, and any stupid vaccine is completely unnecessary. ..

In other news, I'm seriously hoping Ron DiSantis ((R) FL)), succeeds in killing off his voter base and doesn't get re-elected.

 

[Rayneofpayne]

I see. But we should believe what is said in a fox "news" interview with Mr. Pillow or with Billy Bubba Bovine from "Git'er Done University."

Seriously, check into sources, some of what the CDC and these news sources use as "facts" does not even qualify as proper verifiable sources, let alone medically backed research. Even then I would be careful certain research groups have been flagged as going to far. Look into Karl Schwab and his books when he was the head of UNESCO about using a pandemic and lockdowns as a political tool, it honestly would be funny **** if it wasn't playing out like this.

 

[Rayneofpayne]

I agree, but unfortunately they won't ban feminazis, SJWs and antifa crowd. I can't believe they don't ban people saying we should call children "theybies"and not boy or girl. They do way more harm to society.

Well they are as stupid as the "gooper" crowd..

 

[Rayneofpayne]

Lol, free speech warriors mad at a private platform doing a thing. Cool.

It's basically a public forum on the internet, so, there is that. They do not own the property they rent it and depending on the state.........well let's just say there is a wide debatable interpretation of laws that can be at play, legality is only a measure of contention.

 

[scavengerspc]

Seriously, check into sources, some of what the CDC and these news sources use as "facts" does not even qualify as proper verifiable sources, let alone medically backed research. Even then I would be careful certain research groups have been flagged as going to far. Look into Karl Schwab and his books when he was the head of UNESCO about using a pandemic and lockdowns as a political tool, it honestly would be funny **** if it wasn't playing out like this.

I'm thinking you're talking about Klaus Schwab? He was talking about "war gaming" a pandemic, and he said it about a year before Covid-19. He was making an attempt to prepare, not subvert. And I read The Great Reset post Covid. Are you sure he is the one you want to use an example?

It's basically a public forum on the internet, so, there is that. They do not own the property they rent it and depending on the state.........well let's just say there is a wide debatable interpretation of laws that can be at play, legality is only a measure of contention.

No there isn't. The laws are really quite clear. But I would appreciate even a shred of proof.

 

[Alfatawi Mendel]

You don't get to post your crap on Fox News. Why should YouTube allow you?

 

[wiyosaya]

It's basically a public forum on the internet, so, there is that. They do not own the property they rent it and depending on the state.........well let's just say there is a wide debatable interpretation of laws that can be at play, legality is only a measure of contention.

There's a difference between a forum publicly available on the internet that was set up by a private company and a public forum. See https://www.merriam-webster.com/legal/public forum#:~:text=legal Definition of public forum. : a place,and assembly — see also limited public forum.

Note the key words in the definition - "dedicated by government".

 

[wiyosaya]

Seriously, check into sources, some of what the CDC and these news sources use as "facts" does not even qualify as proper verifiable sources, let alone medically backed research. Even then I would be careful certain research groups have been flagged as going to far. Look into Karl Schwab and his books when he was the head of UNESCO about using a pandemic and lockdowns as a political tool, it honestly would be funny **** if it wasn't playing out like this.

A member of the Q continuum are we?

 

[captaincranky]

A member of the Q continuum are we?

A member of the Qanon continuum are we?

FIXED..! (De nada).

Or was the "anon" supposed to be tacitly implied?

 

[captaincranky]

You know, many would brand you a fool. Not me though. I think you are a MAGA genius.

I would, "switch sides and gain a stroke" here, but muh gad damned pit bull ate muh god damned hat.

 

[Duke9192]

Why is it the newcomers who always put up crap like this?

I'm far from a "progressive", but I do understand that smallpox was wiped from the face of the face of the earth by ...(you guessed it)...vaccination. Kidz today don't have to endure those nasty "childhood diseases", that I did, (measles, mumps, & chicken pox), because of.... (wait for it)....vaccination.

Fast forward to today. All of a sudden, "vaccines don't work", and besides, "there's microchips in them" so the "government can track you. Why exactly does the government have to track you with a vaccine? Why should it spend the, money, time and effort to track you, when all it has to do is join Facebook and "friend you"? Or better still, just toss off a subpoena to Google, Amazon, or Twitter, and they can find out what music you listen to, what radical groups you're a part of,, and another to Uber and "door dash", to find out what you had for dinner last night.

If that's not enough, there's always that cell phone you simply can't put down, and its nasty GPI.

So, every body has an opinion, but nobody has any intention of backing it up with money or actions to support it.

For example, the "right to life" set, has absolutely no intention of adopting or supporting these babies they demand should be born.

And the anti-vaxxer set, has absolutely no intention of picking up the tab on the hospital bills they cause, by spreading their nonsense.

So what I suggest, is for them, "to be men about it", and volunteer to pick up the hospital bills of everyone that they talked out of being vaccinated, and pay them. It's called, "having the courage of your convictions".

BTW, the US Constitution only gives the power of not limiting "freedom of speech", to the federal government.A private institution can do whatever the f**k they damned well please..Which includes limiting or permitting (**) what someone can say on their platform

(**) Were "permitting" not the case, the advertising industry would be in deep do-do.

So many blankets you place on those you disagree with.... Every person is different. I dunno, kinda like an individual. Thank goodness we don't have to abide by your suggested rules. One issue with all of this, has to do with the fact that all of the rules and mandates are actually changing the way we must live our lives. What I see, experience, and what my friends and family have also witnessed is that we each know alot of people who have had the virus. Only one person comes to mind that actually passed away. I had it, no vaccine. If you are afraid, then get your shots and wear your mask, but don't tread on me for living my life to the fullest. It is not possible to vaccinate away this kind of virus. It will change every year, the same as influenza and the common cold. Is that not science?
Delta variant already.