3d acceleration unable to start
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Blind Dragon
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Windows XP pro - 32 or 64 bit?
Blind Dragon
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Make sure the previous drivers you tried are uninstalled -> https://www.techspot.com/drivers/driver/file/information/9395/
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Blind Dragon
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If it doesn't work this time -> I am almost positive you need to update your chipset drivers for your motherboard before installing the drivers for your video card
I removed all previous ATI drivers and even the Catalyst. I can not see any other video drivers.
On my MSI motherboard I updated the Award BIOS and also the NVIDIA nForce System Drivers. There is a so called "Live VGA driver" on the live update application with a numerous updates "for all MSI VGA cards". I did not installed them - however their link is broken and most probably can not be reached.
I set up the drivers from http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/xp/radeonx-xp.html and it still can not install the drivers.
On my MSI motherboard I updated the Award BIOS and also the NVIDIA nForce System Drivers. There is a so called "Live VGA driver" on the live update application with a numerous updates "for all MSI VGA cards". I did not installed them - however their link is broken and most probably can not be reached.
I set up the drivers from http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/xp/radeonx-xp.html and it still can not install the drivers.
Blind Dragon
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Go to start -> run ->type dxdiag
What version of directX do you have?
and the link you posted is the wrong version drivers and will not work with your card -> even if they passed the install you still wouldn't be able to render 3d
What version of directX do you have?
and the link you posted is the wrong version drivers and will not work with your card -> even if they passed the install you still wouldn't be able to render 3d
It works for me now...
I reinstalled the Catalyst 7.10 that I received in the CD with the card. It at least could installed the drivers without error. It was the same with the newest Catalyst as well. The problem with these was that Direct3D did not work (error in step 8... in the dxdiag test, see above). It seems it was a wrong BIOS setting for me. AGP Apperture size was wrong. Now I set it to 256MB and it works. Tomorrow I will make some cross checks, as I made too many changes with drivers and parameters at the same time.
I reinstalled the Catalyst 7.10 that I received in the CD with the card. It at least could installed the drivers without error. It was the same with the newest Catalyst as well. The problem with these was that Direct3D did not work (error in step 8... in the dxdiag test, see above). It seems it was a wrong BIOS setting for me. AGP Apperture size was wrong. Now I set it to 256MB and it works. Tomorrow I will make some cross checks, as I made too many changes with drivers and parameters at the same time.
Blind Dragon
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and you passed the direct3d test now?
Blind Dragon
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When you figure it out can you please post it here for when people find this page on google.
This is the 3rd time I have seen exact problem in 3 days-> HD2600 won't accept the old drivers but direct 3d doesn't work on the newer drivers
This is the 3rd time I have seen exact problem in 3 days-> HD2600 won't accept the old drivers but direct 3d doesn't work on the newer drivers
Symptom:
In a fresh installed PC with ATI Radeon (Sapphire) HD 2600 PRO 512MB AGP card Flight Simulator 2004 and Flight Simulator X is not starting. FS9 silently quits before displaying the main menu screen, FSX displays a black window only. FS9 starts normally in safe mode: fs9.exe -SWREND (software rendering, i.e. not using the cards features).
DirectX diagnostic tool dxdiag.exe Display tab/Direct3D test gives error: "Direct3D 7 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x80004005 (Generic failure)".
Environment:
Sapphire HD2600 PRO 512MB AGP
MSI K7N2 Delta-ILRS AGP motherboard
AMD XP Athlon (Palomino) 2600/2 CPU
1GB 400MHz DDR RAM
Win XP Prof SP2 HU
.Net 1.1, 2.0, 3.0
DirectX 9.0c
Tests
The following drive versions are tested from http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/xp/radeonxprevious-xp.html:
6-12, 7-7, 7-10, 7-11 and the newest one 7-12
Other pages like https://www.techspot.com/drivers/driver/file/information/9395/ seems to forward the same pages during download.
Also the driver set from the card's own CD is tested. It is said to be Catalyst 7.10.
Also latest driver from http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/support/drivers.php is tested.
Results
All driver sets from the ATI page fails. Earlier versionas fail with message:
"Setup did not find a driver compatible with your current hardware or operating system. Setup will now exit."
7-11 fails with:
"Setup was unable to find components that can be installed on your current hardware or software configuration. Please make sure you have the required hardware or software."
7-12 fails with no error message! Does not install any drivers.
The so called 7-10 version on the card's CD detects the card and installs normally!
The driver from Sapphire tech web page also installs normally.
Analysis
It seems that ATI leaves out the RADEON AGP cards from the installs. In the CX_*.inf files the following line is missing:
"ATI RADEON HD 2600 PRO AGP" = ...
This line exists both in the inf file of the CD of the card and in the package from Sapphire Tech.
Comments
I can not recall what had caused the problem for me at the first place. Maybe I immediatelly skipped the CD as I saw it is 7.10 and started with the drivers from the ATI page (recent one 7.12). Or maybe I started with the CD, but it had failed for a reason I can not examine now. Meanwhile I had updated the rather old NVIDIA nForce chipset on my motherboard and I do not want to reverse for the previous one for testing.
The most importatn thing is that for these video cards one should check the http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/support/drivers.php page for new drivers instead of the ATI page. However the driver package is some 234MB here and the Catalyst package is 197MB. This is 10 times bigger than that of the same packages on the ATI page. One should check the reason.
Now I selected the version on the CD that includes all the ATI tools as well in a nice package.
Gabor
In a fresh installed PC with ATI Radeon (Sapphire) HD 2600 PRO 512MB AGP card Flight Simulator 2004 and Flight Simulator X is not starting. FS9 silently quits before displaying the main menu screen, FSX displays a black window only. FS9 starts normally in safe mode: fs9.exe -SWREND (software rendering, i.e. not using the cards features).
DirectX diagnostic tool dxdiag.exe Display tab/Direct3D test gives error: "Direct3D 7 test results: Failure at step 8 (Creating 3D Device): HRESULT = 0x80004005 (Generic failure)".
Environment:
Sapphire HD2600 PRO 512MB AGP
MSI K7N2 Delta-ILRS AGP motherboard
AMD XP Athlon (Palomino) 2600/2 CPU
1GB 400MHz DDR RAM
Win XP Prof SP2 HU
.Net 1.1, 2.0, 3.0
DirectX 9.0c
Tests
The following drive versions are tested from http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/xp/radeonxprevious-xp.html:
6-12, 7-7, 7-10, 7-11 and the newest one 7-12
Other pages like https://www.techspot.com/drivers/driver/file/information/9395/ seems to forward the same pages during download.
Also the driver set from the card's own CD is tested. It is said to be Catalyst 7.10.
Also latest driver from http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/support/drivers.php is tested.
Results
All driver sets from the ATI page fails. Earlier versionas fail with message:
"Setup did not find a driver compatible with your current hardware or operating system. Setup will now exit."
7-11 fails with:
"Setup was unable to find components that can be installed on your current hardware or software configuration. Please make sure you have the required hardware or software."
7-12 fails with no error message! Does not install any drivers.
The so called 7-10 version on the card's CD detects the card and installs normally!
The driver from Sapphire tech web page also installs normally.
Analysis
It seems that ATI leaves out the RADEON AGP cards from the installs. In the CX_*.inf files the following line is missing:
"ATI RADEON HD 2600 PRO AGP" = ...
This line exists both in the inf file of the CD of the card and in the package from Sapphire Tech.
Comments
I can not recall what had caused the problem for me at the first place. Maybe I immediatelly skipped the CD as I saw it is 7.10 and started with the drivers from the ATI page (recent one 7.12). Or maybe I started with the CD, but it had failed for a reason I can not examine now. Meanwhile I had updated the rather old NVIDIA nForce chipset on my motherboard and I do not want to reverse for the previous one for testing.
The most importatn thing is that for these video cards one should check the http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/support/drivers.php page for new drivers instead of the ATI page. However the driver package is some 234MB here and the Catalyst package is 197MB. This is 10 times bigger than that of the same packages on the ATI page. One should check the reason.
Now I selected the version on the CD that includes all the ATI tools as well in a nice package.
Gabor
I recently bought a Radeon HD 2400 Pro AGP card, and now I am also having troubles getting 3d acceleration to work. When I run the dxdiag direct3d test, it fails at step 8. when I try to use the catalyst 7.7 drivers my settings are set to the lowest color and resolution and I can not change them. I have Directx 9.0c and I have adjusted my aperture to 128. If anyone can lead me to a fix, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
-Brendino
Thanks,
-Brendino
Brendino!
Read my previous post! I solved the very same problem for myself. The driver (Catalyst) versions on the ATI page does not support the AGP cards. I finally used the 3 month old driver that came on a CD with my card and that is working OK. Also you may try the drivers on:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/support/drivers.php
During my problem solving I also increased the BIOS value "AGP Apperture Size" from 64MB to 128MB or 256MB. This work fine, but I think it was not the problem, but the wrong drive from the ATI page.
Is this a new PC, or just a new card? What was your previous card? Did it work fine with 3D acceleration?
Gabor
Read my previous post! I solved the very same problem for myself. The driver (Catalyst) versions on the ATI page does not support the AGP cards. I finally used the 3 month old driver that came on a CD with my card and that is working OK. Also you may try the drivers on:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/us/support/drivers.php
During my problem solving I also increased the BIOS value "AGP Apperture Size" from 64MB to 128MB or 256MB. This work fine, but I think it was not the problem, but the wrong drive from the ATI page.
Is this a new PC, or just a new card? What was your previous card? Did it work fine with 3D acceleration?
Gabor
Blind Dragon
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You also need to ensure that your chipset drivers on your motherboard are up to date.
*The fix that I suggested seems to not work with the HD2400 and HD2600 series cards, they don't like the old drivers and the new drivers don't support AGP.
The simple fix for this is for ATI to bring back 100% support for AGP on their next version drivers. Or put out 2 separate drivers, one for the pci-e cards and one for AGP cards. Why do they not see that. Guess that's why Nvidia is kicking their ***
*The fix that I suggested seems to not work with the HD2400 and HD2600 series cards, they don't like the old drivers and the new drivers don't support AGP.
The simple fix for this is for ATI to bring back 100% support for AGP on their next version drivers. Or put out 2 separate drivers, one for the pci-e cards and one for AGP cards. Why do they not see that. Guess that's why Nvidia is kicking their ***
Blind Dragon
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What card do you have exactly. Who made it, i know its an ATI based gpu but is it something like Sapphire HD 2400 or Powercolor HD 2400. sometimes its works getting the driver from the other company
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