AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT Review: Navi at $280, RTX 2060 down to $300

m3tavision

TS Evangelist
There is a clever reason Dr Su didn't even mention "big navi" @ CES on Her keynote speech.

Reddit seems to believe Jensen is about to get jebaited again, when dr su releases her two new bigger navi dies on the Gaming world. Their size will make them priced just right. I have not done the exact math, but forums say each wafer snaps off about 74 more usable cpu dies, than a TU-anything 12nm. AMD is going to beat nvidia over the head with economy of scale.

So many are expecting AMD, to announce a new price sku for their entire navi line..


Hard to beat the 5700xt for $379 though....
 
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treetops

TS Evangelist
There is a clever reason Dr Su didn't even mention "big navi" @ CES on Her keynote speech.

Reddit seems to believe Jensen is about to get jebaited again, when dr su releases her two new bigger navi dies on the Gaming world. Their size will make them priced just right. I have not done the exact math, but forums say each wafer snaps off about 74 more usable cpu dies, than a TU-anything 12nm. AMD is going to beat nvidia over the head with economy of scale.

So many are expecting AMD, to announce a new price sku for their entire navi line..


Hard to beat the 5700xt for $379 though....
She confirmed big navi 2020. Yeah the 5700 and 5700 non xt prices can be low as heck. Hopefully the 5600 xt follows suite. Suit? Anyways, it's a pre OCed card. But the drivers are what would lead me to team green, 2060.

I don't know why they focus so much on RT, when drivers are the clear edge.
 
Personally , I don't think 5600 xt oc vs stock 2060 is a fair comparison.

Saw from reviews amd squzeed most out of the card leaving 1-3% performance left where rtx 2060 has 8-10% oc headroom left.
If you oc both rtx 2060 is 5%+ faster.
Nvidia maybe ahead in overall things but leaving such performance out is one of their biggest mistake this gen.
For example -
Rtx 2060 oc vs rx5700 oc - same fps + same price + rtx one is cooler + has rt + more efficient + has far better drivers.
Rtx 2060 super oc vs rx 5700 xt oc - Same fps + same price and all the above-mentioned points.

I don't know if Nvidia does this intentionally.

But I support the fact amd literally leaves nothing left as most people do not oc.
 

grumblguts

TS Maniac
Boring
AMD getting pretty boring with their Graphics.
Nvidia may be Dumb proprietary hardware but at least it isn't Boring;.
 

Puiu

TS Evangelist
You're missing the card the 5600XT is supposed to go up against. The 1660 Ti...

Canada Computers:
Cheapest 1660 Ti is $349cdn on sale. Cheapest 5600XT is $429cdn.

Half the 1660 TI's are on sale well below $400. 5600XT will be a very hard sell here.
regional prices will always vary by quite a lot. as for the 1660ti, you can add 2-3 FPS over the 1660 Super, they are very close in terms of performance.
 

m3tavision

TS Evangelist
Personally , I don't think 5600 xt oc vs stock 2060 is a fair comparison.

Saw from reviews amd squzeed most out of the card leaving 1-3% performance left where rtx 2060 has 8-10% oc headroom left.
If you oc both rtx 2060 is 5%+ faster.
Nvidia maybe ahead in overall things but leaving such performance out is one of their biggest mistake this gen.
For example -
Rtx 2060 oc vs rx5700 oc - same fps + same price + rtx one is cooler + has rt + more efficient + has far better drivers.
Rtx 2060 super oc vs rx 5700 xt oc - Same fps + same price and all the above-mentioned points.

I don't know if Nvidia does this intentionally.

But I support the fact amd literally leaves nothing left as most people do not oc.

Except, the 5700 and the 2060 SUPER trade blows and more often than not, on modern games the 5700 comes out ahead. While the 5700xt is superior and flirts with the 2070 Super and 2080 in many modern games.

I run both drivers, & if you are in the same boat you will know that AMD's drivers are superior to what nvidia released over the last year.

Secondly, nobody with a rtx2060 cares about ray tracing, because even the 2070 can't do it in games. Turing has broken RT and Jensen's claims, were lies. That is why people mock him.

Lastly, the Radeon rx 5600 Series competes on Price and nvidia can not go any lower, AMD is bleed nvidia at these prices.
$279 5600xt
$329 5700
$379 5700xt
 
No, not for 1080p gaming with these modern cards for the next 2-3 years. You will always have "fan boys" stating how they are future proofing with 8GB+ cards...except for the fact they are the same people who will be upgrading their 8GB+ cards in 2-3 years anyways
What about hand downs or resale?
 
1. MSRP vs sale price is not a valid comparison. Sales are limited time events that apply to specific models in a specific time period. They aren't values that can be taken and applied to a comparison because they are not prices that are broadly available.
Sadly, you see this a lot - oveclocked vs stock, cheapest model vs. top option,..
 
Except, the 5700 and the 2060 SUPER trade blows and more often than not, on modern games the 5700 comes out ahead. While the 5700xt is superior and flirts with the 2070 Super and 2080 in many modern games.

I run both drivers, & if you are in the same boat you will know that AMD's drivers are superior to what nvidia released over the last year.

Secondly, nobody with a rtx2060 cares about ray tracing, because even the 2070 can't do it in games. Turing has broken RT and Jensen's claims, were lies. That is why people mock him.

Lastly, the Radeon rx 5600 Series competes on Price and nvidia can not go any lower, AMD is bleed nvidia at these prices.
$279 5600xt
$329 5700
$379 5700xt
None of the things you say are true.
Those prices you mentioned are not always available worldwide prices.
 

amstech

IT Overlord
Hope the user reviews are a far cry different then the 5700 and 5700XT, lots of folks returned them according to Newegg and Amazon...many of them verified purchase customers, some reviews are just flat out nasty, most cards had 2-3 out of 5 stars, lots if software/driver issues.
 

Ravalo

TS Addict
:) I think NV knows their market and person making this decision has a little more information than the standard consumer.
Ok, now I can consider myself below the “average consumer” since I bought an rx 5700 xt/r7 3700x prebuilt for 1050$
 

lesovers

TS Rookie
Hope the user reviews are a far cry different then the 5700 and 5700XT, lots of folks returned them according to Newegg and Amazon...many of them verified purchase customers, some reviews are just flat out nasty, most cards had 2-3 out of 5 stars, lots if software/driver issues.
And the facts actually are here, given some good Gigabyte cards:

Gigabyte Radeon Rx 5700 Xt Gaming OC 8G (97 customer reviews):
https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B07W95D5V3/ref=cm_cr_unknown?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews&filterByStar=one_star&pageNumber=1

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Gaming OC 8G (88 customer reviews):
https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B07JC1TM5V/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_cmps_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

Stars 5700 XT RTX 2700
5 58% 57%
4 13% 17%
3 12% 6%
2 5% 3%
1 13% 18%

Need I say any more!
 
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hahahanoobs

TS Evangelist
Looking at Newegg (only new cards, only sold by Newegg), the cheapest 1660 Ti is $ 269 (you can get an additional $20 off mail in card). All others are $279 and up.

Considering that you can get a premium OC 5600XT model from Sapphire for $289 and how far behind the 1660Ti is wrt performance, that seems like a hard sell.

Oh, and checking Canada Computers' web site, the cheapest RX 5600XT is $399 (Gigabyte OC model).
Look again...

 

Lionvibez

TS Evangelist
Look again...

All depends on where you shop.

Though CC is my default location for parts it isn't the only place.

If you check newegg.ca

Filtered for only 1660 TI and 5600XT price is close depending on brand.

 

Prrredictable

TS Rookie
I see some discussion about 1660ti, and I agree with some, regardless of whether its close in price/performance to the 1660 Super. The same could be said about many of the cards in the test.

It seems to me that the 5600xt directly competes in price and performance with the 1660ti, yet we have no comparison.
 

treetops

TS Evangelist
The 5600 XT is kind of a big middle-finger to everyone that bought the RX 5700. Fewer than 10 fps difference (averaged) for $60 less. The 6GB is kind of WTF too.

Honestly, all this does is show us how screwed up mid-range GPU pricing really is. The 5700 should have been $280-$300 out of the gate, and the 5600 XT should be $240-$260.
not to people smart enough to flash the bios or use mpt, which is not that hard
 

amstech

IT Overlord
And the facts actually are here, given some good Gigabyte cards
Need I say any more!
Lol, this doesn't counter anything I said.
I can link cards and quote comments but its pretty easy to see them.
16% of steam gamers used Radeons, thats all you need to know.
Ouch.


Jeffrey F said:
Jeffrey F.
Better off with a 2070 Super12/22/2019 8:24:58 PM
Pros: When it works, it works.
Pumps out good frames on high settings 1080p
Looks good?
Cons: No signal to monitor over and over
Terrible drivers and support
Many games refuse to run
Direct X errors left and right
Daniel M. said:
Daniel M.
Ownership: 1 month to 1 year
Verified Owner
Sapphire 5700 XT is garbage12/1/2019 2:14:50 PM
Pros: The few times it works, it's good
Cons: I have NEVER had as many crashes, bugs and issues with a GPU before. Every game I play it either crashes into a full system reboot or freezes in-game and then boots me back to desktop. I have had to uninstall then reinstall the drivers about 100times now. This GPU is straight GARBAGE!!!
Overall Review: I would never recommend this to someone else
I could quote these all day, 25% are 3 star or lower on the first GPU I looked at, but 16% of Steam gamers is really all you need to know. Isn't the truth a pain in the ***?
Yeah, its ok.
If Radeons were priced much lower to make up for thier inferior software and and more issues, they wouldn't be at a pitiful 16% of steam users.
There's some facts for you.
I can't wait to hear your argument, see more links to Nvidia issues and some comment about how their the same..please, enlighten me!
AAhhhhhhahahahaaha!
 
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JimboJoneson

TS Addict
Lol, this doesn't counter anything I said.
...
16% of steam gamers
...
but 16% of Steam gamers
...
a pitiful 16% of steam users ...


There's some facts for you.

I can't wait to hear your argument, see more links to Nvidia issues and some comment about how their the same..please, enlighten me!
AAhhhhhhahahahaaha!
I'm not sure how he will counter this ... I think this is straight up victory here, in this post.