AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT Review: Is This GPU DOA at $900?

[Avro Arrow]

DOA?

Well, that is an appropriate term for it. It is a terrible value.

Has such dramatic title has ever been used on any of Nvidia last two gens offerings because of their prices by Steve, Tim, HU or TS?

Nope, nVidia would never allow that.

Anyways, you can manipulate this as you wish, one example, its faster than a 3090Ti, which launched at US$ 2K and that GPU was never called "DOA".

No, but he did call it "dumb".

I do believe that AMD was beyond greedy and stupid in naming this 7900 XT, instead of what really is, a 7800 XT and not pricing it accordingly which should be US$ 550 to 650.

AMD is kinda being forced to be overly greedy right now because they have to rake in enough profit to try to match nVidia's R&D budget. With everyone and their mother stupidly throwing money at nVidia, they have no choice but to come close to matching nVidia's greed if they're to have any hope of remaining competitive.

But really, DOA?

I am beyond disappointed with the AMD trashing on HU and TS.

As you know, I tore a strip off of them for their RX 7900 XTX "review", however, I don't consider the RX 7900 XT to be the least bit defensible. Whoever decided that the price for it should be set at $900USD should be shot.

 

[Avro Arrow]

The horror prices in Europe, this card is 1300 Euros Vat included. Kookoo!!!

Yeah but if I lived in Europe, I wouldn't mind paying more for things because I know that the extra taxes I pay go to things like universal healthcare, pensions, etc. In the USA, what social programs they do have are a joke. They're run so badly that it can't be by accident. Remember that the USA has two right-wing parties and they both essentially want to prove to the American people that social programs don't work by viciously under-funding them.

Hey, I pay more for these things in Canada but I'm much happier not having to put off seeing a doctor if I fall ill because I can't afford it. If that means I can't have a halo card, so be it.

 

[emmzo]

AMD is kinda being forced to be overly greedy right now because they have to rake in enough profit to try to match nVidia's R&D. With everyone and their mother stupidly throwing money at nVidia, they have no choice but to come close to matching nVidia's greed if they have any hope of remaining competitive.

Oh, how many times have I seen this argument? AMD is so poor, they "need" to be greedy. Really? AMD market cap is 107 billions. Nevermind the fact that by being moderate in their asking price could have led to much more sales, at least imho.

 

[MarcusNumb]

Not impressed but not disappointed neither.

I see this gen as the first step of stabilizing GPU prices. Hopefully their sales will force both company to reduce prices and give better value GPU next time, who knows ??

 

[Steezus]

AMD fanboys need a safe space to retreat to. Maybe stick to r/amd if you want to live in a made up reality where AMD didn't just try and price gouge with inferior cards.

 

[Ohnooze]

I just looked at newegg and and there are 6 models still available for the 7900xt.
When I looked at the xtx at launch they were sold out first thing in the morning. The price of this card will sink like the titanic in no time.

 

[NeoMorpheus]

Well, that is an appropriate term for it. It is a terrible value.

Nope, nVidia would never allow that.

No, but he did call it "dumb".

AMD is kinda being forced to be overly greedy right now because they have to rake in enough profit to try to match nVidia's R&D. With everyone and their mother stupidly throwing money at nVidia, they have no choice but to come close to matching nVidia's greed if they have any hope of remaining competitive.

As you know, I tore a strip off of them for their RX 7900 XTX "review", however, I don't consider the RX 7900 XT to be the least bit defensible. Whoever decided that the price for it should be set at $900USD should be shot.

As I said, the price and naming convention used by AMD is beyond stupid and they deserved to be called out.

My problem is, Nvidia prices are way higher and yet, they are not trashed like AMD is.

To me, DOA means that this GPU is simply so bad, performance wise, that it should be avoided at ALL cost, but in reality, the real fault is the stupid price.

And again, price is not such an issue when is about any of nvidia offerings to the point that the word DOA is not used on any of them.

They called them dumb as you correctly stated, they can call it expensive here and there, but never used the word DOA and that is my main problem with this article.

 

[NeoMorpheus]

AMD fanboys need a safe space to retreat to. Maybe stick to r/amd if you want to live in a made up reality where AMD didn't just try and price gouge with inferior cards.

Funny story about r/AMD, they only accept AMD CPU's, AMD GPU's are treated as bad as in here, because the nvidia fanbois took over that sub. Thats why there are a bunch of other AMD subs that are for AMD GPU's owners.

That said, its funny how nvidia fanbois can run wild and yet AMD fanbois needs to be quiet.

 

[highwind]

7900 XTX = 7800 XT
7900 XT = 7800 non-XT

NV atleast was consequent enough to correctly "rename" that propsed 4080 12GB before releasing it

 

[Bamda]

DOA, that is a bit harsh. The card is expensive but have you seen the prices of the 3090 Ti/3090 currently this makes those cards a laughing stock. Not to mention the 4080. This is the cheapest high-end card for now so it is what it is.

 

[Ohnooze]

If sales are any indication then this is a hit. There are not to be found in my local Microcenters. Online looks to be the same.

Really?

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[WhiteLeaff]

"The F1 22 results look disappointing as this game enables ray tracing by default when using the Ultra High quality preset"

I think this is unfair, it's not like you can't manually deactivate it, plus the data here itself shows the 7900XT above the 4080 when RT is deactivated.

 

[Bamda]

As far as AMD is concerned, the 7900xt seems to be selling well. It sold out day 1 like the xtx, and even now it appears half of them are out of stock on newegg and amazon listings are or have run out of enough for christmas.

If they're selling this well launching it at $800 would have been throwing money down the tubes, they've found enough buyers to justify the price. For now. They can always lower it later once costs come down and ost have sold to entire further purchases.

That is correct, the early adapter always has to pay for the inflated pricing. These card prices will adjust in time.

 

[NeoMorpheus]

7900 XTX = 7800 XT
7900 XT = 7800 non-XT

NV atleast was consequent enough to correctly "rename" that propsed 4080 12GB before releasing it

Personally, the 7900 XTX should still be called 7900, just no XTX, just XT.

The 7900 XT on the other hand should be called 7800 XT and priced at tops US$650.

 

[takaozo]

Yeah but if I lived in Europe, I wouldn't mind paying more for things because I know that the extra taxes I pay go to things like universal healthcare, pensions, etc. In the USA, what social programs they do have are a joke. They're run so badly that it can't be by accident. Remember that the USA has two right-wing parties and they both essentially want to prove to the American people that social programs don't work by viciously under-funding them.

Hey, I pay more for these things in Canada but I'm much happier not having to put off seeing a doctor if I fall ill because I can't afford it. If that means I can't have a halo card, so be it.

My friend don't confuse taxes applied in pothole country called Romania with other countries.

On paycheck flyer:
Social contribution taxes aka healthcare 10%
Social pension contribution taxes aka pension 25%
Income taxes 10%
All those here are automatically paid on salary day 45% taxes
Private pension and Private healthcare it's optional and paid direct from your money.

So you are taxed 45% once on each paycheck.

After that VAT came in place 19%

The healthcare....depends on country around Europe, some good some not so good like here. You can tell this is an ex communist country by "social" in almost each taxes name.

So for a $1000 card only adding VAT and converting to Euro (1:1) make it 1190 Euro from here reseller and store margins and there you have it 1300-1400 Euro.

1400 Euro it's more or less half of my salary.

 

[Avro Arrow]

It's everywhere. Lots of folks on TPU are calling it a crap card and they're even bashing the XTX model because it's not beating the 4090. They say that AMD's top card (7900 XTX) is pathetic and they shouldn't be asking $1000 for it because it just slightly better than the 4080 and blah, blah, blah.

It doesn't matter where you look, you see the same thing.

I don't know if you saw, but I'm now on TPU now too. There are a lot of obvious trolls there and the people who seem to be real contributors aren't bashing the XTX.

 

[NeoMorpheus]

I don't know if you saw, but I'm now on TPU now too. There are a lot of obvious trolls there and the people who seem to be real contributors aren't bashing the XTX.

Yeap.

But you know who are running wild with the negative titles? The "edgy" influencers/Tubers.

Now, I must admit, LTT surprised me with his XTX review, since he said that he will be moving to the 7900XTX instead of his beloved nvidia.

Of course, he then did a video about AMD EPYC and for some rea$sonS, magically, a 4090 was included in the video.

And then is this gem from Wendell (FF to 19:20 for the best part)

 

[Avro Arrow]

7900 XTX = 7800 XT
7900 XT = 7800 non-XT

NV atleast was consequent enough to correctly "rename" that propsed 4080 12GB before releasing it

What about the RTX 3060 and the RTX 3060?

Forgot about those, eh?

 

[NeoMorpheus]

What about the RTX 3060 and the RTX 3060?

Forgot about those, eh?

How dare you!?!? They are made by our lord and savior himself Mr Leather jacket Lord Jensen!

Of course they are perfect!

 

[Lounds]

NOBODY should buy this card at this price. TBH, I don't think that anyone should buy ANY of the new-gen cards at current prices but that ship sailed long ago. Having said that, the two lower-tier cards, the RTX 4080 and RX 7900 XT are especially bad because they both only exist to make their bigger brothers look better.

My guess is that AMD and nVidia both have the idea that people will buy the more expensive card because it's a better value even though it costs more. If some fools buy the cheaper cards at the current inflated prices, so much the better. However, I think that neither company expects to keep these cards at their current prices (at least I don't think that AMD does, with nVidia, who knows?).

I mean, I don't expect them to drop anytime soon because they both have the rest of their product stacks to release but I'm willing to bet any money that unsold RTX 4080 and RX 7900 XT cards will be the big GPU deals for next year's Black Friday sale. By then, they'll have fulfilled their purpose of getting people to buy the more expensive cards.

Since they're so overpriced, that means that the margins on them must be gigantic and they'll just sell them off "on sale" as Black Friday Deals using their standard margins (which could be a price drop of $250 or more). It'll appear to be a great deal though and nobody will be able to accuse them of raising the price only to lower it again. If that's what they're doing, it's pretty ingenious marketing.

I don't have a problem with it because I see through it. It'll still mean that most people won't be over-paying for these cards because I expect them to (for the most part) gather dust until then. Sure, some fools will buy anything but most won't, as we've seen with the RTX 4080 (although the 7900 XT being $300 cheaper than the RTX 4080 might be tempting for some).

Unfortunately both AMD and Nvidia serve their shareholders first, not their consumers. The last 2 years of shortages due to the crypto boom meant people were willing to spend stupid money on a graphics card because they needed to upgrade etc and both companies think that this is now normal and acceptable. As you said don't buy them and watch the prices drop. It's the same for the housing markets around the world.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Yeap.

But you know who are running wild with the negative titles? The "edgy" influencers/Tubers.

The "edgy" influencers tend to be kids with less money whom nVidia can more easily exploit. They also have a reason to want nVidia cards because they're content creators and nVidia cards are apparently better in that area. Mind you, it's not like Radeon's can't be used because Daniel Owen used a Radeon for quite awhile:

Now, I must admit, LTT surprised me with his XTX review, since he said that he will be moving to the 7900XTX instead of his beloved nvidia.

Yeah, that shocked the hell out of me too. You know what didn't shock me? That Jay had his assistant to do the review of the RTX 7900 XT and XTX. Jay planned his vacation to happen at that time for a reason.

Paul's Hardware and Gamers Nexus had great reviews.

Of course, he then did a video about AMD EPYC and for some rea$sonS, magically, a 4090 was included in the video.

It might have been the only GPU he had at the time that could keep up with an EPYC processor.

And then is this gem from Wendell (FF to 19:20 for the best part)

Yeah I saw that one. Wendell is more knowledgeable about tech than the entire LTT staff combined.

 

[Avro Arrow]

How dare you!?!? They are made by our lord and savior himself Mr Leather jacket Lord Jensen!

Of course they are perfect!

I believe the correct term is.... "Dear Leader".

 

[Avro Arrow]

Unfortunately both AMD and Nvidia serve their shareholders first, not their consumers. The last 2 years of shortages due to the crypto boom meant people were willing to spend stupid money on a graphics card because they needed to upgrade etc and both companies think that this is now normal and acceptable. As you said don't buy them and watch the prices drop. It's the same for the housing markets around the world.

Absolutely! It's the same for any product ever made. If there's lots of supply but not lots of demand, the prices will fall for exactly the same reason that they skyrocketed over the past 2 years. The thing is, I don't have a lot of faith in people, so I don't know what's going to happen.

 

[Avro Arrow]

My friend don't confuse taxes applied in pothole country called Romania with other countries.

You just said Europe so I was forced to use broad strokes. Now that I know that we're talking about Romania, I take back everything that I said. I have a friend named Marius who was born in Bucresti and he told me all about it.

Yes, that situation is nowhere near ideal.

 

[Lounds]

Yeah but if I lived in Europe, I wouldn't mind paying more for things because I know that the extra taxes I pay go to things like universal healthcare, pensions, etc. In the USA, what social programs they do have are a joke. They're run so badly that it can't be by accident. Remember that the USA has two right-wing parties and they both essentially want to prove to the American people that social programs don't work by viciously under-funding them.

Hey, I pay more for these things in Canada but I'm much happier not having to put off seeing a doctor if I fall ill because I can't afford it. If that means I can't have a halo card, so be it.

Yeah Im in the UK and I can't believe how much Americans pay for medication let alone actual surgery or medical procedures. I'd rather be taxed more and not have the worry.