AMD Ryzen 5 1600 vs Intel Core i7-7800X: 30 Game Battle!

[Jimster480]

This is incredible. Thanks for wasting so many hours for us mortals. The results speak for themselves. It should shut up anyone who says that AMD is 30-40% behind Intel in games.
I must admit that I never expected AMD to close the gap so much. Sub 10% when both are OCed? 13% at stock clocks? It's equal to the 7800x? Amazing results.

The R5 1600 is an awesome chip! This is what I am running on right now, I'm really impressed with the power and gaming performance especially at this price.
12 threads for less than the cost of a K SKU i5!

 

[Jimster480]

Great article etc, but the most mind boggling to me was why you chose i7 vs R5? they are kinda different tier CPU's. Why not i5 vs R5 or i7 vs R7?

Ohh yeah, does the Nissan Leaf and Tesla Model S deliver the same performance now? I don't review cars but this doesn't sound right.

To play devil's advocate - both are capable of providing the same performance on all roads when legality is taken into consideration.

But yes the Tesla has the acceleration, speed, and range advantage over the Leaf. The leaf though is like a GTX 1050 and the Tesla is the 1080 Ti.

That isn't really the same type of comparison.

The leaf cannot travel as far, cannot corner as well, does not have as comfortable of seats and yes it can drive the speed limit but if its about how fast you get to the speed limit then even when legality is concerned a Leaf lags behind a Tesla.

 

[OcelotRex]

That isn't really the same type of comparison.

The leaf cannot travel as far, cannot corner as well, does not have as comfortable of seats and yes it can drive the speed limit but if its about how fast you get to the speed limit then even when legality is concerned a Leaf lags behind a Tesla.

Cars are made to get people from place to place, I.e. transportation. In that respect they are exactly the same other than the caveat I provided - range.

It's also illegal (reckless driving, overly aggressive driving ) to accelerate too quickly on public roads so the Tesla, like many high performance cars, cannot be fully enjoyed on public roads. That's the other caveat provided.

 

[Magistus]

We know Overwatch performance also relies on memory. Ryzen has 2 channels for sure, does 7800k in this test use 4 channels? that will be in some sense unfair against Ryzen.

 

[Avro Arrow]

This is incredible. Thanks for wasting so many hours for us mortals. The results speak for themselves. It should shut up anyone who says that AMD is 30-40% behind Intel in games.
I must admit that I never expected AMD to close the gap so much. Sub 10% when both are OCed? 13% at stock clocks? It's equal to the 7800x? Amazing results.

X299 has performance issues, it's completely new. This is why 7800X at 4.7 loses to 7700K stock. Ryzen have had most issues ironed out by now. 7700K still dominate gaming performance.

You have an interesting (to put it mildly) definition of domination. Is the 7700K faster overall? Yes it is. Is it by much? No it isn't. I wonder, did you happen to notice that the gaming IPC of the Ryzen is superior to both of Intel's offerings? Take a good look and do the (rather simple) math. LOL

 

[Avro Arrow]

Haha reactions only.

Intel, are you even trying?

Funnily enough, I think that they are "trying to try" but forgot how. LOL

 

[Avro Arrow]

Others have hit the nail on the head, wanted a 6-core vs. 6-core comparison, 8-cores are overkill for gaming right now. I don't recommend the 1700 over the 1600 for gaming.

I agree completely. With Ryzen, there seems to be a gaming drop-off below the R5-1600 but any CPUs above it experience only marginal, if any, improvements. I got the R7-1700 because I do gaming but also a LOT of video encoding and WOW, I cannot believe the difference between the R7-1700 and the FX-8350. It is just ridiculous! LOL

 

[Avro Arrow]

I am always going to spend less....a few or a dozen frames don't mean diddly

Well it would if we were talking like 50 or 60fps but you're right. All CPUs are well over 100fps and so the differences between them are insignificant.

 

[Avro Arrow]

You certainly sounded like you want Ryzen to win based on your comments. So... biased towards AMD perhaps, a little bit maybe? Hmm?
Good stuff though. Great article. Well, kind of. You should have included higher resolutions.

Why would you want higher resolutions? This is a CPU test and higher resolutions would just have removed the differences between them. At 4K, an i7-7700K and an FX-8350 are like 2fps apart. What kind of test would that be? You certainly sounded like you DIDN'T want Ryzen to win based on your comment. So... biased towards Intel perhaps, a little bit maybe? Hmm?

 

[Avro Arrow]

Maybe, but still. It's like comparing Nissan Leaf vs Tesla Model S ... just because they both have 4 wheels. and 6 wheels would be overkill

Good thing you didn't compare them to some 6 core mobile phone. ... because 6 cores.

But yes, you are right. R5 1600 is a very good choice for gamers and budget builders.

Aren't you being just a tad overly-dramatic? In case you didn't notice (and it doesn't seem like anyone has), Ryzen's gaming IPC is better than Intel's in this test. So which one is the Tesla and which is the Leaf? Are you going to try to say that the performance delta between the CPUs is the same as the performance delta between a Tesla and a Leaf? If you REALLY want to compare electrics here, it would be the Nissan Leaf vs. the Kia Soul EV because they really are that close. Ryzen isn't just for budget builders because it's high-end performance for a budget price. I don't know your definition of a "budget" CPU but to me, a budget CPU is a Pentium G4650, an i3 or an R3. An R5-1600 has more cores than previous i7s and has an IPC level that matches or beats them. The only thing budget here is price. The performance is "mainstream or better".

 

[Avro Arrow]

This looks so good for the 1600, but for some god damned odd reason, I truly hesitate to jump to AMD. And believe me, I won't. Why such diffidence? How can I fight the scruples?

I dunno, did you see Jim at AdoredTV's newest video concerning the topic? Maybe that will help:

 

[Avro Arrow]

Ohh yeah, do the Nissan Leaf and Tesla Model S deliver the same performance now? I don't review cars but this doesn't sound right.

It doesn't sound right because it isn't right. It sounds like someone is trying to compare Intel to Tesla which is just... a massive insult to Tesla.

 

[Peter i]

With 9% advantage, you wouldn't notice the diffrent when couple with low end graphics! (1050ti) for example.... tested on friends 1600...and I can confirm this . And who will using a cheaper GPU with higher end cpu anyway ? because of graphics bottlenecking !

 

[Joe Reyes]

Hey, I would say that this article is actually really helpful with the fact that it has the amount of information it does have and my personal experience with a ryzen 5 and a intel-i7 personally I would prefer a ryzen 5 mainly for the fact of gaming ad as above the most fps and min fps was ryzen 5 for the most part, in some specs there will be a reason why a intel-i7 would be better for example the clock speed on this i7 is 3.5 default and the ryzens in 3.4 default ad you can boost these but it potentially hurts the cpu but with the i7 your able to boost it to 4 ghz without damaging it.