Apple removes WhatsApp and Threads from the App Store in China following government order

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What just happened? Apple has once again kowtowed to the Chinese government by removing Meta's WhatsApp and Threads apps from the mainland China App Store. Apple said it was ordered to do so at the request of the Cyberspace Administration of China, which claimed the demand was related to national security concerns. Telegram and Signal were also deleted from the store.

The four apps are some of the many Western services and products already blocked by China's Great Firewall, but users can bypass these restrictions using VPNs. Reuters writes that other Meta apps, including Facebook, Instagram, and Messenger, were still available on the App Store in China, as were other Western apps such as YouTube and X.

Apple said in a statement, "We are obligated to follow the laws in the countries where we operate, even when we disagree."

China's Communist Party has long kept a tight rein on what the population sees and does on the internet. The government monitors communications and censors sensitive topics such as the Tiananmen Square protests on social media.

Although iPhone sales fell in China by around a quarter during the first six weeks of 2024, the country remains a large and important market for the Cupertino firm. CEO Tim Cook praised China in March 2023, calling its relationship with Apple "symbiotic." As tensions between Beijing and the US kept on rising, Chinese Vice-Premier Ding Xuexiang told Cook in October that the country remained committed to its relationship with Apple.

Washington hasn't eased the pressure on China this year, adding more export restrictions on certain US-made chips – the use of Intel's Meteor Lake CPUs in Huawei's recent MateBook X Pro drew plenty of criticism from Republican lawmakers. There's also the potential of a TikTok ban that appears more likely every day. But despite the animosity between the two nations, Cook emphasized Apple's commitment to China in March and his own personal feelings toward the country.

"I love China, I love being here, I love the people and the culture. Every time I come here, I am reminded that anything is possible here," Cook said.

A report from 2021 claimed that Cook signed a secret five-year deal in 2016 worth $275 billion with Chinese officials that would see Apple invest in the country's economic and technological development. In exchange, Apple's operations and services wouldn't face the same extensive regulatory scrutiny Chinese agencies often heap on foreign companies.

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When letting people talk to each other without government oversight is a threat to the government, it says a lot about how bad that government is.

(This includes any government afraid of encrypted communications for the masses, not just China)
 
When letting people talk to each other without government oversight is a threat to the government, it says a lot about how bad that government is.

(This includes any government afraid of encrypted communications for the masses, not just China)

Yeah, but you also kinda like it when the govt stops terrorists from blowing up your local mall, don't you?
 
Yeah, but you also kinda like it when the govt stops terrorists from blowing up your local mall, don't you?
Keep thinking that when the government picks you up for posting hecking wrong think on a private chat with your family or friends. "Stopping terrorists" is not a justification for mass spying efforts on innocent civilians. We're not cattle for slaughter when it's convenient.

A man who trades a little privacy for a little security will receive neither.
 
Yeah, but you also kinda like it when the govt stops terrorists from blowing up your local mall, don't you?
I know this is crazy but...

My local mall has never been blown up by terrorists. Even BEFORE texts or encrypted texts.

It's almost like the false negative (it could be worse hypothetically) isn’t a valid argument for unlimited government power.
 
No but I was told that is totally different because...America! *($ Yeah! 😎😎😎
No, you were told it was different because, unlike TikTok, no one is using WhatsApp and Threads to secretly target dissident citizens for assassination, nor ferret out industrial and military secrets to aid a repressive dictatorial regime. Any more questions?
 
Keep thinking that when the government picks you up for posting hecking wrong think on a private chat with your family or friends. "Stopping terrorists" is not a justification for mass spying efforts on innocent civilians. We're not cattle for slaughter when it's convenient.

A man who trades a little privacy for a little security will receive neither.
Do you have any evidence to support the government spying on every "private chat" or even most of them without any reason?
 
No, you were told it was different because, unlike TikTok, no one is using WhatsApp and Threads to secretly target dissident citizens for assassination, nor ferret out industrial and military secrets to aid a repressive dictatorial regime. Any more questions?
Do you have evidence TikTok is "secretly target dissident citizens for assassination..." or to"...ferret out industrial and military secrets to aid a repressive dictatorial regime."?
 
Do you have evidence TikTok is "secretly target dissident citizens for assassination..." or to"...ferret out industrial and military secrets to aid a repressive dictatorial regime."?
Glad you asked:

"... the former employee of ByteDance, Yintao Yu, alleged that the CCP spied on pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong in 2018 by using “backdoor” access to TikTok to identify and monitor the activists’ locations and communications."


"...Former TikTok exec: Chinese Communist Party had “God mode” entry to US data....According to claims, the CCP had its own office inside ByteDance’s headquarters...."

"...ByteDance tracked multiple Forbes journalists as part of this covert surveillance campaign, which was designed to unearth the source of leaks inside the company following a drumbeat of stories exposing the company’s ongoing links to China".


"...TikTok is a ‘massive surveillance’ tool for China...."


"...Last week, the U.S. Justice Department announced the indictment of one former and one current Department of Homeland Security agent in connection with an alleged Chinese government plot to target U.S.-based critics."


"...China was the top state of origin practicing transnational repression in 2022, with 253 on-record cases committed by the Chinese government. Executed by its state-owned agencies and state-sponsored agents, the Chinese government relentlessly carries out various means of suppression targeting dissidents abroad...."


 
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