Comcast anti-trust probe launched, DoJ concerned about Xfinity

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Citing individuals "familiar with the matter", the Wall Street Journal claims the Department of Justice is investigating Comcast for possible anti-trust violations. The DoJ has reportedly spoken to Netflix, Hulu, Comcast and others so far during their investigation. Comcast has been accused of abusing data caps in order to undermine third-party video streaming services.

This probe follows last month's request by Senator Franken (D-MN) which called upon the DoJ to investigate Comcast for potentially violating guidelines set forth during its acquisition of NBC Universal. Those guidelines prohibit Comcast from "unreasonable discrimination" when it comes to the data and content served over its infrastructure, which is likely the real issue here.

Xfinity, Comcast's $5/mo TV show and movie streaming service, is probably the investigation's creamy center. Although details concerning the probe are mostly unknown, Comcast was accused of playing favorites by allowing its own residential customers to stream Xfinity videos without the resulting bandwidth counting toward their monthly 250GB data cap. The cable company announced this feature in March, specifically for Xbox users who install Comcast's Xfinity app.

Opponents of the Xfinity deal worry that Comcast subscribers may be afraid of reaching the imposed monthly limit by watching videos on Netflix, Hulu, YouTube and other services. As a result, such Comcast subscribers may be influenced to sign up for Xfinity without giving other video services a second thought.

In April, Netflix CEO Reed Hastings was disturbed by this practice and posted his thoughts on Facebook:

Comcast no longer following net neutrality principles. Comcast should apply caps equally, or not at all. I spent the weekend enjoying four good internet video apps on my Xbox: Netflix, HBO GO, Xfinity, and Hulu. When I watch video on my Xbox from three of these four apps, it counts against my Comcast internet cap. When I watch through Comcast’s Xfinity app, however, it does not count against my Comcast internet cap. 

Source: Reed Hastings, facebook.com

Comcast reminded opponents that only Comcast cable television subscribers can sign up for Xfinity. The company argued that Xfinity is merely an extension of its own existing cable service which is streamed via the same IP-based network it uses for CATV Digital On Demand services. Additionally, as spelled out in their Xbox FAQ, Comcast says it treats the Xfinity Xbox app as a cable box, for all intents and purposes.

Coincidentally, Comcast has since eased up on its 250GB per month bandwidth cap. The company said in May that it will ignore the policy until plans to test and roll out a friendlier 300GB soft cap come into play.

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If Comcast is counting the XBOX as a cable box and the ppl who download the APP agree to it, I dont see where the DoJ has any sway in the matter. Comcast is giving another way to recieve their services nothing more. Its a shame that instead of the other netmovie providers innovating their own services, they would rather cry "NO FAIR!"
 
In this case, Comcast is right. The traffic never leaves Comcast's network and is likely stored in their regional data centers, similar to their VoD programming. If it's not traversing their peering points, it's not the same as Netflix or Hulu.
 
The problem is that your argument is irrelevant. Yes, it is within their own network and they aren't having to connect through other companies networks, however they ARE stifling competition by imposing these bandwidth caps only to the competitors traffic. The result is that they would squeeze that competition out of the market by artificially inflating the prices of said competition, so the DOJ is absolutely right to investigate this. Anything that harms consumers through anti-competitive measures deserves to be reviewed for anti-trust violations.
 
DOJ has no grounds.

Comcasts are giving these free caps out to people who use THEIR cable service. and this streaming service is the content from THEIR cable service. therefore they make it free, because if you can get it free on the TV. why would you pay to get it on the Xbox?

therefore making it free because you ALREADY PAID for the service by owning Comcast cable.
 
The problem is that your argument is irrelevant. Yes, it is within their own network and they aren't having to connect through other companies networks, however they ARE stifling competition by imposing these bandwidth caps only to the competitors traffic. The result is that they would squeeze that competition out of the market by artificially inflating the prices of said competition, so the DOJ is absolutely right to investigate this. Anything that harms consumers through anti-competitive measures deserves to be reviewed for anti-trust violations.

What is relevant however, is your lack of knowledge in this area.

You're describing free market capitalism...
 
The problem is cable services don't play in the free market. They are monopolies, and therefore should be subject to a higher standard. A monoploy cannot use it's power to force out competitive services.
 
As a comcast subscriber, I am all for this. They cap my bandwidth like there's no tomorrow. Internet gets unusable at times, and I have the business unlimited plan. This investigation is long overdue.
 
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