Debates rage after PC retailer denies claim it sent customer an RTX 3050 instead of RMA'd RTX 4070 Ti

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In brief: We've seen plenty of stories in the past about reputable retailers sending customers the wrong or fake graphics cards (or something else entirely). It usually ends with the companies apologizing and rectifying the situation, but an online seller is not only disputing one of these claims, it's also posting about it on social media.

According to a post on the PCMasterRace subreddit by user adowad, Overclockers UK, one of the largest online PC retailers in the United Kingdom, returned an RTX 3050 even though he had sent the company an Inno3D RTX 4070 Ti for RMA.

Rma'd my 4070ti with OVERCLOCKERS and received this in return please advise
byu/adowad inpcmasterrace

Companies tend to respond with generic "we are investigating the matter" lines in cases like these, but it seems Overclockers is so adamant that it did nothing wrong that the company posted a lengthy message on X/Twitter defending itself.

Overclockers first points out that, based on the photo on Reddit, this RTX 3050 graphics card is likely an OEM model that would have been exclusively manufactured and distributed by the brand for use in its own PCs, meaning the retailer would never have stocked this particular card.

The other piece of evidence is the weight. Overclockers says the package was reported to be 500g when returned to the company, but the weight of an inno3d 4070Ti is 1.2kg, so whatever was sent was apparently 700g lighter.

Finally, the firm says the value of the products it sells means enhanced security measures are in place, ensuring that tampering with customer returns and bringing in products from the outside is not possible.

There's a lot of debate about what happened here and who's at fault. Some are siding with the Redditor, others with Overclockers.

While Overclockers is pointing towards the package's weight as the smoking gun, adowad says he never weighed the RTX 4070 Ti, and that it was the delivery service that did it at the depot. Moreover, the RTX 3050 package he received weighed 100g according to the courier service, when in reality it was much heavier.

adowad posted an update in the last hour stating that Overclockers wants to work with him on the matter. They also provided details for if he wishes to start claims proceedings and contact the police. It seems the company wants to investigate the weight discrepancy provided by the courier to see if it can be clarified in writing.

We've seen many cases where people have received the wrong or fake graphics cards. In January, we heard that Amazon sold an RTX 4090 with an RTX 4080 GPU and fried components. Amazon also sent a customer a putty-filled RTX 3060 Ti in 2022 and wouldn't replace it with a real one. There was also the case of Newegg refunding a customer who received an RTX 4090 box filled with weights. The company previously had to make changes to its internal return process following a public dispute with popular hardware enthusiast and YouTuber Steve Burke from Gamers Nexus.

With more stories like these arriving all the time, it seems the best course of action is to record the opening of expensive computer hardware just to be sure.

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If retailer has a good reputation, then he is most likely right.
Of course, no business is immune from hiring very stupid people
who suddenly decide to steal something from work. They dont think,
they just have a flash, a beam of light shining on their grey matter, and then their brain goes back
into low power mode.
This reminds me the kid who was buying PCs from Walmart, ripping parts from them
, and reselling them online. He must have felt like the smartest thief on earth because he wasn't caught for a while.
Eventually they got him, and by the time he has repaid what he owes, he will most likely know it was not worth it.
 
Call the police to file a report? What the (!@# are these guys thinking?

Just be a normal (!@#( company, refund your customer and deal with the courier yourselves like basically everybody else does: Is not like the courier lost some plutonium or damaged a Picasso it's just a GPU: You probably lost more money battling on twitter I know I'll never buy anything from them under any circumstances now.
 
It could always be worse. At least he received a graphics card back. I know a few people who sent their graphics cards into Gigabyte before Gigabyte was hit with ransomware during the GPU shortage. They never received their replacement cards form Gigabyte.
 
There's actually a very easy way to solve this. OCUK stated that the package they received from Adowad weighed only 500g. If that's true, then it's impossible that he's telling the truth because no RTX 4070 Ti weighs only 500g.

Since the shipping records of all couriers include package weights, the courier's records will show who is lying. In fact, I'd be surprised if the weight of the package wasn't printed on the shipping label itself. Package weight is just as important to a courier as package dimensions because it indicates how much energy would be required to move said package from point-A to point-B. The weight of a package must always be communicated to a courier when getting a quote and it is always recorded when the courier actually weighs it.

I actually pointed this out to Adowad on Reddit in hopes of helping him prove his story. If he's lying, then it would be equally effective at exposing him.

Either way, this would make the truth come out.
 
There's actually a very easy way to solve this. OCUK stated that the package they received from Adowad weighed only 500g. If that's true, then it's impossible that he's telling the truth because no RTX 4070 Ti weighs only 500g.

Since the shipping records of all couriers include package weights, the courier's records will show who is lying. In fact, I'd be surprised if the weight of the package wasn't printed on the shipping label itself. Package weight is just as important to a courier as package dimensions because it indicates how much energy would be required to move said package from point-A to point-B. The weight of a package must always be communicated to a courier when getting a quote and it is always recorded when the courier actually weighs it.

I actually pointed this out to Adowad on Reddit in hopes of helping him prove his story. If he's lying, then it would be equally effective at exposing him.

Either way, this would make the truth come out.
Great theory unless... It was the courier who pulled the ol switcheroo. It's happened before.
 
Shouldn't buy anything off OCUK, anyway.

They're the biggest price gouging opportunists in the UK.
They're a bunch of w****ers!
I have a couple of bad interactions with them over the years and stay away from them now.
One of them involved a lengthy RMA of a motherboard. I was given a replacement that was covered in dust and looked like it was 2nd hand, without the 6 sata cables and the backplate that should have come in the box.
After many weeks and even interacting with the management who promised over and over again that they had sent the missing items on to me at least 4 times, I never received those items.
Another time they took down a review of a bad product. I reviewed it again and they took it down again. They didn't want honest reviews, just the good ones.
 
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