Yet here you are reading them... I mean, what did you expect? Rich snob who's full of himself acting like a clown and lashing out at every critic got what he deserves. He's still worth over a hundred billion, so should we pity him?
Elon Musk becomes first person in history to see their wealth fall by $200 billion
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Yeah, why not ask Musk about that? I sense that he would strongly disagree.
No need to ask him; any first-year accountant would know this. It is just book value, btw do you own any stocks?
May be because he is the CEO of multiple tech companies?
I own many stocks (through a broker). And I know how asset's worth effects many aspects of credit and how it looks to the investment community. Now, do you deny that kind of loss can have a devastating effect on how the public looks at them for potential investment?
Because one thing Tesla could desperately use right now is new investors.
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NumberSix
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Tesla might be making its own cells but LFP isn't anything new, it has been around for decades and although it lasts longer it is also heaver and has a lower energy density.
PEnnn
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Lost a fortune, was forced to buy the Twitter white elephant, lost his mind and proved he's even more thin-skinned than his hero, the Fat American Orange Loser!!!
Great achievements, and all in one year, deserves The Biggest Loser of the Year award.
Great achievements, and all in one year, deserves The Biggest Loser of the Year award.
maxxcool7421
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Currently the biggest torch is the Chevy Bolt. They even recomended not to park the car inside your house and all have been recalled. Not Tesla. As a mater of fact Tesla had not had any fires for a long time now and all of few fires have become national news and were investigated troughly and none were caused by defect in the battery or the car. It is alwas external factors like crash or something else.
Lets not forget that EVs are much much less probable to catch fire than gas cars though. No one calls gas cars about that and people still drive them and there is not much scare. So we are talking about something very very remote here.
Avro Arrow
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maxxcool7421
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And yet, still has a worse long term satisfaction and quality rating than ... /ahem/ Dodge ram pickups...
Any proof of that? Everyone I know that has Tesla sais that this is the best car by far and will never go back to any gas car ever again.
Long term stats are not a big thing for pickups.
It's quite a different scenario when judging the Ram, F-Series and Silverado trucks.
With few exceptions, heavy construction sites are dominated by Rams and F-Series trucks, and as such, get beat on their entire life.
The Silverado is mostly delivering Avon, Tupperware, and Mary Kay.
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Tesla topped Consumer reports customer satisfaction survey every year from 2013-2019 when there was a bit of a questionable removal of them from the top spot. This was widely reported by many well established publications including CR themselves.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrym...t-about-tesla-tesla-responds/?sh=548e058c31b6
If you have a subscription to CR you can look up the archived awards for yourself, they appear to have paywalled all of their content in recent times.
This appears to be yet another arena where present fashion sense is pushing aside the historical facts of the matter. You don't have to agree with every stance taken by another individual to be able to accept the factual reality of past events. A quick search on your preferred browser will turn up hundreds of articles on every platform from the LA Times to Fox news regarding just how much of an American success story Tesla has been. Choose your favorite references from steel to straw as they are nearly unanimous regarding how customers feel about their purchase of a modern American EV. There are plenty of valid critiques of Tesla from subscription modeled accessories to the true impact of their manufacture on poorer areas of the planet.
Anecdotally; Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini and McLaren are much more likely to pop up in your searches regarding automotive fires than Tesla.
Olivia Simmons
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Every step that is taken and not appreciated by everybody has a valuable reason. It is only known to the person taking that step. Maybe Elon Musk had his own reason. He has been suffering and had to bare a lot of things that we never know.
Avro Arrow
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Yeah ok, that's pretty bad. I don't call them "Jesus Chryslers" for nothing.
Avro Arrow
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And then of course, there's the legend, the indestructible Toyota Hilux:Long term stats are not a big thing for pickups.
It's quite a different scenario when judging the Ram, F-Series and Silverado trucks.
With few exceptions, heavy construction sites are dominated by Rams and F-Series trucks, and as such, get beat on their entire life.
The Silverado is mostly delivering Avon, Tupperware, and Mary Kay.
rodb31007
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If I lost that much money or even had that much money I definitely would have trouble sleeping at night . LOL
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Sorry my friend, but if price had ANYTHING to do with it, every site in America would have nothing but GM vehicles. They are the least expensive full size, followed by the 2nd cheapest.... the Toyota Tacoma. Honestly, price has little to do with choosing an HD work truck.
Mind you, this does not include 1\2 ton trucks which are very light duty, and mostly for Mommies and flower shops.
Plus, I guess they can drop Toyota's into the Grand Canyon if they like, but their history is far less impressive when doing heavy site work.
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https://www.motortrend.com/features/cheapest-new-pickup-trucks?slide=10
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Avro Arrow
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If I still had billions left, I wouldn't.If I lost that much money or even had that much money I definitely would have trouble sleeping at night
Avro Arrow
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Actually, you're right. I forgot how barebones a setup you can get in a Silverado. However, the Tacoma isn't a full-size, the Tundra is.
That's only true in North America. Do you honestly believe that they don't make heavy trucks in Japan? They do but Toyotas have a different name when it comes to heavier trucks and that name is Hino. We only see the small Hino trucks over here though. In Japan, the big truck names are Hino and Fuso (Mitsubishi).Honestly, price has little to do with choosing an HD work truck.
Mind you, this does not include 1\2 ton trucks which are very light duty, and mostly for Mommies and flower shops.
Plus, I guess they can drop Toyota's into the Grand Canyon if they like, but their history is far less impressive when doing heavy site work.
I don't need to check, I believe you. It's good that you put it there though.
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