Elon Musk defies local orders by reopening Tesla factory, says he's ready to be arrested

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Danny101

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It's posts like this that sometimes makes me want to smack my head against a wall...

I don't think people really understand what a pandemic is... or what it means... SOME people can't just do what they please - and let the others stay home...

The whole point of self-isolation is that EVERYONE needs to do it!! Kind of like vaccinating!

There's no point in me staying home if you're going to go out, get infected, and spread it around!!

How about everyone just listens to the experts and waits until it's really OK to go back to work.
Even the experts are divided. Hmm. Now it's a question of who's credible and who's shilling. Shutting everything down doesn't appear to be the right move. Opening everything up without regard may not be either. What is clear in this debate is too much arrogance from people who don't know **** and only spouting what they hear from their expert of choice.
 
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Danny101

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Too many answers and not enough questions. We have 2 ears and one mouth. There's a good reason for that.
 

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What's looking like to be an effective treatment:

Hydrochloroquine- The body's immune system produces exosomes that clear out infections and toxins. When they are overwhelmed, CHQ is a nuclear option that destroys the whole cell, taking out the infection. This also creates a chain reaction, which...

Vitamin C helps to stop.

Zinc stabilizes the immune system which begins to falter under the load. (cytokine storm)

Antibiotics/ antivirals help to fight the infection before it reaches the cells.

As a team, all of these substances help to clear the infection.

Do not take CHQ or QUININE by itself.

Interestingly enough, cranberries happen to contain both QUININE and Vitamin C. So it seems to me you can consume natural foods that do all of these things. There are at least 14 known natural antibiotics and antivirals, namely garlic.

This is what I've found through researching it and hoping it's helpful.
 
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Even the experts are divided. Hmm. Now it's a question of who's credible and who's shilling. Shutting everything down doesn't appear to be the right move. Opening everything up without regard may not be either. What is clear in this debate is too much arrogance from people who don't know **** and only spouting what they hear from their expert of choice.
No.... they aren't.... the INTERNET is divided.... The consensus is what has been stated before - self isolate!!!

"Shutting everything down" DOES appear to be the right move... it's people who's pocketbooks are suffering who dispute that...
 

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Squid Surprise

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[SIZE=22px]Leading epidemiologists publish duelling commentaries, igniting debate on social media[/SIZE]

I'm glad you actually READ that article... here's a snippet...
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Lipsitch said he talked to Ioannidis beforehand and found that they had more in common than it seemed.

"I would say that his article did what contrarian writing should do: started a discussion."

Lipsitch insists drastic action is required.
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Obviously, there are different opinions - but the CONSENSUS is still to prepare for the worst - as we still don't have enough data to responsibly do anything else.

Remember, this virus was only discovered back in January.... to compare it to the Flu, which we've known about for over 100 years, is simply unfair.
 

Danny101

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"Remember, this virus was only discovered back in January.... to compare it to the Flu, which we've known about for over 100 years, is simply unfair."

Except that China was dealing with it much earlier. They say that China was hiding it, which is reasonable to assume true. But for the nature of intelligence, there was information likely available that was also withheld even in this country. Will it go to an investigation committee? Probably. Will the results be as skewed as the results from the 9/11 committee? Probable again. Not knowing about it until January? I call BS on that one. Like it or not, there's political implications that we're seeing play out right. Who knee what and when.
 

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The first cases were diagnosed in December 2019... and even if China was "hiding it" - which you don't have a shred of evidence to support - it wouldn't be more than a month or 2 before... regardless, the global community has only had a few months to start developing treatments for it - they've had OVER A CENTURY to develop treatments for the Flu...

I stand by it not being a fair comparison... feel free to provide evidence to contradict me, instead of your opinion...
 

Danny101

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I stand by it not being a fair comparison... feel free to provide evidence to contradict me, instead of your opinion...
You can have the same data and still come to a different conclusion. It happens all the time. Like it or not, it's still interpreted data and these days, again, often based on political bent. For instance, the evidence of severity based on the occupation levels of hospitals. The right says "it's obviously not severe, since the hospitals are not full". While I appreciate that conclusion and it may be true, I still must play devil's advocate and consider it not evidence of severity. Why? Because it can also reasonably be hypothesize that since people are staying home, then it has therefore slowed the spread, and consequently the load. So with that, I come back with, "Ok, so now we have slowed the spread and thus the load, we must now treat the economy and play the balance between a medical versus economic disaster." Like the "'experts' said they would do.
 

Danny101

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The Left still keeps moving the goal posts and now want to keep the economy shut down until a vaccine is available. No. I don't think so. Open it up. We now have medical mitigations which I have already described. We're not destroying the economy and lives just so leftist tyrants can win an election. It's gone from a medical issue to a political one and people are tired of the games. They obviously don't realize just how deep, far, and broad the resentment is and it's growing everyday. Even those just left-of-center are moving away.
 

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The Left still keeps moving the goal posts....
Interesting... I asked you to provide evidence for Covid being just like the Flu and now you're spouting a bunch of different nonsense... I think I know who's actually moving the goalposts here...
 

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They don't know what they're doing. They're just winging it.
No... they’re doing their best with the limited information available... again, this disease is brand new! As we learn more about it, our strategies will change to match!
Deciding “it’s fine and let’s get back to normal” without knowing all the facts simply risks lives...
Any chance you want to provide some evidence for the drivel you’ve posted already by the way? Still waiting on your proof that it’s “just like the flu”....
 

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They don't know what they're doing. They're just winging it.
Don't bother the left wants to hide in their home terrified of their own shadow, your never going to get them to think critically about anything they are far to indoctrinated to understand what critical thinking skills are. They believe it's the government's job to provide their every need by taxing anyone that has anything they don't.
 
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Except I provide a rationale for my argument and he keeps changing his argument without responding to any of my points... I think it’s pretty obvious who’s doing the critical thinking and who’s just spouting conspiracy theories without any evidence...
 

Danny101

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Here's your conspiracy theory.
Reopened states revive economy as doomsday predictions don't materialize
 

Danny101

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Deciding “it’s fine and let’s get back to normal” without knowing all the facts simply risks lives...
Yeah, we won't know the facts until the Demo-communists win the election.

Is it about a virus or an election?
It suspiciously looks like Democrats and China created this pandemic together.

Bill Maher Begs for a Recession to Get Rid of Donald Trump
Which is curious because a Democrat democracy looks more like communism.
 
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