Elon Musk says aging is a "very solvable problem" during surprise World Economic Forum debut

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What just happened? Elon Musk has never been a fan of the World Economic Forum, having once declined an invitation to Davos because it sounded "boring af lol." As such, his first appearance at the Swiss event came as a surprise, as did his claim that aging is "a very solvable problem."

Musk made his WEF debut yesterday for an interview with BlackRock CEO and interim WEF cochair Larry Fink. The world's richest man has long criticized the organization for "increasingly becoming an unelected world government."

Musk started with a joke, of sorts, about President Trump's recent actions and his Board of Peace. "I was like, is that piece? A little piece of Greenland. A little piece of Venezuela," he said. It got the kind of muted response you'd expect. It's likely that Mel Brooks – who did the same joke (in song) so brilliantly as Hitler in 1983's To Be or Not To Be – would have been embarrassed for him.

The conversation covered a lot of what Musk has talked about in the past: AI and robotics becoming "ubiquitous" and making human work obsolete, AGI arriving by 2030 or 2031. Back in 2023, Musk told then-UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak that artificial intelligence will eventually replace all human jobs as it would be able to "do everything."

Musk also talked about Tesla's Optimus robots, which he said will go on sale to the public next year. He said that when robots do outnumber humans there will be a huge economic boom, but urged caution as "we don't want to find ourselves in a James Cameron movie."

Musk also said that SpaceX would launch its solar-powered AI data centers into space within a few years, adding that he expects them to solve the problem of data centers consuming vast amounts of power on Earth.

"The net effect is that the lowest cost place to put AI will be in space, and that'll be true within two years, maybe three at the latest," said Musk.

There was also a swipe against tariffs in the US. Musk said the United States could produce enough solar power to meet all of its electricity needs, including data centers, by covering a small corner of Utah or Nevada with solar panels – something he previously said in 2015.

"Unfortunately, the tariff barriers for solar are extremely high and that makes the economics of deploying solar artificially high," Musk said.

Musk also gave his views on aging and death. "When we figure out what causes aging, I think we'll find it's incredibly obvious. It's not a subtle thing," he said.

"The reason I say it's not a subtle thing is because all the cells in your body, you know, pretty much age at the same rate. I've never seen someone with an old left arm and a young right arm ever in my life, so why is that? There must be a clock that is synchronizing across 35 trillion cells in your body."

The billionaire did admit that there are some benefits to death. "If people do live for a very long time, I think there's some risk of an ossification of society. Of things getting locked in place," he said. "It may become stultifying. A lack of vibrancy, but that said, do I think we'll figure out ways to extend life and maybe even reverse aging? I think that's highly likely."

Elsewhere in the conversation, Musk joked that he would like to die on Mars, "but not on impact."

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Have a robot take care of my kids and pets, no thanks

Clean, do the dishes etc, fine, unless it can go red eyes
 
Data centers in space sure is a persistent one, it sounds even dumber than the harvesting power and sending it back to earth (through mirrors, microwaves or lasers) ideas to me. Because you know, getting rid of heat in space is an issue, as is maintenance, upgrades, space radiation and the big one - the cost of getting stuff there.

Considering Musk made his fortune by telling half truths and seems to be a big fan of ketamine I don't pay much attention to what he says.
 
Data centers in space sure is a persistent one, it sounds even dumber than the harvesting power and sending it back to earth (through mirrors, microwaves or lasers) ideas to me. Because you know, getting rid of heat in space is an issue, as is maintenance, upgrades, space radiation and the big one - the cost of getting stuff there.

Considering Musk made his fortune by telling half truths and seems to be a big fan of ketamine I don't pay much attention to what he says.
Not to mention that huge cost of lugging those servers to space. I guess Musk is counting on that to the benefit of his SpaceX.
 
How are you defining solvable?

Much of aging is due to cosmic radiation (how all your cells age in sync Elon). Solution: live your life in a lead-lined bunker.

Not very practical but it is a solution.
 
Billionaires already have access and can afford advanced biomechanical maintenance that flushes senescence cells that are dying but not being removed, hormone and stem cell therapy, on a regular schedule.

Elon doesn't look like he's a fitness buff. But, that also helps with a balanced, and tasty, diet.
 
Billionaires already have access and can afford advanced biomechanical maintenance that flushes senescence cells that are dying but not being removed, hormone and stem cell therapy, on a regular schedule.

Elon doesn't look like he's a fitness buff. But, that also helps with a balanced, and tasty, diet.
“Advanced biomechanical maintenance” is snake oil sold to people with more money than sense. Most are experimental and, at best, show minor benefits only for narrow and specific medical conditions. There is zero peer-reviewed evidence they meaningfully slow aging.

Billionaires aren’t thwarting aging or increasing their longevity beyond the average at all. It would be clearly documented otherwise. Wealth maybe buys better healthcare and/or earlier treatment. It certainly doesn’t buy an escape from aging (yet).
 
The net effect is that the lowest cost place to put AI will be in space

As per usual, it's something only a lunatic (pun intended) would say. Sending anything into space is BY FAR the most expensive way of moving objects. It has been that way, and will most likely stay that way for the next few hundred years.

Putting 1 kg of payload into orbit costs around $3000, and that's only putting it into orbit, then there's the recurring cost of actually _keeping_ it in orbit.

A single NV H200 server weighs 130 kg, and that's only the node, it requires a truckload of related parts as well. So, launching a single server node alone would cost around $400k. This is the cost of moving the server box from place A to place B. On Earth, it's maybe a few hundred bucks.

Now... these wonderful AI companies are deploying tens of thousands of such nodes. And I repeat, this is only the node itself, then there's the rack, networking, storage, power supply, UPS, everything. Total weight per node will be at least 2-3 times more.

And this is only the launch. How does this genius plan on performing any sort of maintenance? Does he also think that sending an astronaut for replacing failing parts is cheaper than sending John Doe into the server room on Earth?

It's not rocket science (pun intended again), but this clown keeps refusing to do even elementary math. Clearly, he never operated any sort of data center (or IT equipment, even), otherwise he wouldn't even suggest such a ludicrous idea in the first place. Data centers are 1% installation, 99% constant (human) maintenance, then disposal and replacement. Yeah, let me guess: he want's to automate that. Cool, expect your automated robotic arm can't pull replacement parts out of thin air (let alone vacuum).

The whole idea is utter rubbish.

I've never seen someone with an old left arm and a young right arm ever in my life, so why is that?

Alright kids, recess is over!

OMG...
 
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Every megarich person begins to think about the way to extent his life when he gets older. Has been this way 500 and 1500 years ago.

The absolutely magnificent thing about it comes when they realize no amount of money will save them from death and it settles in that life never was about money possessions or power. It is about things no money can buy and time is running out. Agreed not all of them are lucky enough but some, the brightest ones.
 
yeah. it prevents the human race from extinction.
I don't buy this premise. There is no way billionaires care about the continuance of people or they wouldn't be doing everything in their power to make existing a pointless endeavor.

My guess is, on some base level, they know that people are still needed or their money pile has no value. They want the people's money, but not the people. They want mindless consumers, not conscientious customers. Customers make spending decisions. Consumers buy indiscriminately.
 
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Data centers in space sure is a persistent one, it sounds even dumber than the harvesting power and sending it back to earth (through mirrors, microwaves or lasers) ideas to me. Because you know, getting rid of heat in space is an issue, as is maintenance, upgrades, space radiation and the big one - the cost of getting stuff there.

Considering Musk made his fortune by telling half truths and seems to be a big fan of ketamine I don't pay much attention to what he says.

Not to mention who knows! It could be turned into a gigantic space weapon! Didn't anyone ever see the James Bond movie "Die Another Day"? 🤣
 
This is the kind of conclusion any one of us might draw, provided we were snorting ketamine, while masturbating, and watching "Free Jack", simultaneously. :rolleyes:

Now that's what I would classify as, "extreme multitasking**". (y) (Y)

** More commonly categorized as, "paranoid delusions of grandeur".;)🤣
 
Billionaires already have access and can afford advanced biomechanical maintenance that flushes senescence cells that are dying but not being removed, hormone and stem cell therapy, on a regular schedule.

Elon doesn't look like he's a fitness buff. But, that also helps with a balanced, and tasty, diet.

They can throw all the money to the problem they want, inevitably they will die anyway. And likely more painful then others do.

Life has a price: death. Can't cheat it.
 
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