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GeoHot on Sony PS3 hacking lawsuit: "beating them in court is just a start"

By Emil · 21 replies
Feb 25, 2011
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  1. PlayStation 3 jailbreaker George Hotz, also known as GeoHot, was recently on The Alyona Show. When asked about whether he thinks the whole issue will blow over and whether he has a chance to beat Sony in court, GeoHot responded with the following:

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  2. andreasf93

    andreasf93 TS Rookie Posts: 25

  3. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,007   +18

    "He has reportedly covered his legal costs and then some in just two days of donations."

    then some = pot and pizza.
  4. GunsAblazin

    GunsAblazin TS Enthusiast Posts: 75

    I have a feeling this won't blow over any time soon after his rants get out. There must be a lot of hackers out there that want to keep him out of jail. That money will dry up soon though because Sony has bottomless pockets and he would be the perfect example for Sony.
  5. treetops

    treetops TS Evangelist Posts: 2,261   +361

    I still think hes a fool for not doing it anonymously.
  6. ramonsterns

    ramonsterns TS Enthusiast Posts: 744   +12

    Hope he wins.

    Teach the bigger corporations not to prod the little men who buy their stuff.
  7. foreverzero89

    foreverzero89 TS Enthusiast Posts: 211

    it's not like he did anything illegal OR immoral. sony is just pissed and is now looking for something to take their anger out on.
  8. mattfrompa

    mattfrompa TS Evangelist Posts: 575   +73

    We need more intelligent people willing to stand up for consumers like GeoHot. I really hope he wins.
  9. IvanAwfulitch

    IvanAwfulitch TS Booster Posts: 218   +11

    I think that what Sony and other corporations don't understand is that by trying to ensure they get their fill of our money they're violating their customers.

    Our personal freedoms wouldn't be at risk if consoles didn't need to be hacked.
    Consoles wouldn't necessarily be hacked if pirated games had never existed.
    Pirated games would never have existed if they weren't so ****ing expensive.
    Games wouldn't be so expensive if they didn't try to grease their pockets so much.

    There are a couple of other factors that enter the picture with wanting to jailbreak a device, but for the most part, this is how I view it. I can understand wanting to have a decent profit margin. Money to cover development costs, manufacturing, paying their employees, whatever. But raising prices to extortionist levels is criminal. Sony is no better in that respect than any other major company. They are like M$. If M$ had their way, nobody would use anything but Windows OSes, nobody would be able to hack it, nobody would be able to use it in any way except how they specified, etc etc. It's the same with Sony.

    I hope this guy wins too.
  10. krayzie

    krayzie TS Rookie Posts: 62

    why do we use the term jail break on on apple products??
  11. foreverzero89

    foreverzero89 TS Enthusiast Posts: 211

    because apple has their **** on such a tight lock down, like a jail.
  12. bugejakurt

    bugejakurt TS Booster Posts: 158   +15

    GeoHot indirectly told sony to employ him....
  13. andy06shake

    andy06shake TS Evangelist Posts: 486   +158

    F**K Sony! Support GeoHot. Death 2 NWO and all supporting corporations!!!
  14. example1013

    example1013 TS Enthusiast Posts: 263

    Maybe he wanted all the attention? I mean, this guy's now famous and has the support of masses of "free console usage" drones, who were more than willing to send him money for "legal fees".

    Think about it. The root key hack has no 100% fix, because Sony can't change the root key, and thus can only attack the software, rather than the source. So GeoHot already got what he wanted, because Sony can't stop homebrewers from running custom code.

    So why release the code immediately and publicly, before Sony has a chance to secure PSN and make sure hackers can't screw up online gaming? Really, I'd like to know what possible reason there could be for not waiting until Sony has a workaround to keep online play stable and fair, that doesn't involve garnering lots of attention and allowing pirates and hackers to wreak havoc on PSN.
  15. I wanna know what's the main tactic to getting everybody's ip addresses. Are they looking to file suit with everyone or ban them from the playstation network.
  16. Sony has every right to sue Hotz, and has the right to obtain the IP addresses of those who visited Hortz’s website.

    To see why I am right:
  17. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,648   +1,879

    The DMCA is unconstitutional in and of itself. People shouldn't be treated like this, it's appalling that anyone can take sony's side. I shouldn't be too surprised at how dumb people are, we did vote for bush twice... I would also like to see other sources. I can find anyone saying anything on the internet, doesn't mean it's true. Find me a vetted source, not a blog.
  18. I agree with geohotz because now "if he wins" sony consumers will boycott sony products and sony will cry like babys
  19. when u think something is unconstitutional u have to take the right steps in taking the law off the books. if u brake that law to show how its unconstitiutional ur still breaking the law.

    i think pot should be legal, but if i get caught smoking i still go to jail.

    and besides distributing copyrighted material is illegal, the rootkeys are copyrighted, so he committed a crime, doesnt matter if the DCMA is unconstitutional or not.
  20. it is an open question as to whether a few digit number is considered 'copyrightable'. it would make all sorts of things 'copyright' that are not, like say, a 7 colored flag that happens to have the same color codes (when used on an Red-Green-Blue digital representation) as the number.

    And then, every multiple of those colors would also be illegal, and then the reverse version, also illegal, and various arrangements such as patterns or bubble graphs, also illegal. It is a very controversial precedent.
  21. Pretty hard to copyright a number with no deliberate structure other than the fact that it's _random_...
  22. Lokalaskurar

    Lokalaskurar TS Enthusiast Posts: 514

    Even though I think GeoHot is right, I still claim he's more of a cracker and not a hacker. He's a bit of a disgrace to the hacker-community regarding the so-called "hacker-code" and whatnot. Still, he's totally wonderful regarding his self-confidence and his position against lager corporations. Freedom will win, and that's why he will prevail. If not in the courtroom, then at least in the hacker community members' hearts and minds.

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