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Google sues US government for only considering Microsoft

By Emil ยท 43 replies
Nov 2, 2010
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  1. Google has filed a suit against the United States government for only considering Microsoft solutions when looking at options to improve their messaging functionality, according to TechDirt. Google Apps was not on the government's table and the search giant is arguing that restricting the Request for Quotation (RFQ), a document asking companies to design a solution and quote a price, to Microsoft is "unduly restrictive of competition."

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  2. Prosercunus

    Prosercunus TS Maniac Posts: 258   +105

    What? You can sue over something as stupid? That is interesting.
  3. frodough

    frodough TS Rookie Posts: 90

    i thought when big companies dont get what they want they simply throw money at it or throw money at lobbyists to make it better
  4. hassaan

    hassaan TS Rookie Posts: 90

    Despite the image, from the article it looks that the bid was actually about email systems. And if you compare MS Exchange to Gmail, MS is a failure feature-wise.
  5. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,937   +3,309

    What exactly would a court filing look like for something like this; "our monopoly's better than their monopoly"? :rolleyes:

    Or maybe, "we're pissed because we didn't think of stifling competition first"?
  6. hassaan

    hassaan TS Rookie Posts: 90

  7. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,633   +97

    You are comparing oranges with apples here, gmail is pretty much irrelevant on most corporate networks; so next time make a comment which make some logical sense.

    Probably, or it will be something like this 'give us all the information you have, so we can put it in something cloudy (allowing anyone with brains and enough time to crack and get all info what they want) ........ and it will be (un)safe in our hands.

    Also, I think generally (corporate / governments) buyers tends to tilt towards vendors/suppliers who have already worked with them or provided them services earlier on, so in my view the decision by US Govt (involved department/agency) make sense.

    On the other hand, I think it will be good contest as taking things to court won't bother MS much as that is where they've spent most of their time in last few years. So, perhaps, soon we may see something filed against google just to drain its resource, as obviously google doesn't have as much cash reserves as does MS.
  8. flocka

    flocka TS Rookie Posts: 40

  9. flocka

    flocka TS Rookie Posts: 40

    Take away Outlook from users in the governmet and you will have another civil war.
    every contract i've worked on for DOD, DOE, DOT, Microsoft Exchange server Requires at least a %98.00 availability rate to its users or that company is going to blow a HUGE SLA.
  10. Xero07

    Xero07 TS Booster Posts: 100

    How do you argue someone didn't consider something? how much debate over something must there be before something is considered to have been considered?
  11. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,633   +97

    Well the real question is ..... why would someone create a mess by deploying something new in their infrastructure, which may not work with the existing systems, hence wastage of time and money. Every update or new implementation in such environment requires lots of planning, test runs etc., and ultimately the cost effectiveness along with ease of deployment. Frankly, I've done this a lot of times during my days as head of IT department for my employer. Being a dictator can have their plus sides .... when you need them ;)
  12. I'm going to sue every retail store in the country for not considering selling my product.
  13. spyx

    spyx TS Rookie Posts: 57

    Hmmmmm, considering the one who is suing i would say the Goverment might lose this one :) ....but it does seem like a reasonable thing to do, I hope they dont go overboard....
  14. sMILEY4ever

    sMILEY4ever TS Booster Posts: 157

    I agree. No matter which one is right, they'll both remain strong.
  15. high five!!!
  16. mpribe

    mpribe TS Enthusiast Posts: 31

    No bid contracts? Never . . .
  17. treeski

    treeski TS Evangelist Posts: 1,005   +244

    If there is something Google didn't offer that was required, I don't see how there is any potential argument.
  18. DOI had cited security reasons in regard to choosing Microsoft over Google, yet
    Google has passed the government's FISMA security certification while Microsoft has not.

    Unless you've lived under a rock for the past decade , you know that
    as relates to security , giving users Microsoft products is akin to
    giving a drowning man a cement life vest.

    The law requires competitive bidding, and tailoring a RFP to a specific and in this case deficient
    vendor is a violation of that law. Google is correct to sue, and indeed should win that suit with ease.
  19. fadownjoo

    fadownjoo TS Rookie Posts: 49

    wether they win or not, google just got some good advertising with ths case.
  20. EDO219

    EDO219 TS Rookie Posts: 212

    I find it highly unlikely that Google will win this lawsuit, but if they do, then what exactly would be the legal precedent that this would set? Could companies within the private sectors sue potential partners for not properly considering their products and services, or would such a precedent only apply to the public sectors?
  21. manintech

    manintech TS Rookie Posts: 46

    Since when google starts suing other people? They are being sued in almost every country
  22. pheonixnexus

    pheonixnexus TS Rookie Posts: 17

    the US should have contacted everyone (Microsoft and Google) who makes the product (mail service in this case) get a description of what the have or can make and price quote. choose one based on price, how good it is and if it meets their requirements.

    In other words the government is required BY LAW to give companies a chance to offer products and then select the best for the price

    from what the article say it seem Google feels it wasn't considered fairly and is suing for money it could have gotten from the contract. although the article also mentions Google didn't have a "GSA schedule contract" apparently something they consider necessary to sell to the US Government.

    Google just might have enough grounds to sue

    IAMTHESTIG TS Evangelist Posts: 1,559   +671

    I work for a state government agency... and we use a lot of Microsoft products, including Exchange. We don't even want to consider using an web-based e-mail solution hosted by a company. Information security is high priority in government, and having your entire email communication system hosted by a company is not considered a safe option. The government would not have control over its data, Google would... That would mean there is the potential of someone hacking, or even more likely a google employee or employee of one of their data centers accessing government e-mails.

    Now if google could offer their service in a stand-alone software package that could be installed and controlled on government hardware, in a government datacenter, then I could see the potential of google being considered.
  24. ruzveh

    ruzveh Banned Posts: 123

    Why to fight man. Love each other
  25. Recipe7

    Recipe7 TS Booster Posts: 143

    Keeping their data strictly on Microsoft really narrows their capability to promote safety and security of their information. It's best they should outsource and look for companies that have a good track record of safeguarding information. From the way I see it, the most important information is on hardcopy, so there shouldn't be toooo much risk.

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