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Huawei can't use microSD cards now either

By mongeese · 40 replies
May 25, 2019
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  1. In case you’ve been under a rock lately, an executive order determined to kick Huawei off the face of the Earth banned all US companies from doing business with the Chinese firm, including big names like Google, Microsoft, Qualcomm, Intel, and Broadcom.

    That means no Android, Play Store, Windows or all the essential chips that go into smartphones and laptops. Notably, though, Huawei has also been “temporarily restricted” from the Wi-Fi Alliance, which controls Wi-Fi standards; cut off from ARM, who licenses key design aspects of Huawei’s Kirin processors; and they’ve also voluntarily left JEDEC, which defines RAM specifications.

    Huawei is in a world of pain.

    But there is a bright side: they happen to have already built a microSD competitor; you can already buy it. ‘Nano Memory Cards’ use more or less the same internal hardware as microSD cards do, just in the Nano SIM form factor. They can be dropped into compatible Nano SIM slots in Huawei devices just like inserting a microSD card into a SIM/microSD slot.

    Their specs are competitive, too, available in standard sizes such as 128GB and 256GB with read speeds of 90 MB/s. The only issue is the price, which is horrifically triple that of an equivalent microSD card. Business is business, I suppose. Losing access to the microSD ecosystem is hardly Huawei’s (or their customer’s) biggest problem right now.

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  2. David Belkin

    David Belkin TS Enthusiast Posts: 46   +41

    Interesting how the world purports to be anti Trump, but all seem to obey and do as he commands by sabotaging Huawei, all coz they're way ahead in developing 5G.

    xxLCxx and treetops like this.
  3. kombu

    kombu TS Addict Posts: 86   +178

    Interesting how some people form their political opinions by watching the comedy channel.
  4. David Belkin

    David Belkin TS Enthusiast Posts: 46   +41

    Interesting what happens when companies other than American, become leaders in the field.
  5. kapital98

    kapital98 TS Guru Posts: 324   +256

    There are serious national security concern pre-dating Trump. Most people were upset that Trump let ZTE off lightly (after they had been caught, twice, illegally selling technology to Iran and North Korea).

    As a counterpoint, you didn't see this degree of hostility when Japan led many telecommunication fields during the 90's and 00's. Nor do we currently see it with South Korea. Keep in mind, it is Japan (5g tech) and Korea (smartphones) which benefit the most from these restrictions in the short-term.
  6. poohbear

    poohbear TS Maniac Posts: 282   +201

    lol have u ever been to China? They copy everything & its all overseen by a ruthless authoritarian government. When I worked there expats there on business were livid when their Chinese partners stole their ideas and tech and then shut them out. I heard this over and over from extremely frustrated expats trying to do business there. Every company in China is beholden to the government, and Huwaei is the technology arm of that government. Now, when that government is a dictatorship, how can u defend them?

    Furthermore, for Techspot to ask "When will it stop" followed by "facepalm", how naive are your editors?? Are you against this disarming of Huawei? You're against containing a ruthless government that puts its dissidents in internment camps?(the Xinjiang internment camps in western China) How can you possibly defend such a government? Xi Jinping effectively made himself leader for life as he passed legislation wherein nobody can replace him or oppose him. Can you please be neutral reporter of tech news, instead of peppering your uninformed political opinions in your reporting? If I wanted political opinions, id be reading the Economist, New York Times, and a host of other political sources, not Techspot. Stick to Tech please.

    I'm a Canadian liberal, I dislike Trump, but completely in support of the drive to contain the Chinese communist government and its technology branches. Are people so simplistic to see things in black and white? Either you're against trump or for him? lol so naive, and quite frankly shows a person's thinking is void of any wisdom or life experience.
    Last edited: May 25, 2019
  7. poohbear

    poohbear TS Maniac Posts: 282   +201

    Huh? Japan and south Korea are democracies, they do NOT threaten or bully their neighbors. Are you missing the bigger geo-political picture?? this is NOT just about technology, it's about containing a ruthless government hell bent on crushing anything resembling democracy. Look at Tiananmen square, Hong Kong, the Xinjiang internment camps, not to mention the Mao Cultural "revolution" that killed 60-70 million Chinese. This is a government that is an extension of that, and blocks any reference or search to "Mao atrocities", "democracy", "revolution", and "tiananmen square".

    Why do you think Google and Facebook are blocked from China? Because they refused to block thousands of search terms the government didn't want. Especially Facebook, which was instrumental in the Egyptian revolution happening.
    Last edited: May 25, 2019
    Godel, Reehahs, p51d007 and 3 others like this.
  8. kapital98

    kapital98 TS Guru Posts: 324   +256

    @poohbear: I've heard the same thing from numerous people who live in china for multiple years. There is usually no issue for the people who go there for a year to teach english. But for anyone who wants to own capital and make a successful business? It always ends up badly. Whatever they make gets slowly taken over by locals who then give a fraction of it's value for it (same goes for houses and other property in general).

    But I don't think the current trend against China is in basically any way coordinated. The current tariffs make no sense. The geopolitical factors are extremely complicated (such as us using China as a buffer for North Korean aggression). China has a very complicated culture of secret societies and the concept of nationalism is still relatively new. The government is not nearly as monolithic as you're trying to make it look. But that's a very long, complicated discussion.
    Evernessince likes this.
  9. EClyde

    EClyde TS Evangelist Posts: 1,805   +665

    Cut the Chinese off at the knees
    TheBigT42, Wendig0 and p51d007 like this.
  10. treetops

    treetops TS Evangelist Posts: 2,497   +514

    The true face of capitalism. Until we stop legal bribes to our politicians via lobbying and campaign contributions corruption will remain rampant. Oh it's ok because their Chinese? Are they really so bad? Who buys their sweat shop products? No one cares about that. Oh yeah that's right, no one gets rich by eliminating sweat shops.

    Your smart phone was made in China... The "security" concern is just smoke and mirrors. It's all about the money.
    rackhir, Lounds and xxLCxx like this.
  11. toooooot

    toooooot TS Evangelist Posts: 754   +372

    All you say wont matter after a dictatorships like China has all the market in addition to our factories and tech they already stole. Suckers are milking us to death. It is a crime that previous presidents allowed this to go for so long. Western rulers are to blame the same as China because they ALLOWED this to happen.

    Now not only another culture is profiting of this, it is a psychopathic cancer struck communist regime that is milking western world to death. This is death crippling on our economies. If you dont see that, maybe you should read more about it. This is a disaster that will hit harder than our national debt.
    Darth Shiv and p51d007 like this.
  12. treetops

    treetops TS Evangelist Posts: 2,497   +514

    Yeah maybe we can turn the tables, bring those 35 hour shift .31 cent an hour factory jobs back to America. Damn Chinese have had it way to good.
  13. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,858   +2,167

    Those job exist because of people wanting cheaper electronics regardless of human cost. Take those jobs out of China ismt necessarily about bringing them back to the US, it's about how the human cost of child slaves killing themselves isn't included in the price of your iPhone
  14. toooooot

    toooooot TS Evangelist Posts: 754   +372

    Who said those jobs are 31 cents per hour? Old greedy f$%ck who will never have enough money and would rather see his fellow country men go into poverty rather then doing something for society he want to live in?
    When brought back to states, old scumbag's goods have to be taxed so much that he would lose much more than he saved on those 31 cent jobs.
    Then of course, he shared his wealth with the right governing prostitutes to make sure they never do this.
    Rich scumbags are bankrupting this country. They dont care that we are walking to the edge. They don't care that our children might be working seven days a week for a minimum wage job.
    Those aren't 31 cent jobs. Those are the jobs that each one of us getting robbed with as soon as these products cross our border and go to walmart.
    I have written negative things about Chinese government here in the past.
    But that doesn't mean I refuse to see that the worse and even more responsible for our nation getting poor is here, living with us in the same country sucking blood from honest men and women.
    F%#ck them! This is the reason there are revolutions. This as a slow process that can easily be seen by reading history. This is how greed refuses to see the common sense.
    Like a hungry beast it eats everything around until it finds it tail, and slowly devouring itself unable to stop.
    It has been too long. There must be a change and punishment for all the companies that
    ship the jobs abroad but are not willing to leave rich market here.
    xxLCxx likes this.
  15. Knot Schure

    Knot Schure TS Addict Posts: 252   +109

    **** COMMENT OF THE DAY ****
  16. Knot Schure

    Knot Schure TS Addict Posts: 252   +109

    I did ask a few months back, if this was the correct platform for politcal dicussions, and given some of the view points I've seen, the answer is not clear that it is.
    kombu likes this.
  17. Jeff Schmidt

    Jeff Schmidt TS Addict Posts: 101   +87

    No one mentions all the patents we have that China blatantly rips off to make knock off products. I imagine Huawei stole some of those through the use of the spying that happens through there products.
    p51d007 likes this.
  18. Knot Schure

    Knot Schure TS Addict Posts: 252   +109

    It is not just our leaders... BMW took a car company to court, in China, for copying the X5 - AND LOST.

    I have seen that car, its a bloody X5!

    So the corruption goes wide and deep.
    Darth Shiv and p51d007 like this.
  19. treetops

    treetops TS Evangelist Posts: 2,497   +514

    You're right 31 cents an hour working 35 hour shifts how dare they go and replicate our products! Their factories even supply them with free suicide nets! We should take our business to India or Taiwan, surely they will uphold our patents. Heck maybe we should throw in another penny per hour for the new Indian workers to show the Chinese what's what.
  20. Proposition Joe

    Proposition Joe TS Rookie

    How is Google or Apple any different from what Huawei has allegedly done.? Goggle didn't become a multi billion $ company on good will. They have been stealing and selling peoples data for years...
    this is obviously more of a political move then anything else....

    US vs China
    xxLCxx likes this.
  21. gamerk2

    gamerk2 TS Maniac Posts: 245   +157

    Consumer chose to purchase foreign produced products that are of similar quality but cost less them American produced ones. That's Capitalism.

    Any act that increases American production is going to involve higher prices all around. And the past 250 years or so should also show wages won't follow those price increases. So that means less "stuff" for all of us.

    You're really looking at a long term economic problem: As automation and the continued drive for lower production costs continue to reduce the number of well paying jobs, what is society going to do about it? That's one reason why many countries are at least running experiments on Universal Basic Incomes. But long term? There's going to be a *massive* job crunch.
    xxLCxx likes this.
  22. rub900

    rub900 TS Booster Posts: 92   +21

    Better than watching Foxnews.
  23. OortCloud

    OortCloud TS Maniac Posts: 229   +109

    We will never know if this Huawei stuff is purely commercial/trade war tit for tat or genuine as Donald Trump is in office and who knows whats going on in that head...
  24. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,958   +576

    And they have been sued for it at tremendous cost.
  25. Loadedaxe

    Loadedaxe TS Rookie

    China! the new North Korea.

    Its amazing how blind people are to China's dictatorship.
    The world would be a better place if we all stopped buying China made products.
    wiyosaya likes this.

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