ive seen this posted before, but none of the posters pc specs are like mine, or the solution has been tried before. i have a p4 e-class dual core with twin dual core 2 gig ram chips, so i know my pc isnt to slow. ie 7 takes about a minute to load, (just displays connecting in the tab) then takes annoyingly long to load each page, usually about 15 to 30 sec, depending on the page. Iv checked by isp and im clocking 2.5 mps out and just over 1 mps in, but, although i know dsl isnt the fastest there is, it used to load MUCH faster then this. i already turned off ALL add-ons, cleared cache, temp files, ect, everything but my passwords, didnt effect it at all. i also have netscape, works fine but gets stuck after 10 minutes or so and i have to ctrl/alt/del to close it, and i hate opera. i have all updates and nothing is malfunctioning in the device manager. im not a windows nexb by ANY strech of the term, having been using and working on pc's since before they even had hard drives, but this ones got me scratching the hair off my head in one spot. please help, because i dont have much left, and if this keeps up ill be bald in a year, lol. EDIT: i should also add that mcafee has been removed and the only other internet related service running is stopzilla. and even though i dont use a vs, i fervently make sure im virus free. so far ive never had one on this pc since i built it jan 2007.