Intel acknowledges Chrome and Edge issues on Alder Lake processors, offers fixes

[CowsGotMilk]

CPU temps are going to be quite dependent on laptop case design and cooling capacity, period. Did they try an equivalent AMD CPU under the same conditions? probably not.

Just check out a video. All Intel 12th gen CPUs are based on 10nm lithography, so you don't have to be a fanboy, to understand that are designed to boil water or cook eggs for bonus.

 

[captaincranky]

Just check out a video. All Intel 12th gen CPUs are based on 10nm lithography, so you don't have to be a fanboy, to understand that are designed to boil water or cook eggs for bonus.

First of all, I'm going to competently dismiss the issue with the laptop cooling. Yes, Intel CPUs get hot. However, that's on the OEM and system integrators to deal with before hand, not after they design a really too thin, too spiffy, case, (maybe even with flashing lights), to put them in.

If you want to drag up the 10 nm Intel process width versus AMD's 8 nm. I give full credit for that to >>TSMC <<..!!, Since if it weren't for >> TSMC >> >>AMD<<, would be out of business. Not to mention that .for almost a decade, AMD was the brunt of all the "space heater" jokes.

While the i9-12900 does run hot and uses more power, it also trounces the best Zen CPU out there. Deal with it.. I know, I know, "wait until fall when the next gen AMDs come out", blah, blah, blah.....

Besides the craptop owners, the primary complainants out there are gamers and overclockers, who BTW think, the world revolves around them. IMO, it doesn't. You'd think they would have caught on to that, when the GPU manufacturers sold all their cards to the miners. "Oh please, please Mr. Scalper, I don't care how many multiples of MSRP I have to give you for that video card, I'm jonesin' bad, real real, bad".

News flash, new CPUs are practically overclocked from the factory. it's not like the old days when you could run an Core 2 Duo E 6300 at practically double the stock speed. In fact, you could get maybe 500 Mhz out of the lowest binned chip. You know, the bin that was practically sitting right next to that trash can You wanted more speed, they gave it to you. But it's never enough, is it? When you run out of complaints.... never mind, you never do or will.

So, how about if we strike a deal, you tell your jokes, and I'll tell mine?.

 

[CowsGotMilk]

If you want to drag up the 10 nm Intel process width versus AMD's 8 nm.

Mate, get your facts straight... AMD uses 6nm lithography and next will be 5nm.

Since if it weren't for >> TSMC >> >>AMD<<, would be out of business.

Yeah, right... "No factory, no products"... Isn't that obvious?

 

[captaincranky]

Mate, get your facts straight... AMD uses 6nm lithography and next will be 5nm.

And TSMC will be cooking that too. So, when you come right down to it, AMD is basically a reseller, but with a great design staff. Berhinger (music electronics), is like that too. They always go out of their way to stress their stuff, "is designed on Germany". At the end of the day though, if it weren't for cheap Chinese labor, they wouldn't be able to low ball their prices the way they do. Hell, at least some of Intel's shoddy garbage is made in the US. .

Yeah, right... "No factory, no products"... Isn't that obvious?

Apparently not to you. As I understand it, AMD had to (or decided to ??) sell their fabs. So, the fact remains, if TSMC didn't cook their chips, they'd still be pushing out that old time hot running, power sucking garbage they were selling. Let's face facts, (since you seem to be so concerned with them), the only thing "Bulldozer" could roll over, is your pride and your wallet.

I think you misunderstand me, I'm not a fan of Intel. (**). I do always build with them because I know the parts numbers and they always seem to work for years and years/ (The machine I'm on is from Q'2 '09). It, "ran hot once", because the overheat alarm was set at 50 C . But then again, it's never been tested on some fantasy battlefield in cyberspace either.

(**) I'm just not a fan of AMD fanbois.

 

[CowsGotMilk]

And TSMC will be cooking that too. So, when you come right down to it, AMD is basically a reseller, but with a great design staff. Berhinger (music electronics), is like that too. They always go out of their way to stress their stuff, "is designed on Germany". At the end of the day though, if it weren't for cheap Chinese labor, they wouldn't be able to low ball their prices the way they do. Hell, at least some of Intel's shoddy garbage is made in the US. .

Apparently not to you. As I understand it, AMD had to (or decided to ??) sell their fabs. So, the fact remains, if TSMC didn't cook their chips, they'd still be pushing out that old time hot running, power sucking garbage they were selling. Let's face facts, (since you seem to be so concerned with them), the only thing "Bulldozer" could roll over, is your pride and your wallet.

I think you misunderstand me, I'm not a fan of Intel. (**). I do always build with them because I know the parts numbers and they always seem to work for years and years/ (The machine I'm on is from Q'2 '09). It, "ran hot once", because the overheat alarm was set at 50 C . But then again, it's never been tested on some fantasy battlefield in cyberspace either.

(**) I'm just not a fan of AMD fanbois.

Mate, does it really matter who is the owner of the fab, until the owner keeps it under high standards? Apple uses same TSMC factories and their products are defining the new standards in CPU world, does it make CPUs not good enough, cause they choose most economically effective solutions, instead of building its own factory? AMD is engineering the product, TSMC is just providing the tools to build it.