After looking at the flagship Core i9 on launch date, this time we're reviewing the more mainstream Core i7-12700KF which is meant to do battle against AMD's Ryzen 7 5800X at around $450.
After looking at the flagship Core i9 on launch date, this time we're reviewing the more mainstream Core i7-12700KF which is meant to do battle against AMD's Ryzen 7 5800X at around $450.
I doubt it because there's usually a big difference between "can they" optimize and "should they" optimize. Past what you mention of the core count of the consoles right now there's also other reasons why they probably shouldn't.Wonder if games will get more thread-heavy in the next couple years. They still have to target the consoles with their 8-core Zen 2s after all
Yep, best time to buy hardware especially GPUs will be in the next crypto bear market. Maybe sometime next year or 2023.I doubt it because there's usually a big difference between "can they" optimize and "should they" optimize. Past what you mention of the core count of the consoles right now there's also other reasons why they probably shouldn't.
It's not as simple as saying "Ok get better performance on more cores now" This is like say, building a house. You've got a size for the house you need so for 1 person to build it that would take 3 months, fair enough. Add more people? 2 persons probably can manage 45 days. 3 people can manage 30 days good. This might keep going until you reach say, about 10 people: once you have maybe 2 or 3 people on each major task, you can't just bring more people in
You could, but people start getting in the way of each other. You now need 15 people plus 1 or 2 that need to just coordinate the teams and even that's not guaranteed: there is such a thing as the maximum amount of people on any one task and once you reach that number, adding more people even if you could, just wont help.
So it's not as simple as saying "Well have your game use more available cores for more tasks" it becomes really, really expensive and difficult to do and it's probably not worth it.
It would feel like the equivalent of inventing new materials, new construction methods even new civil engineering principles just to build a single house or group of houses faster. It can be done but it's unlikely to ever happen at that level.
That being said you gotta think that at least 1 full year but more likely 2 to 2.5 years of supply problems for the AAA PC Gaming market will have an effect. It's not immediate but companies know that even if they were hessitant of all the above points before this crisis, now that they expect gaming PC sales to at the very least slow down if not start regressing well that's gotta be on their minds. Specially because there's not a single thing being done to not only stop this from happening but to prevent it from happening in the future: it truly is looking that PC gamers might only get like 6 months or a year to get decent prices on hardware in between cycles of crypto currency expansion where they go 2 years without buying new hardware.
yeah, or wait a bit for the V-cache RyzensI could drive to my local Micro Center store and purchase a 5800X for $300.
Or I could spend $500 for 5900X.
Or I could spend $450 for a 12700K.
I'd skip on the 5800X and it would be a toss up between the 5900X and the 12700K - it would come down to what else is available for purchase to fill my needs. You couldn't really go wrong with either option.
Lol I think an AMD price drop is imminent.
Canada:
5950X (in stock) - $1039
12900K (minimal stock) - $749
5800X (in stock) - $619 / $499 sale price
12700K (in stock) - $529
12700KF (not in stock yet) - $499
12600K (in stock) - $369
12600KF (not in stock yet) - $329
If buying a system now, I'd go ADL, because X570 is dead as in no Zen 4 support.
These Alder Lake chips are quite impressive for what they are. But that was to be expected considering the new node and large die.
Intel really is using their clock speed advantage here, and it shows. I don't see AMD getting anywhere near 5ghz with the Zen3 refresh, so don't expect a AMD to make a comeback on single thread performance quite yet. That will have to happen with Zen 4, which is a major overhaul.
I am a little disappointed in game performance uptick. It really doesn't match the jump in other categories. DDR5 does bring some nice gains in minimum framerate in some titles, but hardly worth the cost. While Intel may have taken back the gaming crown, it isn't by much and this is one area that the Zen 3 refresh may actually favor. So the gaming crown win may be a very short lived accomplishment by intel.
At least Intel has improved the Performance per watt, it was looking pretty bad. Intel is stepping up their core count game that is for sure.
Intel will have pretty much a year lead for everything other than gaming it looks like. I wonder how the mobile chips turn out for Alder Lake.