Intel Core i9-9900KS Review: Limited Special Edition

More honest? Like what kind of oxymoron is that? You are either honest or you are not.

3900x is using up to 220w whilst its TDP is rated at 105w.
Same with 2700x, up to 180w
Same with 1800x and 1700x, up to 200w.

Update your knowledge and don't follow the herd.
I assume you are quoting numbers from the tech spot review - the 224 W number is total system consumption.

Anandtech show a max package power consumption of 142W for Ryzen 3900x (rated at 105W) vs 244 W for the 9900k (rated at 95W).

2700x has a max consumption of 117W (rated at 105W), Core i7-7700k 95W (rated at 91W), so yes, there is a difference.
 
Density is irrelevant in this case. I seriously have no idea why are pushing this argument, especially when CPUs limit the max operating temps anyway. And sure, density went up, but power usage went down. It's why you see the 100W difference.

In this particular case, for AMD the boxed cooler is enough and you can't put the same cooler on this CPU and expect anything less than a broken mess because of thermal throttling.

FYI die area is extremely important for heat dissipation.

You're still not differentiating between heat and temperature. Maybe I'm pushing this point because I actually understand the basics?
 
The basics... ok dude. You can go on understanding them while us mortals will die in ignorance.

I guess some people just can't admit their mistakes or correct themselves when shown the facts to them. Ego perhaps. Which is a great deterrent to progress.
 
I guess some people just can't admit their mistakes or correct themselves when shown the facts to them. Ego perhaps. Which is a great deterrent to progress.

It's more like I studied physics for ten years and this is something a first year engineering student understands. There is nothing controversial about the statement that, given the same cooling (I figured this was understood, but I guess not), AMD's chips can run hotter while consuming less power.
 
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