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H3llion

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That wasn't the question. Which major religion other than Islam explicitly instructs its followers to convert or kill?
In modern Society most "rational believers" are simply not like this. In previous/recent history however it's another matter. I don't know about other Religions because I don't have time for any of them, however whether it's "Forced Conversion" or Sacrificial Offerings it's irrelevant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_conversion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_conversion
http://christianity-revealed.com/cr/files/converttochristianityordie.html

Every Religion needs to f* off ideally.

Terrorism isn't a direct product of Religion. While it may play part there are many other variables to take into account such as surrounding conditions during early years of development (lack of education, role models, healthy environment) and of course brainwashing .
 
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Ebotnf

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The Quran and the Bible are both products of their time. There are many stories and parables that belong to the period, but are adopted by fundamentalists and extremists to support their cause.

You can not take a few violent verses from the Quran at random as their historical context is very clear and evident multiple times. Read the entire Chapter and see what it relates to.
 
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psycros

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davislane1

In modern Society most "rational believers" are simply not like this.
It appears modern society disagrees with you:

https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2015/06/23/nationwide-poll-of-us-muslims-shows-thousands-support-shariah-jihad/
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/625545/Donald-Trump-Muslims-speech-British-police-ISIS-radicalisation-London

Goes for pretty much every single damned Religion out there.
I don't know about other Religions because I don't have time for any of them
Either you know the subject matter or you don't. Pick one.
 
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psycros

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If a muslim is TRUE TO THEIR FAITH, follows their koran, then YES, all muslims are terrorists.
Goes for pretty much every single damned Religion out there. Modern Society=/=Outdated "holy" book.
Nope. But nice try. Well, actually, no, it was a pretty sad attempt at moral equivalency.
 

psycros

TS Evangelist
If you think most terrorists are Muslims, then you are a tool or just a coward.

Since 9/11, the terrorist attack were 3 buildings were miraculously knocked down by two airplanes, 33 Americans have died as a result of terrorism launched by Muslims. During that period, 180,000 Americans were murdered. That is %6, but you already know that you tools.
Congrats, you may be the most retarded and/or dishonest person to ever post on Techspot.
 
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wiyosaya

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Articles like these sure bring out the people who are incapable of thinking for themselves, make comments as if they are experts on certain religions when they have no rightful standing as an expert for except what they have been told to think by another right-wing extremist, and sure bring out the 'Mericans where the religious freedom this country was founded on applies only if your religion is some derivative of christian.

sarcasm Yes, there sure are a lot of patriots on this site. /sarcasm
 
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davislane1

Articles like these sure bring out the people who are incapable of thinking for themselves
Launches ad hominem attack claiming badthinkers can't think for themselves.

make comments as if they are experts on certain religions when they have no rightful standing as an expert
Asserts, IN THE SAME SENTENCE, that non-experts (whatever that is) have no right to have their own thoughts on the subject matter.

this country was founded on applies only if your religion is some derivative of christian.
Brings up a non-issue.

I believe they call that a hat trick. Well done.
 
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davislane1

Are you also voting for Donal Trump? Productivity in this thread is lacking. The force ain't with us bruvva.
Trying to change the topic won't make it go away.

1. Which major religion outside of Islam preaches convert or kill?
2. Do you even know what you're talking about?
 
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H3llion

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Trying to change the topic won't make it go away.

1. Which major religion outside of Islam preaches convert or kill?
2. Do you even know what you're talking about?
1. Which Religion does not preach violence? I have linked "Forced Conversion" previously Starting letters Ca and Ch (deviations of the same Religion tbh).
2. In what context? About Religions, don't tell me you do.

I take it by your logic my Religious friends family is going to kill me or try to convert me to Islam? They make a damn good Punjene or w/e it's called (Bosniaks).

PS: Not trying to change the topic to evade it. It's a question, take it yes tho.
 
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davislane1

I'll ask you again.

1. Which major religion outside of Islam preaches convert or kill?
2. Do you even know what you're talking about?

I'll make it very simple for you.

To answer the first question, all you have to do is cite a Christian, Buddhist, Taoist (or other major religion) doctrine that states unbelievers must be converted or killed.

To answer the second question, you simply need to respond yes or no. You either know the major characteristics and history of Islam and Christianity (the two religions relevant to the West) or you don't.

About Religions, don't tell me you do.
I've studied theology, world religion & culture, and Christian apologetics.

If you'd like, I can screen cap a college transcript to satisfy Wiyosaya's desire for "expert" credentials.
 
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H3llion

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I'll ask you again.

1. Which major religion outside of Islam preaches convert or kill?
2. Do you even know what you're talking about?

I'll make it very simple for you.

To answer the first question, all you have to do is cite a Christian, Buddhist, Taoist (or other major religion) doctrine that states unbelievers must be converted or killed.

To answer the second question, you simply need to respond yes or no. You either know the major characteristics and history of Islam and Christianity (the two religions relevant to the West) or you don't.

I've studied theology, world religion & culture, and Christian apologetics.

If you'd like, I can screen cap a college transcript to satisfy Wiyosaya's desire for "expert" credentials.
1) Already linked you it, I don't know about any other Religion because 1) I don't care for them 2) It's a giant waste of knowledge. All Religions excel at violence. I have linked you the articles.
2) I ask you again. In what context? To do with what? This subject, does it require masters degree from a Deity to make one relevant? No I am not an expert but I know enough to discuss it rationally. Which it seems, in this thread, there is not much of that from some of you.

Ah thank you. Now I see where you are coming from. I am going to end this here since it's a pointless roller coaster now.

Edit: Here you go

Old Testament, ie the "Holy Book of God"
Deuteronomy 17:
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If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die

New Testament, ie cherry picked Book of "Holyness"
Luke 19:27:
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Matthew 10:34:
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


I have thrown at you few links now, here is another. http://www.rationalchristianity.net/slay_enemies.html
 
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RustyTech

Zuckerberg is terrorism supporter then? Sad.
Not all Muslims are terrorists so to think and say so is obtuse.
And yet, most terrorists are Muslims. Kind of makes you think where all the evil is rooting from...
Not sure I would use the word "most", if 90% of terrorists are Muslim, using the word "all" would be appropriate.
Their Islamic religion is based on hate, death, and murder of the "infidels". You can sugarcoat Islam as much as you want, but it'll always be rotten at the core.
 
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RustyTech

Zuckerberg is terrorism supporter then? Sad.
Not all Muslims are terrorists so to think and say so is obtuse.
If a muslim is TRUE TO THEIR FAITH, follows their koran, then YES, all muslims are terrorists.
The koran says to kill non believers, to enslave those that don't believe, to take over the world,
that their "god" is the only god.
The USA has been fighting these people since 1785. The Marine corps hymn, says from the halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli. The Marines, were created, as a response to the Barbary pirates off the coast of Africa, who were stopping and demanding payments for save passage, because they were non muslims. The Christian crusades, often quoted as "just like the muslims" were in response to the INVASION of lands traditionally held by Christians and other non muslim practicing countries.
The temple mount, built by muslims, was on TOP OF a Jewish holy site. They traditionally build things on top of areas they take over. And, look at the destruction of history with several antique sites that were pillaged by muslims.
So, to stay true to their "faith" , yes, all muslims are terrorist.
If this world doesn't wake up, and deal with them now, they WILL get their hands on a nuke and set it off some where, which will touch off a global free for all, and destroy the world.
Perfectly said! ^^
 

H3llion

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Perfectly said! ^^
The thing is, if I was true to Catholicism or Christianity I would be spreading violence and death as well with a whole bag of contradiction. Hell there were violent Monks (Myanmar).

As I previously said, I don't advocate any of it however there has to be a neutral view on the matter as there are good people (cherry picking their own beliefs) in all Religions.
 

VitalyT

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Not sure I would use the word "most", if 90% of terrorists are Muslim, using the word "all" would be appropriate.
Their Islamic religion is based on hate, death, and murder of the "infidels". You can sugarcoat Islam as much as you want, but it'll always be rotten at the core.
I'd rather spread some mustard than sugar on it, bit too many were offended as it is. Just trying not to blow it out of proportion. :)
 

H3llion

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^ @VitalyT @RustyTech

So if 90% of Muslims are Terrorists and there are 1.6 Billion Muslims around the globe, that means 1.4 Billion of Muslims around the Globe are Terrorists? **** lads, we f*ed.

Better get Trump and the Holy Crusade of Christianity to help us.

*facedesk*

A scary statistics for the "Muslim = Terrorist" posters.
As of 2010, over 1.6 billion or about 23.4% of the world population are Muslims. By the percentage of the total population in a region considering themselves Muslim, 24.8% in Asia-Oceania do, 91.2% in the Middle East-North Africa, 29.6% in Sub-Saharan Africa, around 6.0% in Europe, and 0.6% in the Americas.

better Arm yourselfs.
 
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davislane1

Edit: Here you go

Old Testament, ie the "Holy Book of God"
Deuteronomy 17:
2
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die

New Testament, ie cherry picked Book of "Holyness"
Luke 19:27:
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Matthew 10:34:
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
The Old Testament is historical, as is Luke. They don't instruct Christians to do anything. Even a quick Google search would have revealed that much.

The passage in Matthew explains God's intent, not an instruction to Christians to wage holy war. In fact, the only instructions in that section of Matthew are for the apostles literally to spread the word.

Try again.

I am not an expert but I know enough to discuss it rationally.
Evidently not.

You claim to be able to rationally discuss subjects which you admittedly have only superficial knowledge of, using out of context quotations to support your position. That's irrational, by definition.
 
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