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Cyka Blyat

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I am muslim and I come from muslim country, and yeah here there are many case that islam have become political tools instead of being a teaching and guidance. The extremist, easy to be provoked ***** muslims in my country REALLY HATES america (US), mostly because of its involvement in palestine. Does it remind you of something? yeah just like the *****s from america and europe(mostly) to muslim, and what will happen when 2 side of ***** clash? WAR WAR and WAR. I'm tired of explaining islam is not all about violence, it's your choice whether you want to hate muslim or whatever, just beware of the consequence. Hate only bring hate.
 

EClyde

TS Evangelist
I am muslim and I come from muslim country, and yeah here there are many case that islam have become political tools instead of being a teaching and guidance. The extremist, easy to be provoked ***** muslims in my country REALLY HATES america (US), mostly because of its involvement in palestine. Does it remind you of something? yeah just like the *****s from america and europe(mostly) to muslim, and what will happen when 2 side of ***** clash? WAR WAR and WAR. I'm tired of explaining islam is not all about violence, it's your choice whether you want to hate muslim or whatever, just beware of the consequence. Hate only bring hate.
Sound like a threat....just what we expect
 
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Raoul Duke

He just doesn't want to get blown up. But then he lives in a fortress surrounded by open land staffed with security.
 
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Sagacious1

If you think most terrorists are Muslims, then you are a tool or just a coward.

Since 9/11, the terrorist attack were 3 buildings were miraculously knocked down by two airplanes, 33 Americans have died as a result of terrorism launched by Muslims. During that period, 180,000 Americans were murdered. That is %6, but you already know that you tools.
There has been many more terrorist attacks then just 9\11 u must truly be obtuse . California, Norway , Switzerland , Germany, Boston,Israel. The OSU shooter was also Muslim. Not to mention your facts are just b.s how many of the 180,000 were murders were done by Muslims? hmm The true facts are that many of the terrorist activities that the world faces today are done by Muslims which is in turn cause to be concerned . So do we turn a blind eye? do we get paranoid and lock them all up? or do we put them on a watch list? There has to be a happy medium. In America we have freedom of religion. If a person or group turns violent they should be dealt with harshly. NO ten year sentence, and then parole because the prisons are to full.No lenient sentence because the state is touchy feelly . These people that kill or try to kill multiple people should be judged by a National terrorist law. Death, or life in prison without the possibility for parole period.
 
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Billak1

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Protect "rights" or help them secure special treatment? Question: most terrorists are from what religion Mark? By the way where is the protection for the other religions that are the target for attacks and atrocities by the religion committing terror attacks around the globe?
 

Yynxs

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1) Already linked you it, I don't know about any other Religion because 1) I don't care for them 2) It's a giant waste of knowledge. All Religions excel at violence. I have linked you the articles.
2) I ask you again. In what context? To do with what? This subject, does it require masters degree from a Deity to make one relevant? No I am not an expert but I know enough to discuss it rationally. Which it seems, in this thread, there is not much of that from some of you.

Ah thank you. Now I see where you are coming from. I am going to end this here since it's a pointless roller coaster now.

Edit: Here you go

Old Testament, ie the "Holy Book of God"
Deuteronomy 17:
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If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die

New Testament, ie cherry picked Book of "Holyness"
Luke 19:27:
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Matthew 10:34:
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


I have thrown at you few links now, here is another. http://www.rationalchristianity.net/slay_enemies.html
Jesus people. It's the web. Pulling out of context doesn't work here. Luke 19:27 is part of a larger story line and was a parable, not an instruction.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-19-1_19-27/
1 And [Jesus] entered and passed through Jericho.
2 And, behold, [there was] a man named Zacchaeus, which was the chief among the publicans, and he was rich.
3 And he sought to see Jesus who he was; and could not for the press, because he was little of stature.
4 And he ran before, and climbed up into a sycomore tree to see him: for he was to pass that [way].
5 And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up, and saw him, and said unto him, Zacchaeus, make haste, and come down; for to day I must abide at thy house.
6 And he made haste, and came down, and received him joyfully.
7 And when they saw [it], they all murmured, saying, That he was gone to be guest with a man that is a sinner.
8 And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore [him] fourfold.
9 And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham.
10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.
12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this [man] to reign over us.
15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.
16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.
17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.
18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.
20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, [here is] thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:
21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.
22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, [thou] wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:
23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?
24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give [it] to him that hath ten pounds.
25 (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)
26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay [them] before me.

'Cherry picking' equivalent phrases in the Koran.(sic)
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Quran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by historical context contained in the surrounding text (although many Muslims choose to think of them that way). They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Quran.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"
... In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). ...

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home).Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward "

This theme goes on in another 106 verses, same web page. I'm a fairly bad Christian and I have a degree from a Baptist College, but I can assure throughout the learning process no one told me or taught me to "seize...and slay.." non-Christians. I wasn't even told to not buy from the Methodists and everyone knows, they don't wash the soul clean with baptism, they dry clean.

Just BTW, Deuteronomy is the Old Testament and refers to infighting among city states about 5000 years ago. In case you missed the history lesson, Islam and in all it's glory and infamy started 623 AD (sic). So when you refer to Deuteronomy remember it's in the basis of Judaism and that 'infidel' Jews were the original 'Christians'. When you quote stuff, you managed to glean as a tidbit for your platform, make sure you get the references correct. I should really address the Matthew thing, but your point was ridiculous, and yes that was a flame.
 
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HafizNafes89

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Well that's not entirely true. As you know from the Koran Mohammed spread Islam through war and violence in many cases.
Actually the Quran does not instruct to kills innocent people. All the verses pertaining to killing is for those who wage war against you.
 

wiyosaya

TS Evangelist
I am muslim and I come from muslim country, and yeah here there are many case that islam have become political tools instead of being a teaching and guidance. The extremist, easy to be provoked ***** muslims in my country REALLY HATES america (US), mostly because of its involvement in palestine. Does it remind you of something? yeah just like the *****s from america and europe(mostly) to muslim, and what will happen when 2 side of ***** clash? WAR WAR and WAR. I'm tired of explaining islam is not all about violence, it's your choice whether you want to hate muslim or whatever, just beware of the consequence. Hate only bring hate.
Hate only brings hate - Absolutely! It is expressed in many spiritual practices. He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword; The law of Karma; as ye sow, so shall ye reap, etc. It seems it is the first lesson forgotten by many in this thread.
Actually the Quran does not instruct to kills innocent people. All the verses pertaining to killing is for those who wage war against you.
That is what I got out of what the expert quoted above. However, the expert fails to see this aspect. Probably because the expert was taught by someone who's point of view was skewed by a specific religious background and can only see with the eyes of someone who thinks they have the only path to God and that those who follow another path to God are heretics (infidels).

And all those who state that the majority of terrorists claim Islam as their religion are missing something as I see it. If they then wage war against all of Islam because a minority have wrongly claimed that they act in the name of Islam, do they not see that they, themselves, have become what they hate? What goes around will come around.

For millennia, religion has been used by misguided humans as a political tool. Take Dylan Roof as a recent example of a misguided christian - Evangelical Lutheran to be exact. Hmm, a terrorist who was not Muslim - imagine that!

Let's not forget Timothy McVeigh who was raised a Roman Catholic and claimed to hold the faith's core beliefs. Gee, yet another non-Muslim terrorist - heaven forbid!

I bet there are many more modern-day. non-Muslim terrorists if those in this thread that think that all terrorists are Muslim have the capacity to be honest with themselves.

Lunacy knows no religious bounds. There is plenty of lunacy in this thread to me, but as I see it, the two of you do not fall into that category.

Unfortunately, though your words are true because you are members of the faith, those who do not have your eyes will likely never see your truth. So I'll remind those who see Islam from the outside of the Muslim hero in the Paris attacks - Here is a man who could have easily waged holy war in the midst of the Paris chaos as the outside looking in experts think that the Koran says to do yet he did not. How do you christian experts on Islam explain that?

My bet is that none of the christian Islam experts personally know anyone who practices Islam. Sad! Yet it makes them all dishonest because they speak only from hearsay and conjecture. To be believed, they are not!