Meta denies torrenting 2,400 porn movies for AI training - says they were for "personal use"

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Facepalm: After being accused of illegally torrenting pornography to train its AI systems, Meta is asking a court to throw out the case because the content was likely for "personal use." Meta also claims there is no evidence of it using adult images or video to train its AI systems.

We've seen several instances of AI companies being hit with lawsuits. Meta was served with another of these complaints in July, filed by Strike 3 Holdings and Counterlife Media, makers of popular adult entertainment brands such as Vixen, Tushy, Blacked, and Deeper.

According to TorrentFreak, the companies allege that Meta downloaded at least 2,369 of their movies since 2018 to train its AI.

The claim stems from a lawsuit filed against Meta by a group of authors in 2024. After that case revealed Meta's torrenting activity, Strike 3 Holdings checked its BitTorrent-tracking tools designed to detect copyright infringement of its videos. This revealed several corporate IP addresses identified as owned by Meta. It's further alleged that Meta concealed a "stealth network" of 2,500 "hidden IP addresses."

Why would Meta want to use almost 2,400 porn videos to train its AI? Strike 3 says it was to secretly train an unannounced adult version of its AI model powering Movie Gen. As such, the producer is demanding $359 million in damages.

Meta, of course, denies all the accusations and has asked for the suit to be dismissed. It noted that Strike has been labled by some as a copyright troll that files extortive lawsuits.

The social media giant has several arguments for its defense. It notes that 2018 – when Strike 3 says the infringements began – was years before Meta started even researching LLMs and generative video, which began in 2022.

There's also the important fact that Meta's terms prohibit the generation of adult content by its AIs.

As for the IP addresses being used as evidence, Meta says that the small number of downloads – roughly 22 per year on average across dozens of Meta IP addresses – plainly indicates that the videos were torrented for personal use. In the authors' piracy case, for example, Meta admits to using the Book3 dataset, a 37GB compilation of 195,000 copyrighted books to train its LLMs.

With tens of thousands of employees and numerous contractors, visitors, and third parties accessing the internet at Meta every day, the company says it's impossible to know who downloaded the clips or if they were Meta employees.

There's also a claim that a Meta contractor was instructed to download adult content at his father's house. Meta argues there's no reason an automation engineer would be expected to source AI training material in his role, especially at his father's home, and that this was also obviously a personal use case.

"[T]hese claims fail not only for lack of supporting facts, but also because Plaintiffs' theory of liability makes no sense and cannot be reconciled with the facts they do plead. The entire complaint against Meta should be dismissed with prejudice," Meta concludes.

In August, Anthropic agreed to pay authors $1.5 billion over alleged use of pirated books for LLM training. Apple, meanwhile, was sued by authors in September over claims it used a known body of pirated books to train its OpenELM LLM.

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"Meta denies torrenting 2,400 porn movies for AI training – says they were for "personal use"

That isn't any better. It says we don't care if our employees are pirating movies on Meta's dime.
It also says we don't care about security on our network. They are downloading God knows what.
Trojans and other malware can be embedded into just about everything.

Also, this is pure speculation but I would bet $100,000 that if all the computers in their HQ were audited for pictures and movies we would find at least 1 computer with child exploitation material on it.

 
"With tens of thousands of employees and numerous contractors, visitors, and third parties accessing the internet at Meta every day, the company says it's impossible to know who downloaded the clips or if they were Meta employees."

And why didn't Meta restrict the porn sites from its employees and contractors...?!

Meta will lose the law suit...!
 
Humanity does not benefit from AI models from META because of those trolls. They have ruined the vibe. They want 300M for “damages” when they didn’t have even 300K profits from the whole business in the last decade. Such a claim, is it fraud or not?
 
They did this all without a VPN? They can't be this stupid 😂 Because I have ExpressVPN and been torrenting for 20+yrs, games, movies, TV,etc. Never had a problem, before torrents I was on Usenet, old school newsgroups still good today.
 
Kind of reminds of an episode of the reality show "Caught at the Boarder" when to men from Arkansas (or someplace like that) got caught at the border crossing from Mexico with 5000 Viagra pills that they claimed was for personal use. The border patrol agents immediately knew that was a lie. And I am sure downloading 2,400 porn movies for personal use was a lie. Every large company forbids the use of company assets for personal use and have policies about downloading porn and unlicensed/unapproved software, doing so can get an employee fired.

So 2,400 adult movies got downloaded for personal use and no one got fired? Its time to breakout the blacklight in the office of whomever downloaded those videos. We are not that stupid.
 
"With tens of thousands of employees and numerous contractors, visitors, and third parties accessing the internet at Meta every day, the company says it's impossible to know who downloaded the clips or if they were Meta employees."

And why didn't Meta restrict the porn sites from its employees and contractors...?!

Meta will lose the law suit...!
Even if they don't lose the suit, this speaks to a glaring security hole. I can excuse them not knowing who did it if it were visitors, but I cannot excuse them from even knowing if it was employees or not, they should know that at least.
 
"With tens of thousands of employees and numerous contractors, visitors, and third parties accessing the internet at Meta every day, the company says it's impossible to know who downloaded the clips or if they were Meta employees."

And why didn't Meta restrict the porn sites from its employees and contractors...?!

Meta will lose the law suit...!
I worked for a defense contractor and everything uploaded or downloaded from the internet is monitored. Logon message say they are monitoring use of the computer which can include keyloggers, screen recorders etc. If we went to any unauthorized sites a warning message popped up asking if we were sure we want to access that site and if we did it would be reported. My company used COTS software and hardware to create a restrictive monitored network. Meta could do it to and even create a custom solution if they needed one. They just got caught illegally using copyrighted and intellectual properties of others and now trying cover themselves from lawsuits.
 
Kind of reminds of an episode of the reality show "Caught at the Boarder" when to men from Arkansas (or someplace like that) got caught at the border crossing from Mexico with 5000 Viagra pills that they claimed was for personal use. The border patrol agents immediately knew that was a lie. And I am sure downloading 2,400 porn movies for personal use was a lie. Every large company forbids the use of company assets for personal use and have policies about downloading porn and unlicensed/unapproved software, doing so can get an employee fired.

So 2,400 adult movies got downloaded for personal use and no one got fired? Its time to breakout the blacklight in the office of whomever downloaded those videos. We are not that stupid.
They are simply stealing. And while I do not be a defender of porn industry, this is just another glaring example of rich stealing from poor. These corporations are the richest entities in the world. And yet rather than helping small creators (I am not talking about porn) to earn livable wage, they want to steal every last penny from them. They want to earn millions of those very small wages rather than those creators.
This greed is parasitical and it will probably end our civilization a lot faster than mismanagement and new weird religions which already made their presence into the government.
 
(here's hoping this doesn't get pulled, but please read it quickly if you're interested).

First of all, there's already an abundance of anime, or if you prefer "manga porn", as well as the ubiquitous human variety online. Can AI porn be any worse, or merely a cross between the two?

Everyone's tastes are obviously different, but each "offering" displays quite a bit of insight into both the expected audience's proclivities and desires, as well as the directors.

From an anthropological standpoint, I believe that both partners should derive equal pleasure from the exchange of bodily fluids.

So, I hope that at least some of what was downloaded concurred with my expectations.

At least with AI, the women will be uniformly beautiful, with no pimples, warts in strange places, beauty marks that look like Australia, or razor stubble, ("Six o'clock shadow"), below their waists. Although I do admit being fascinated by women with tattoos. But do not, under any circumstances, edit out any freckles. (My kink, my rules).

Oh and please, don't include any excessively buxom women. I don't swill enough beer to appreciate that sort of body profile. (endomorphic or implanted).

BTW, did you know that one of the primary differences between, "porn figure photography", and, "art figure photography", is the lighting contrast ratio?
 
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