Microsoft adds a bit of transparency to Windows 10 updates

[captaincranky]

Microsoft also added a lot more to your Windows "experience"... look here [link: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/50308...microsoft-ip-addresses-5500-times/index.html]

@mosu This is really deep. It's a shame we can't borrow this article and publish it for the "Windows 10 is the best OS ever", M$ shills who are members here.

 

[Underdog]

MS Tool for adding the hide - show updates feature.
You are afraid of aftermarket software? And afraid of MS software, what doesn't scare you?
I wonder if all the people that cry over MS gathering data realize just how many programs do this. Google is perhaps the worst offender but there is also Apple which as of Oct. 2015 had at least 256 apps that collect data about the user. Every time you walk outside in most cities, you are on camera. Even in the countryside where there might not be another person for miles, you are under the scrutiny of hundreds of satellite cameras. All your purchases are monitored, all of your communications are monitored and recorded. If you are so worried that MS will know what time you shut down your computer at night, you are worrying over nothing. They want to know what you buy in the MS store and want to be able to direct you to things you might want to see. Wow, scary.
MS wants to know what you like to search for so they can speed future searches up and offer more pertinent results based on what you view.
Horrible stuff.
I could not care less about them knowing the stuff I use their OS to accomplish, why are so many people afraid of an OS that customizes itself to your usage?

Actually they want to know as much as they can about what you do online so they can sell the info to third parties. How else can they afford to GIVE AWAY W10? Why else have they adopted the bullying tactics to force the upgrade upon W7 and W8 users without their permission.

 

[Technician]

Actually they want to know as much as they can about what you do online so they can sell the info to third parties. How else can they afford to GIVE AWAY W10? Why else have they adopted the bullying tactics to force the upgrade upon W7 and W8 users without their permission.

That's hilarious.

 

[captaincranky]

That's hilarious.

Well, it would seem there are an awful lot of comedians on the web>>>>
"In 8 hours, Windows 10 sends data to Microsoft IP addresses 5500 times"
In just 8 hours, Microsoft receives 5500 pieces of data from your Windows 10 PC (NASDAQ:MSFT)

This from "Tweaktown", another tech website similar to Techspot, courtesy of @mosu

Here's that link, yet again: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/50308...-microsoft-ip-addresses-5500-times/index.html

I'm kind of expecting you to tell me everybody who disagrees with you on this topic is "hilarious" . Am I right, or am I right?

 

[Darth Shiv]

The ability to choose is gone. MS has already stated that. Don't like it, to bad. It's not likely that will change due to the fact so many people never even updated XP or Windows 7. MS decided to take it out of the users hands.

There's always a way to prevent the updates.

 

[captaincranky]

There's always a way to prevent the updates.

Allegedly you can only prevent the updates in Win 10 if you're running Pro and above, but not in the home version. It's allegedly done with a change in group policy, or a registry hack. So, AFAIK Home users are jammed up

The ability to choose is gone. MS has already stated that. Don't like it, to bad. It's not likely that will change due to the fact so many people never even updated XP or Windows 7. MS decided to take it out of the users hands.

I not sure where you're coming from with this statement. Are you condoning this, are you condemning this, or are you what seems like just one more M$ rookie shill.

The simple fact of the matter is, more than once M$ has bricked any number of computers with an update.

So, even if someone wants to babble about how, "everybody's spying on you anyway, so why not M$", there still exists the chance the great god at Redmond might brick your machine with one of those "big security favors" they do for you.

With SP-3 for XP, they did include some extra features. I didn't need a damned one of them, so why should I bother installing them? (and I didn't).

I have one pre-built machine, and it loads the OS from an Image, (restore disc). If I put SP-3 in the damned thing, I can't do any repairs from the restore discs.

I suspect that all of the M$' "security updates" being doled out, may be from the perspective of there not being any after market security installed on the machine, so you simply may not need them. In the case of Windows 10, these "recommended updates", may simply be turning a crap load of telemetry back on.

 

[texasrattler]

Allegedly you can only prevent the updates in Win 10 if you're running Pro and above, but not in the home version. It's allegedly done with a change in group policy, or a registry hack. So, AFAIK Home users are jammed up
I not sure where you're coming from with this statement. Are you condoning this, are you condemning this, or are you what seems like just one more M$ rookie shill.

The simple fact of the matter is, more than once M$ has bricked any number of computers with an update.

So, even if someone wants to babble about how, "everybody's spying on you anyway, so why not M$", there still exists the chance the great god at Redmond might brick your machine with one of those "big security favors" they do for you.

With SP-3 for XP, they did include some extra features. I didn't need a damned one of them, so why should I bother installing them? (and I didn't).

I have one pre-built machine, and it loads the OS from an Image, (restore disc). If I put SP-3 in the damned thing, I can't do any repairs from the restore discs.

I suspect that all of the M$' "security updates" being doled out, may be from the perspective of there not being any after market security installed on the machine, so you simply may not need them. In the case of Windows 10, these "recommended updates", may simply be turning a crap load of telemetry back on.

I have no issues with MS. Never have, all my OSes and computer have worked just fine and how they were suppose to. Ive never had a brick. Sure ive had issues nothing that I couldn't over come with a lil thought or nowadays with the power google lol

You don't have to install them but you also have to understand that certain programs need or want them installed so either install them or simply do without the program.

 

[captaincranky]

....[ ]...You don't have to install them but you also have to understand that certain programs need or want them installed so either install them or simply do without the program.

Well, I think that's the sole point here. I choose "Notify only", for updates. If I don't have program "X" installed, I don't need an update to make it compatible, now do I?

The mutts currently running M$, don't seem to believe me capable of independent thought or rational decision making. They're very much mistaken.

And BTW, I missed all their "brick-dates" because I waited for the results of the monthly update cycle, before I even considered installing them.

So those whom have Windows 10 installed, get to "talk" to "Cortana" and I don't. So what?

Which is nor to mention the major draconian irony of a company who has a virtual monopoly on computer operating systems, is so desperate for market share, that they had to copy "Siri".

Segue into Windows becoming a closed system just like Apple.

 

[texasrattler]

MS hasn't had a monopoly on computers since the late '90's when they were forced to break up the company from the government. That's the only way Apple could even get into the PC market. Not their fault Apple just couldn't do it for the mass. Jobs had his shot, he had windows before Gates but didn't do anything or fast enough.

Apple hasn't invented anything since their original computer. Most of there tech came from Sony, Samsung and others would did stuff for them under Apple. So Apple takes credit for stuff they didn't even invent.

I install all the updates and my system is just fine. Again never had any break/brick any system in my house. I only install from Windows Update, I never go n just install something cause it's new.

If you don't like or cant stand MS them go play on Chrome OS. See how far that gets you. You can try or stay with Apple, they would love taking your MS money and tripling it for you to play in there world.

 

[captaincranky]

If you don't like or cant stand MS them go play on Chrome OS. See how far that gets you. You can try or stay with Apple, they would love taking your MS money and tripling it for you to play in there world.

Am I stupid, or inarticulate? Because it really seems I'm having a really tough time making my point.

First off, your computer isn't my computer, nor is it the only computer in the world. Thus, you can "rattle" on all you like, no matter how much that may attach only to your personal situation and preferences.

FWIW, I love Windows, I am simply disgusted with the direction it's going, which is the direction the new CEO Nadella, is taking it.

 

[Raoul Duke]

Texasrattler - you just made captaincranky's point. You state "If you don't like or cant stand MS them go play on Chrome OS. See how far that gets you." as captaincranky pointed out earlier "Some of us..........have the presence of mind to realize that a few of these corporations are giving us no place to run. And while you choose to grasp at workarounds, many others would rather be offered the freedoms to which we have grown accustomed." I would argue MS does essentially have a monopoly on mainstream PC use.

I don't like MS, I don't hate them either, I wish they would do things in a different way as I do feel I am "capable of independent thought and rational decision making", but concerning the OS it seems more of the control I had is being taken away.
I haven't had any system 'bricked', but I'm sure I have more grey hair getting through some things. With win10 I notice at times the OS works well, other times it is much more sketchy. Since sometimes when I go to shut down or reboot there is the option to 'update and reboot' or 'update and shutdown' (pro option notify to schedule update) they have installed stuff whilst I was on the PC. While I know correlation is not causation (are the updates the cause of the malfunctions?) it makes me feel like I'm a beta tester not on a finished product. Then they want the telemetry to fix what should have been a fully functional and well working product in the first place.

 

[texasrattler]

Am I stupid, or inarticulate? Because it really seems I'm having a really tough time making my point.

First off, your computer isn't my computer, nor is it the only computer in the world. Thus, you can "rattle" on all you like, no matter how much that may attach only to your personal situation and preferences.

FWIW, I love Windows, I am simply disgusted with the direction it's going, which is the direction the new CEO Nadella, is taking it.

I would go with stupid since your the one who went into the whole MS thing. I replied to the topic. You went on about YOUR computer. I have stated that I have no issues with MINE. I never stated anything about anyone elses just stating I have have no issues when it comes to breaking/bricking my computers.

 

[texasrattler]

Texasrattler - you just made captaincranky's point. You state "If you don't like or cant stand MS them go play on Chrome OS. See how far that gets you." as captaincranky pointed out earlier "Some of us..........have the presence of mind to realize that a few of these corporations are giving us no place to run. And while you choose to grasp at workarounds, many others would rather be offered the freedoms to which we have grown accustomed." I would argue MS does essentially have a monopoly on mainstream PC use.

I don't like MS, I don't hate them either, I wish they would do things in a different way as I do feel I am "capable of independent thought and rational decision making", but concerning the OS it seems more of the control I had is being taken away.
I haven't had any system 'bricked', but I'm sure I have more grey hair getting through some things. With win10 I notice at times the OS works well, other times it is much more sketchy. Since sometimes when I go to shut down or reboot there is the option to 'update and reboot' or 'update and shutdown' (pro option notify to schedule update) they have installed stuff whilst I was on the PC. While I know correlation is not causation (are the updates the cause of the malfunctions?) it makes me feel like I'm a beta tester not on a finished product. Then they want the telemetry to fix what should have been a fully functional and well working product in the first place.

He can go play wherever he wants. The ChromeOS is about to die. Google is going to abandon it in favor of sticking with just Android.

I don't and never have had to do any workarounds, that would be the other guy. As I have said, no issues for me with MS. My computers just work.

 

[captaincranky]

I don't and never have had to do any workarounds, that would be the other guy. As I have said, no issues for me with MS. My computers just work.

At yet you keep running your yap as if other people's don't. So, you're not special.

 

[Raoul Duke]

Seems we have hit a sore spot with texasrattler. Perhaps the name is well chosen, strike and bite before comprehension of what has been read has been achieved. I really do hate being drawn into this kind of sarcasm, but I don't know how else to respond at times

 

[captaincranky]

Seems we have hit a sore spot with texasrattler. Perhaps the name is well chosen, strike and bite before comprehension of what has been read has been achieved. I really do hate being drawn into this kind of sarcasm, but I don't know how else to respond at times

Indeed. I remember back in the "good old days", bring talked down to by new Vista adopters. That stopped happening rather quickly though. Oh well,the more things change, the more they remain the same.