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Microsoft experiments ahead of Windows 8's public beta, is the Start button going the way of the dod

By Julio Franco · 40 replies
Feb 6, 2012
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  1. As we draw closer to the Windows 8 public beta this month, we've come to learn many different details of what Microsoft is cooking behind the scenes in the new…

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  2. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,634   +98

    I don't know about others, but I rarely use the start button, mostly because I am used to organize shortcuts in folders placed on desktops, e.g. for applications 'Apps', for internet related software it is 'Net Utils' etc. etc. So I think if it is to go away, it won't bother me in any significant way. However, for a 'less savvy' user it could pose a problem.
  3. Not a fan of Windows 8. But being a Windows 7 user, I use Start Killer to remove the start button. To open the start menu I tap the Windows Key.
  4. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,840   +1,267

    I tend to see the Start button as an MS logo. I've a tendency to use the Win+__ shortcuts as a general rule.
  5. LOL, all these year to push the start button to be more central and now remove it!
    Windows Vista and 7 both had a blank desktop with the recycling bin and a start button.
    Now just the recycling bin! HAHAHA

    Windows 8 sound nice and all, but most will probably skip this version like ME, Vista
  6. Windows 95
    Skip Windows 98
    Windows 98 SE
    Skip Windows ME
    Windows XP
    Skip Windows Vista
    Windows 7
    Skip Windows 8
    Windows 9
  7. Julio Franco

    Julio Franco TechSpot Editor Topic Starter Posts: 8,194   +1,256

    @Archean, I assume 'less savvy' users will be more comfortable on the Metro UI anyway.

    @Guest, you reminded me how new PCs tend to ship with an empty desktop except for the recycle bin. What a horrible user experience that presents IMHO. Couldn't they figure out something more creative?
  8. I use the Start Button all the time, but only to launch one of the dozen or so applications I have pinned to it, or the search field; never the "All Programs" menus. The Metro UI's default grid view should accommodate that kind of usage fine, or better in fact, so I'm not too concerned.

    That said, I'll most likely give Windows 8 a miss, as I did with Vista, since it's such a major overhaul in some ways, then pickup a hopefully more refined Windows 9.
  9. gcarter

    gcarter TS Enthusiast Posts: 99   +35

    Nowadays, tech companies... be it software or hardware companies, seem to be pandering towards the I quote Julio's comment "less savvy" users... giving us big chunky icons, and patronising the end user by making the interface as basic as possible, again to appeal to the n00bs!

    I even had a rant on my own blog about laptop resolutions going a similar way, ie catering for the "I can't see properly" crowd!

  10. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,634   +98

    Can be true as well :). I have always tried things first and only then made up my mind about liking or disliking it, so even in this case I am open to changes but MS must ensure that: a) they (changes) make sense, b) ease of use, c) people are allowed switch to older desktop in case they don't like Metro.
  11. Sarcasm

    Sarcasm TS Guru Posts: 380   +47

    I think we're hitting a wall when it comes to how much more refined they can make an OS. I think I might skip this one too.
  12. Uvindu

    Uvindu TS Booster Posts: 120

    I agree, Try it before you hate it...
  13. madboyv1

    madboyv1 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,530   +420

    Personally, I use the start menu A LOT, but often in the form of the windows key. Even still, I find myself clicking it on a regular basis out of habit. :rolleyes:

    It might end up be an in house taskbar option, to enable or disable the start menu icon in the standard Desktop environment in the public beta or even RTM/final release. I wouldn't necessarily call it the end of the start menu (button) quite yet, just will have to see when the software finally ships. And even if they completely remove it, SOMEONE will create a UI tweak that will let users add it back to the taskbar. So... I wouldn't count on it being truly gone from Windows 8, or 9 for that matter.
  14. I use the Start button in Win 7, mainly to start typing a search for a program or document. In Win 8 Dev Preview, clicking on the Start button brings up the Metro interface, which you can then just start typing to search. When the public beta/preview is released we'll see which direction Microsoft will go in.
  15. mattfrompa

    mattfrompa TS Evangelist Posts: 576   +73

    Personally I like change, especially simple ones. Even if there are programs/tasks that another OS would handle better, it seems to me like Windows 8 is conforming fairly well to its purpose.Is it perfect? No, and it never will be, but I'd be interested to know what percentage of critics have even installed Windows 8 let alone given it a full test, which isn't even possible since it's not finished.
  16. Cota

    Cota TS Enthusiast Posts: 512   +8

    @Julio, Best quote ever.

    Its kind of sad looking at how technology is numbing, maybe its time to go paranoid.
  17. When does the offical Beta come out?
  18. tehbanz

    tehbanz TS Enthusiast Posts: 180   +10

    From a PC technician i can see this being a bad thing, often times when helping people over the phone it's so easy to say "Press the start button". Now people will be like ... what?
  19. Chazz

    Chazz TS Evangelist Posts: 679   +75

    I like the change. Mostly because I keep my desktop as clean as possible. There are plenty of times where there is absolutely no icon on my desktop. I make use of the taskbar and the search feature that the start button/windows key brings. As well as the frequently used programs in the start menu.

    I really hate seeing desktops clutter with like 40-50 icons.
  20. tengeta

    tengeta TS Enthusiast Posts: 610

    as long as i can hit the windows key and type a program name to launch, i'm fine with it. i don't need to see it, i just want the functionality. i personally haven't clicked the start button in years.

    as for the metro interface, they are making the exact same ui mistake apple is. over-stylized garbage that yet again appeals only to mouse (and i guess nowadays touch) first users.
  21. Due to this and other design choices, my view on 8 is simple. Don't like. Won't buy.
  22. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 3,050   +1,384

    if it werent for improved FX performace and xbox live integration, so far i would not consider windows 8.
  23. i am already tired of gnome 3's hot corner and now windows is also making similar UI . what is next ?
  24. I'll stick with Xubuntu.
  25. PinothyJ

    PinothyJ TS Guru Posts: 490   +38

    I use a floating command line that appears where my mouse is when I hit Win+V and then I use auto-correcting "magicwords" to launch my programs. It is so freeing to get to exactly where you want to go by typing Win+V+"fire" or Win+V+"ste" or Win+V+"off" followed by enter; save so much time.

    I recommend it to all…

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