Microsoft "indoctrinating" Best Buy employees

By Matthew ยท 46 replies
Sep 10, 2009
  1. Microsoft has confirmed reports that it is equipped to train Best Buy employees in the fine art of trashing Linux -- or rather, the "important differences between Linux computers and Windows computers." Less than a week ago news broke that the software giant was "indoctrinating" Best Buy workers in preparation for the launch of its much-anticipated Windows 7 operating system.

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  2. Whoever wants to define himself a desktop user or real enterprise customer, should know which OS is better for him/her.

    This Microsoft ad is just another ad in order to create a fuss around the release of Windows 7.

    (Windows 7 is a really good release)

    A Linux user who knows how to use a Linux system, should recognise automatically that most of the things said on the ad are just FUD, the first impression of somebody who just booted into, for example, Ubuntu or Fedora, and hasn't used another OS before.

    A desktop user's opinion shouldn't be affected by such ads without arguments, since they are biased, obviously.

    Linux users, just, don't care. It should be forgotten in a week or so.
  3. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Topic Starter Posts: 5,332   +101

    It's not an ad. It's training material for Best Buy employees. :( Did you even read the article?
  4. Tekkaraiden

    Tekkaraiden TS Evangelist Posts: 997   +93

    I'm sure most Best Buy employees don't even know what Linux is. Being fair Ubuntu and Fedora can be a lot more work to configure than Windows, but hey it's FREE.
  5. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,352   +293

    Does it really surprise anyone that Microsoft would spout half-truths and skew (or conveniently leave out) facts to support the sale of their own software? It IS Microsoft we're talking about, here.
    Personally, I love how they make one of their points that Linux can't run Windows Live Essentials... Well, DUH! Besides, who wants that crap? WIndows Live Messenger regularly crashes computers here at work, we have all moved to Trillian to avoid the stupidity.
    And they point out that Linux can't run Office... Yah, it's too bad there's not a great office package that rivals Microsoft Office, and was programmed native to Linux... What, there is? And it's FREE you say? Why wouldn't Microsoft mention that? <insert eye roll here>
  6. Microsoft is so full of Caca its to the point of unbelievable and beyond windows xp is forever full of holes which they continually patching dont talk bout vista someone correct me is im wrong how long has it been out and now we have this wndows 7 on the horizon, huh!? as for games, software and etc.. don't microsoft pays company to just host its OS? correct if im wrong so people like linux and mac OS cant enter the ring with them. right now i have on my machine is a dual boot XP and Ubuntu and i love it i use XP to just game and i use the Ubuntu for everyday PCing linux is all right in book and i didnt have to pay arm and leg to obtain it so as im concerned microsoft sucks
  7. raybay

    raybay TS Evangelist Posts: 7,241   +10

    Not the first training of Best Buy by Microsoft. They also provided such training for CompUSA for all the good it did them, and the Best Buy staff isn't going to be fooled. In the long run, it is good for the average computer hardware or software buyer.
    I am in favor of anything that gets those Best Buy people better trained than they are currently.
  8. Why is Microsoft afraid of Linux? I believe I know the answer. Watch the Penguin closely in the coming months.
  9. @Matthew: It IS an ad, and I've read really well what it is.
  10. MS is pointing out what most already know. Good for them. Nothing wrong with the points they make. All very true.
  11. Badfinger

    Badfinger TS Rookie Posts: 155

    M$ must be full of republicants.
    Is WINE for Linux free?
  12. shl0791

    shl0791 TS Rookie

    That's the training available straight from Expertzone at microsoft. That training is not JUST for BBY employees. It was designed for retail stores who carry MS products. Please do some research before posting the wrong info and making BBY look bad. The title should read something like "Microsoft "indoctrinating" tech retail employees "
  13. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 4,572   +65

    While I agree the title could be more generalized and fair -- making this information available to others doesn't make the existing title any less true.
  14. To be fair Linux is usually much easier to install and configure than any version of Windows including 7. But hey! its Open!
  15. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,967   +2,524

    Well, Best Buy is almost the monopoly that M$ is in the electronics retail business. Circuit City is dead, as is CompUSA. Who else exactly does M$ have to indoctrinate? Good luck trying to teach a Walmart employee anything about an OS, Hi-Def TV or a computer. This is not the fault of the employees, but rather a question of corporate policy and focus. It does pretty much seem that when you've reached BJ's or KMart or any such retail establishment for a major electronics, you're expected to know what you're doing, and if you don't, too bad, buy something anyway. Major chain retailers realize a much greater profit margin by selling toys, back to school supplies, and Fruit of the Loom underwear, than they ever will selling Blu-Ray Players
  16. tengeta

    tengeta TS Enthusiast Posts: 612

    So what, Best Buy was already full of BS spewing employees to begin with, now they just don't have to come up with it on the spot.
  17. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,967   +2,524

    No, Bill Gates whispered the answer to them out of a burning bush.

    So, what's wrong with a teleprompter anyway?
  18. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,448   +145

    Linux has a fraction of the consumers microsoft does, true, its getting more popular and easy, but I think showing powerpoints abroad like this will strengthen linux advertising to people who are unaware, and do nothing to the less informed group that can't tell a difference. And everyone else knows what they're talking about.
  19. brucethetech

    brucethetech TS Enthusiast Posts: 229

    if that unaware crowd you spoke of switched to linux theyd switch back instantly the second they had to add a piece of hardware or wanted to play a game. the ease of use is just not ther for the mere inquisitive windows user
  20. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,224   +164

    thats not exactly right HK, linux has garnered somewhere between 1-4% of the market (games get played with this. what they fail to report,reflect,and leave out is that of the folks who try it, most go back to windows.
  21. MaXtor

    MaXtor TS Booster Posts: 149   +39

    Anyone who believes this trash has never used a modern distro of Linux. If they have, then they never took the time to learn to use it, they gave up when they noticed it wasn't exactly the same as Windows. Microsoft just took any technicality they had and worded it in a way that works to their advantage. The best part is their reasoning for Linux not being more secure than Windows, I actually laughed out loud when I read that part. Something I find funny was that I had major driver issues with Windows 7, but I didn't have a single driver problem installing Ubuntu 9.04 on the same computer.

    Linux aims to be better than Windows. Linux is NOT Windows. How could Linux be better than Windows if it's exactly the same? Of course there is a learning curve, it's an entirely different operating system. Think of it as if you were using Windows for the first time, but at least you know the fundamentals of using a mouse and keyboard. So it should actually be easier than it was to learn Windows. Read this article that explains what I'm trying to say a whole lot better:

    Microsoft is such a sneaky company, take a look at their renamed, and relaunched search engine. They copied Google unbelievably. If you haven't noticed you must be blind, take a look at this screenshot:

    I will however give them credit, I think the preview on videos for their video search is rather neat. I am also quite impressed with Windows 7, but there is nothing unique about it. What's new about it? The taskbar? That's a ripped off idea from Mac, I've been using a similar version in Ubuntu for almost 2 years now. Currently I have Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and Ubuntu 9.04 x64 installed on my laptop. I only have Windows 7 installed for the purpose of testing it, I'll be honest, I like it, but I'll keep Ubuntu as my main Operating System.

    I've never had a security issue with Ubuntu. I don't usually have security issues with Windows either, but the difference is I don't have to do anything to Ubuntu to secure it. Using Ubuntu just seems more personal. You have a huge community you can go to for help, they help out of the kindness of their hearts, you don't have to pay for tech support. There is just so much software, and it's all free. Aside from that, it's just way more customizable.
    I know I sort of went off topic. I guess I got a little worked up, not sure why, I should surprised by this. It was a standard Microsoft move.
  22. yukka

    yukka TechSpot Paladin Posts: 861   +67

    Salesman lie anyway depending on what they get commision from. So its liers training liers to lie which they do anyway.
  23. Obedience without question. Loyalty until Underverse come.
  24. Yes, that is not Best Buy specific training, nor is it mandatory training in any way. It is training for retail employees who sell Microsoft products so they can get cheap stuff from Microsoft. Not all retail employees are dumb*sses, though. I do that training garbage to get cheap and free stuff (such as a copy of Windows 7 Ultimate, Microsoft Office 2007 Standard, Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac, all for free). I don't even consider the stuff training. It's just spewing Microsoft propoganda. Not a word of it will come out of my mouth to a customer, ever (I always suggest free alternatives, such as Open Office, etc).
  25. windmill007

    windmill007 TS Rookie Posts: 308

    Linux is like windows 3.1 Hopefully someday we'll see Linux 95 and we can finally see it start to shine. It's time they start stealing some ideas from apple and Microsoft and make there OS easier for regular folk. I'm in IT and even I thought it was way to hard without spending time learning. With windows u can play and figure it out. Ever try to install or download something for Linux...HAHA good luck.
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