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Microsoft's desktop Start menu won't appear until next major Windows release in 2015

By Jos ยท 43 replies
Jun 2, 2014
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  1. Microsoft made several desktop-friendly tweaks to Windows 8.1 Update 1 and the much-anticipated return of the Start menu was supposedly slated for Update 2 later this year. According to a ZDNet report, however, the company has decided to hold off...

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  2. Great microsoft, just great.
  3. ...or just use Win7. I can wait.
  4. psycros

    psycros TS Evangelist Posts: 2,717   +2,517

    Their finished.
  5. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 4,479   +3,037

    It gives plenty of room to someone else to pick up the ball, like Apple, and judging by the announcements during live conference right now, they really do.
  6. Teko03

    Teko03 TS Evangelist Posts: 575   +297

    Each day they continue to go on without the start menu is another day they tend to lose another user to Android, Chrome or Mac OSX. Microsoft can easily gain back the users they've lost, but the longer they waitg and delay the things "we" want, the wose it is for Surface, Windows Phone and Xbox One. The future and current state of Windows directly affects the sucess of all 3 of these products.

    On a side note, I know some people don't want a start menu, but let's face it...the masses do and it NEEDS to come back ASAP. The most exciting thing shown at Build 2014 was the start menu and we're not even getting it in 2014.
    lmike6453 likes this.
  7. Teko03

    Teko03 TS Evangelist Posts: 575   +297

  8. TheBigFatClown

    TheBigFatClown TS Evangelist Posts: 744   +274

    Are you ******* serious Microsoft? The delay of the Start Menu is fine if time is all you need to get it right....but live tiles? How do I put this so that you understand it Microsoft? The idea of "live tiles" needs to be killed off in the same way your brain cells have been killed off. It's a disaster, just like Windows 8 itself. Live Tiles is simply 1 reason of a multitude of reasons I will never ever use or install Windows 8. Especially, having seen it first hand, now that my Dad was "forced" into using it via his new system purchase. I've been calling Windows 8 a turd from its inception up through now. Now, having actually used it, I still stand by my comments. It's a ******* disaster. Adding back something you should have NEVER removed to begin with and then changing the name of Windows 8 and serving the same ******** to your customers isn't gonna fly Microsoft. Microsoft take a ****** HINT. Desktop users don't want tablet ******* features on the desktop. Do you understand that Microsoft?

    Why would anybody want live tiles on a start menu? Here comes Frankenstein 9. One more operating system composed of multiple body parts. Windows is ******* DEAD!!!
    MrBungle and avoidz like this.
  9. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,124   +1,617

    This is so stupid...SO stupid that MS can't figure this out. How much money do you think they've lost to Stardock for Start8 ($5 to install) just so people can get their start button back? Even at that low price, it's probably in the millions.

    I'm thinking the whole Windows 8 fiasco is bypassing Vista as the worst OS they've ever released.
    avoidz and Jad Chaar like this.
  10. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    Soo basically next major release of windows will be a cash cow?
  11. TheBigFatClown

    TheBigFatClown TS Evangelist Posts: 744   +274

    I think the entire flawed theory Microsoft won't let go of is that they think they can please "everybody on the planet" with one version of Windows. They had it right for so many years and then came Windows 8.....*sigh*.

    Now that I think about it, they do have two separate version of Windows 8. But I think that's just a gimmick.
  12. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,151   +588

    They probably view Windows 8 as even if they fix this people will not grab this OS and are just going to move on to the next one. Windows 9 is just going to be a fixed up Windows 8/8.1 similar to how 7 was a fixed up Vista so I guess this is their theory. Hopefully they will go ahead and add it as well with Windows 9 release on 8.1 but I would not hold my breath.
  13. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,460   +1,035

    Heh, of all the problems with Windows 8, the start menu is at the bottom for me. It was replaced with that metro screen, and hasn't bugged me since...
    CorvusCorax likes this.
  14. Oh folks like TheBigFatClown really make me smile. I mean it is seriously hilarious. I think once you and folks like you actually get another 10 or so years under your belt of using an OS (any OS) you will finally come to the realization that: 1. you install applications on top of an OS to get them to do what you want them to do (hint hint, Classic Shell), 2. OS's are going to change for better or for worse depending upon your point of view. Getting mad about an OS change is like getting mad about the grass growing. It is preposterous. lol, just so funny
    CorvusCorax and spectrenad like this.
  15. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,286

    As a mobile OS, 8 is fine but they fumbled then dropped the ball on their own goal line when designing it for desktops, maybe they thought desktops would be dead and buried by now. It's now gone through a multitude of updates and has improved a little but it's still a turd will remain so. They really didn't make many friends in the desktop market with it.
  16. lmike6453

    lmike6453 TS Enthusiast Posts: 100   +6

    My vote for worst released is Windows ME
  17. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,286

    That's true to an extent but would you put a brand new Bugatti Veyron body shell over a clapped out 1960's VW Beetle chassis? No matter how glamorous it looks on the outside, the underpinnings is what counts.
  18. FlintBeastw00d

    FlintBeastw00d TS Rookie

    Or. You can get startisback+ for 3 dollars and it looks EXACTLY the way it does in Windows 7. it works great. I use it on all my computers. Even my office one. I havent updated everyones office PC to Windows 8.1 because of this issue, but I just might now.
  19. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,482   +978

    I think this is a bad move for consumers, but a good move for MS. It just another feature that MS can market... "The start menu you know and love is back"...
    avoidz and Burty117 like this.
  20. Teko03

    Teko03 TS Evangelist Posts: 575   +297

    @FlintBeastw00d, non-advanced users aren't aware of these 3rd party options. And as an advanced user myself, I've tried 3 different start menu applications and I still managed to somehow manage to launch the start screen because the mapping to the "fake" start button only covers a certain area of the bottom left hand corner. Non-of them seem completely polished enought anyway.

    I for one would prefer a functional and productive desktop OS out of the box --- I use Windows 8 daily on my Surface RT and occasionally on my non-touch laptop, but I refuse to put productivity desktop. It would just slow down my workflow for photo editing. I was planning to finally get Windows 8.1 with the addition of the start menu I thought would be in Update 2. But I guess I'll hold off for threshold
  21. TheBigFatClown

    TheBigFatClown TS Evangelist Posts: 744   +274

    Come on man. Cut me some slack. I gotta feign some anger to get what I want in life, right? Hell, my rants...alone....are probably why you guys are getting your start menu back. LOL. Squeaky wheel gets the grease you know. But since this is a public forum I figure why not make a spectacle of myself.

    But in all honesty. Windows 8 sucks. It feels cheap to me. And dumbed down but that's the target audience so...what can you do....
  22. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,493   +1,295


    This will happen and I'm going to laugh.
    Just imagine the adverts!

    "That feature we've had for as long as you can remember is back! Meet, the start menu..."
    Teko03 and Jad Chaar like this.
  23. avoidz

    avoidz TS Guru Posts: 460   +59

    And then there will be third-party programs to remove those useless "live tiles" from the Win9 Start Menu.
  24. Windows ME the best from MS till now, you can do everything, 2nd Windows 7, 3rd Dos 6.22
  25. Seventh Reign

    Seventh Reign TS Booster Posts: 131   +65


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