Millions of cars are under recall for catching fire while parked

[wiyosaya]

The whole blame is on the manufacturers themselves, who try to get a product out to sell that will make them some money without proper testing to see what will go wrong. Government intervention is always required for this reason in the final analysis to fix the issue, usallly a massive recall after somebody gets iinjured or killed. They need more controls over who makes what before they ever allow anyone to put anything out on the market. This applies to everything you can buy. The newspapers and websites and TV news is full of examples every day. It's to our national shame that someone always gets killed or hurt before they government intervenes. Someone once said an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Fortunately, not all manufacturers are that way, IMO. Some still test sufficiently.

However, the nature of cars these days is so complicated that it would not surprise me if thorough testing takes about as much time as design does. And there is so much that can go wrong that problems inevitably pop up after any model from any manufacturer ends up on the roads.

Where manufacturers show their true colors, IMO, is when a problem develops and what they do about it. Some manufacturers will voluntarily recall vehicles when a serious problem develops. Other manufacturers absolutely have to have their arms, legs, and other body parts twisted by NHSTA in the US, before they do the right thing and recall vehicles with serious problems.

 

[BadThad]

The best day of our lives is when we sold our the last Jeep product in our fleet. We all bought Japanese vehicles and now my tools are getting rusty.

 

[trieste1s]

I dont live in Japan.

And the US is self-sufficient and doesn't import a single thing from the rest of the world.

 

[scavengerspc]

And the US is self-sufficient and doesn't import a single thing from the rest of the world.

Well ok then. Even light sarcasm goes way over your head.
Bet you're great at parties.

 

[trieste1s]

Well ok then. Even light sarcasm goes way over your head.
Bet you're great at parties.

Political parties?

 

[scavengerspc]

Political parties?

Well, no. Those are all boring.

 

[sticks435]

Purchase a Toyota, or a Honda, and you'll be fine...

Acccctually, Toyota made engines are one of the model's involved in one of these recalls because starts from certain suppliers can catch fire lol. They use them in the Supra and BMW's.

https://www.cars.com/articles/318000-plus-bmws-toyota-supras-recalled-for-fire-risk-527385/

 

[Win7user]

Acccctually, Toyota made engines are one of the model's involved in one of these recalls because starts from certain suppliers can catch fire lol. They use them in the Supra and BMW's.

https://www.cars.com/articles/318000-plus-bmws-toyota-supras-recalled-for-fire-risk-527385/

Wow. Toyota has been building vehicles since 1937. In my experience owning them, they've been reliable since the seventies. What car company do you know that makes BETTER or more RELIABLE vehicles, or even close to as good a vehicle than Japan? You must be bored...

 

[Underdog]

The whole blame is on the manufacturers themselves, who try to get a product out to sell that will make them some money without proper testing to see what will go wrong. Government intervention is always required for this reason in the final analysis to fix the issue, usallly a massive recall after somebody gets iinjured or killed. They need more controls over who makes what before they ever allow anyone to put anything out on the market. This applies to everything you can buy. The newspapers and websites and TV news is full of examples every day. It's to our national shame that someone always gets killed or hurt before they government intervenes. Someone once said an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

You make a valid point but this is the way of things as long as manufacturers lobby hard and line the pockets of politicians to keep their products flowing onto the market without proper safe, reliable, and durable design going into them. Governments support big business, not people.

 

[sticks435]

Wow. Toyota has been building vehicles since 1937. In my experience owning them, they've been reliable since the seventies. What car company do you know that makes BETTER or more RELIABLE, or even close to as good a vehicle than Japan? You must be bored...

https://www.cars.com/articles/318000-plus-bmws-toyota-supras-recalled-for-fire-risk-527385/

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit...to-display-error-affecting-safety-indicators/

There was just another one issued today for Tacoma's shock absorbers possibly detaching from the chassis.

I'm just saying that your holy grail Toyota also has issues due to bad supplier Quality Control. While I don't have access to the Consumer Reports report, I did find an article that ranked BMW as 4th most reliable with Toyota and Honda somewhere in the top 3.

So no, you won't be "fine" all the time.

 

[Mark Fuller]

Fortunately, not all manufacturers are that way, IMO. Some still test sufficiently.

However, the nature of cars these days is so complicated that it would not surprise me if thorough testing takes about as much time as design does. And there is so much that can go wrong that problems inevitably pop up after any model from any manufacturer ends up on the roads.

Where manufacturers show their true colors, IMO, is when a problem develops and what they do about it. Some manufacturers will voluntarily recall vehicles when a serious problem develops. Other manufacturers absolutely have to have their arms, legs, and other body parts twisted by NHSTA in the US, before they do the right thing and recall vehicles with serious problems.

Point well made. As far as I remember, foreign cars like Toyota, Honda, etc. have beeen subject to recalls as much as anyone's and as far as quality is concerned, I have found that American made cars give no more problems than anyone else's.

 

[yannus]

Well apparently, if you read the comments, that is not always the case.

People want knobs and buttons even if there's a high-tech Voice Recognition way of operating most, if not all, of the functionality within a vehicle.

Since no one has quite qualified it, that would apparently exclude things that save lives like automatic emergency braking, or make a vehicle easier to drive such as radar assisted cruise control.

IMO, people who don't want tech in their cars are going to be waiting a long, long time for vehicles to be de-teched. Even ICE vehicles have substantial amounts of tech in them from pretty much all the manufacturers out there.

To quote Kosh from Babylon 5, "The Avalanche has started, it is too late for the pebbles to vote."

I was around when seat belts became standard and then when they became mandatory. People pissed and moaned about them, too. Before seatbelts were mandated at a federal level, Lee Iaccoca pissed and moaned about them being too expensive to include in cars, then when they were mandated, he trumpeted the fact that they were in the cars his company made as a selling point.

There are always people who fight against whatever "new fangeled gadget" comes to market, high-tech or not.

Did I really need to add a /s to the end of the post you quoted?

Well possibly, it 's not about tech but about sovereignty. The more complex the tech, the harder to fix. Simplicity can make life much easier, especially if you have moderate income. For example AI is a fascinating tech when you're in control, but the ones that we're using right now are coincidentally ruining the memory and ssd market. Corps will make sure RAM never becomes affordable again so that the mass will never get access to the real tech. Once people are dependent enough. Subscription inflation will become massive. The car industry is using technology as the same pivot. Look at how prices started rising, microprocessor shortages.

 

[Mark Fuller]

The real reason voice activated devices don't work so well is because the typical ***** behind the wheel of a car can't speak whatever language he is using . You still have to have a real education to know how to speak your language and know what lies behind the suface of the mud.. I have a hard time myself getting the damn Contana, Gemini, Google or whatever to understand me, which is why most of the time I just usually use the manual method. It aint that hard to turn knobs and use a dial.