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[GhostRyder]

The i5 is the hyper threaded CPU, with 2 cores and 4 threads, whereas the i7 isn't with 4 cores and 4 threads, do you still think I should get the i5? I've seen benchmarks in gaming for the i5-4670K and the i7-4770K and they were very similar, I think it was on Tom's Hardware.

That is incorrect, the i7 is an 4 core 8 thread hip while the i5 is an 4 core 4 thread.

For gaming the i5 is all that's needed.

And here you are continuing to ramble nonsense, without knowing what needs the OP has in order to balance the system. You have no justifiable reason to promote the R9-290 over the GTX-770, because the OP hasn't given you a reason. You talk of saving money on a CPU, while assuming games will be the only use for the machine. At the same time talking of spending more on a GPU, while assuming the OP's game selection will need it. Tell me again what facts you have for suggesting this balance.

STOP assuming what the OP needs for a balanced machine and ask!

I'm not here to bicker with you, but you can't seem to get a grip on why I started questioning your recommendation. A recommendation that was given purely out of spite. You can't stand the thought of a GTX 770 being sold! In case you haven't noticed, the OP seems to want nVidia. Have you thought to ask?

I'm done, I've trashed the OP's thread long enough. I only wish you could look back and realize you were recommending a product based on nothing other than the words gaming machine. Recommending yes, but you didn't stop there. You were also recommending against other prospects, based on an unfounded concept.

This coming from the guy who stated earlier that your desires are the op's does not help your argument. You would not be arguing with me if I had suggested an Nvidia card, its just because it was an AMD card. I suggested something to balance his budget with more gaming power while keeping in his budget. Your saying I can't come to a grip on this but the obvious problem is you who started an argument over a light suggestion that he could get a higher GPU for his money if done this way. The only thing given out of spite was you saying AMD can't be in this thread. Now I'm finished with that little debate.

I'm not intending on overclocking because a) I'm not sure it'll be necessary, b) I have no idea what I'm doing. I do however intend on getting a Hyper 212 just because I've had enough with hot computers, it's really starting to bug me.

You will see reduced temps with a Hyper212 that's for sure but it maybe a bit overkill.

I've taken in to account what you've said, but I'm really quite torn on the brand of GPU I get, on one hand I've heard better things about Nvidia recently, with better drivers and more reliability, not to mention that I am very interested in the Nvidia Shield, however AMD's Mantle technology is intriguing me greatly, and it's getting in to a lot of upcoming game releases which could be really beneficial, in addition AMD is also in the current gen consoles, and from this it could give them an upper hand in smoother coding for current gen games (which is a 5 year estimate)..
I am so torn D=
Also, I have an AMD processor and an AMD GPU at the moment, I don't know which producers more, but my PC feels like it's on fire most of the time, especially in Summer, coming very close the 70°C dangers-zone

With an aftermarket cooler its not really going to matter which brand you buy in terms of cooling. Almost all aftermarket coolers work very well in this day and age on keeping temps down and heat production to a minimum. Though the higher the GPU, the more power that is outputted in the end so you could go based on that. I suggested the 290 because its the next step up in GPU's and if you were looking at the i7 I was suggesting take that money and put it into a better GPU. You could even then just splurge on the 780 if you really want NVidia but its going to cost a lot more.

Guys, be civil please, we're all friends here. And Cliff, you're comments are always welcome here as long as they are well intentioned and relevant.

Apologies, I did not think an argument would ensue from me making a suggestion on a video card.

 

[SirDigby]

You have that wrong for the most part.

i3's are 2 core with hypertheading (4 threads total)
i5's are 4 core without hyperthreading (4 threads total)
i7's are 4 core with hyperthreading (8 threads total)

That is incorrect, the i7 is an 4 core 8 thread hip while the i5 is an 4 core 4 thread.

OH NO. I'VE HAD IT WRONG ALL ALONG.

Cool, i5 for me!

I currently have an AMD Phenom ii X6 1045T, 6 core, 6 threads, not very efficient though, I'll be glad to ditch it. I only got it because I read somewhere that it was better than the FX6xxx series, and that really does heat up like a *****. Current GPU is a Sapphire Radeon 6780 1/ 1GB, it was all I could afford at the time.

I think I'm gonna get a new PSU next month, and then do the rest when I start work in October.

Buying so many parts, I am very tempted just to wait another month and just buy the extra bits so I actually have two separate computers.

 

[SirDigby]

So, birthday in 8 days, I'm down to 3 PSUs, EVGA 650W Modular @ £65 or Corair 750W Semi-Modular @ £71, both are certified Gold, which one do you think will be best?

 

[SirDigby]

Oh what good waiting has done for me! Now I work I can afford much more!

I got myself a nice rig here:
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 Gunmetal
Mobo: Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H (originally ordered MSI Z97-G55 but it's taking to long to get here, too late to cancel but I'll send it back when it arrives unless you can convince me otherwise, Gigabyte Mobo arrives tomorrow!)
CPU: Intel i5-4690K
RAM: 8GB DDR3 HyperX Beast (2400MHz)
GPU: EVGA GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 Superclocked
PSU: EVGA Supernova 750W Gold
Monitor: BenQ 24£ 250HM
SSD: Originally bought a Kingston V300 120GB, it didn't work so I'm waiting on a Samsung 840 PRO 120GB that should arrive tomorrow
HDDs: Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black & Western Digital 1TB Caviar Blue.

Re-using the Caviar Blue HDD but otherwise yeah this has cost me about £1100?

 

[bluejolls]

Motherboard:
MSI, Asus, Gigabyte & ASRock

With 'Graphics Cards' you get:
Asus, Gigabyte, Sapphire.

And with 'PSU' you get:
Corsair, ACE, Cooler Master,& Thermaltake