davisjaron
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yea that's mainly why I haven't bought anything yet bc not only might they be outdated, but i'll save on shipping and i'll have to a chance to see any big deals...
My first build... tell me what you think
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captaincranky
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Someday, I'll build my dream Computer
davisjaron; I think you have enough posts to simply link the parts rather than typing them in.
One of things I enjoy most about threads like this, is that they take me back to my roots in sales. I found nothing more enjoyable than spending a rainy afternoon discussing a potential stereo system with a "customer", only to have the session end, with something like, "well I'm thinking about buying a system next year, maybe after I get my income tax check". Of course, this was usually in May, so it was 11 months to go to a "maybe".
davisjaron; I think you have enough posts to simply link the parts rather than typing them in.
One of things I enjoy most about threads like this, is that they take me back to my roots in sales. I found nothing more enjoyable than spending a rainy afternoon discussing a potential stereo system with a "customer", only to have the session end, with something like, "well I'm thinking about buying a system next year, maybe after I get my income tax check". Of course, this was usually in May, so it was 11 months to go to a "maybe".
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hellokitty[hk]
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Heh, fun...but it makes me wonder if your telling davisjaron that he may never end up building his dream computer? Or maybe i'm just thinking over stuff too much...
captaincranky
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Moritori Te Salutamos......!
I'll answer that question with a question about express and implied meanings. What does it mean when you hold up your index finger, your middle finger, and your ring finger, and tell someone to read between the lines?
I'll answer that question with a question about express and implied meanings. What does it mean when you hold up your index finger, your middle finger, and your ring finger, and tell someone to read between the lines?
davisjaron
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haha, no, i'm not one of those people thats getting the information for something i'll never buy... I really am planning on building it, I just don't have the cash right now... I've got to save up, but I want to know what I want to build so that i'll save up enough.
captaincranky
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As Rage pointed out more or less, the situation is very fluid with respect to computer hardware. For example, the Antec PSU will be off sale in a couple days. It'll be back from time to time, but who knows when, and for how much.
BIOS versions change frequently in the same motherboard, so that if you buy one now, the same board may not be plug and play with a CPU you buy six months from now.
Warranties run from the date of sale, not from the date you decide to get around to using a part. So, if you have something that's DOA, and you don't find out about it for a year, it's leftover parts for dinner again tonight dear, 'cause you're gonna eat that, nobody's cooking you a new one.
There's really no point in becoming an expert on today's parts, with tomorrow's money.
Many people that walk into Best Buy have to plunk their plastic money down on the counter on your say so. The point here being, that's something that neither they or you can escape, or perhaps that maybe you should already know the answers to the questions you're asking. How else can you advise them effectively?. (Now, it's obvious that that only applies if you sell computers at BB). But, if you don't, and work in another department, you've apparently realized what the rest of us pretty much know, and that is, better know what you're talking about before you ask the sales staff
Fly now, pay later, that's the way this business is. If you wait until next year, you still won't be able to make up your mind, since there will be something else better, faster, or louder. Oh, and don't forget other expenses. Baby needs a new pair of shoes, that's how the "song" goes.
Bottom line, whip out that credit card, and start suffering along with the rest of us.
BIOS versions change frequently in the same motherboard, so that if you buy one now, the same board may not be plug and play with a CPU you buy six months from now.
Warranties run from the date of sale, not from the date you decide to get around to using a part. So, if you have something that's DOA, and you don't find out about it for a year, it's leftover parts for dinner again tonight dear, 'cause you're gonna eat that, nobody's cooking you a new one.
Actually I didn't say you'd never buy. But, if you read my line about the income tax refund, you'd realize I've heard all of this latest material thirty years ago as well.
There's really no point in becoming an expert on today's parts, with tomorrow's money.
Many people that walk into Best Buy have to plunk their plastic money down on the counter on your say so. The point here being, that's something that neither they or you can escape, or perhaps that maybe you should already know the answers to the questions you're asking. How else can you advise them effectively?. (Now, it's obvious that that only applies if you sell computers at BB). But, if you don't, and work in another department, you've apparently realized what the rest of us pretty much know, and that is, better know what you're talking about before you ask the sales staff
Fly now, pay later, that's the way this business is. If you wait until next year, you still won't be able to make up your mind, since there will be something else better, faster, or louder. Oh, and don't forget other expenses. Baby needs a new pair of shoes, that's how the "song" goes.
Bottom line, whip out that credit card, and start suffering along with the rest of us.
davisjaron
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lol, well i was a computer specialist about 3 weeks ago but now i'm a geeksquad agent....
I don't completely agree that it would be obsolete within one year... newegg still sells, and for some reason people buy, single core processors...
"Warranties run from the date of sale, not from the date you decide to get around to using a part. So, if you have something that's DOA, and you don't find out about it for a year, it's leftover parts for dinner again tonight dear, 'cause you're gonna eat that, nobody's cooking you a new one."
that on the other hand, is something I didn't think about.
I don't completely agree that it would be obsolete within one year... newegg still sells, and for some reason people buy, single core processors...
"Warranties run from the date of sale, not from the date you decide to get around to using a part. So, if you have something that's DOA, and you don't find out about it for a year, it's leftover parts for dinner again tonight dear, 'cause you're gonna eat that, nobody's cooking you a new one."
that on the other hand, is something I didn't think about.
captaincranky
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As to being "high performance" it would easily be obsolete by comparison within a year."
I'm using an Emachines T-5026 at the moment (4 Years old). With respect to doing many things, it's still quite serviceable. Older machines than this have many applications they're capable of doing just fine. Downloading streaming hi-def video just isn't of of them.
So, the statement many people still buy single core processors, is quite likely true. In most cases this should be considered a repair part, not something to build a new machine with. So, you can still buy a P-4 Northwood in a 478 socket package. But, if you take yourself too awful serious about why you're doing this, trust me, the other children will make fun of you. look at DDR prices vs. DDR2. DDR is 2 to 3 times the price, and by any recent standards obsolete! But, if you want to upgrade an older machine, it's a lower investment than starting over. It's a repair part!
The Emachine had a 512MB DDR 400Mhz Dimm fail. I replaced it with an essentially identical chip at Microcenter. Cost $18.95 (Kingston), and that would be a pretty good price, well at least if I hadn't been able to buy a 2GB kit of Kingston DDR2 @800 MHz 3 months previously for $24.00 free shipping. Run the cost per MB out, and the DDR is almost 4 times the price. Did you know that if you multiply the price of anything times 3, that's how much it'll cost you to buy it in parts?
davisjaron
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thats one thing i hate and don't understand is why DDR prices are higher than DDR2... it cost me 40 dollars just to upgrade to 1gb of ram in my emachines... it's terrible... ha, and my processor is a socket 478... that's why i'm going to build a new one, because I can't get anything decent to swap out my current processor...
that's what I was originally planning to do...
that's what I was originally planning to do...
captaincranky
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Whip out that plastic, for fast, fast, fast relief from older equipment!
davisjaron
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i don't do credit cards... never have... and don't really plan on it either... i wouldn't see any good out of me having a credit card... i'll stick to my debit... so i'll only use money i KNOW i have...
davisjaron
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817702014&Tpk=bfg 450 power << i get this for 42.00 with my discount... i'm gonna get it that way...
captaincranky
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That's almost un-American. :suspiciou
Well, at least that's a much better PSU than those Saturday Night Specials you were looking at. BTW, exactly how how much would BB try to fire me up for that PSU, if I just walked into the store with a stupid look on my face?
davisjaron
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well i already owe almost 4000 in student loans for one year of college... i don't want any more debt than i already have...
captaincranky
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It Only Hurts When I Try to Sit Down..........
I know that feeling. I remember blurting out, "Ow, my a** ", when I realized I was going to actually have to pay that dad-burn student loan off.
I know that feeling. I remember blurting out, "Ow, my a** ", when I realized I was going to actually have to pay that dad-burn student loan off.
hellokitty[hk]
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:haha:
TBH, i would say $99.99.
Yes thats a decent powersupply choice...then again, if your not going to buy, it will seriously be cheaper later.
davisjaron
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That BFG is the same price for best buy customers as it is on newegg... but with my discount it's quite a bit cheaper.... but no, i'm not allowed to buy it right now... my fiance won't let me buy almost anything computer wise right now, it's all focused on the wedding untill it's all paid for...
captaincranky
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Student loans, wedding plans, fiance permissions, wow, I'd start thinking about an abacus.
davisjaron
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ha, well the student loans won't stop me from building the pc, they are just keeping me from wanting a credit card... i'm still going to school so they student loans are just sitting there.... it's moreso the wedding cost keeping me from the computer... but it's ok because she's worth the wait (no pun intended i was referring to the wait for the computer).
captaincranky
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Listen, you turned out to be one of those rainy afternoon customers after all.
hellokitty[hk]
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Well...then to be honest there isn't too much point in this thread anymore, post a new thread later, or you can update this thread.
So, good luck
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So, good luck
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