Nearly half of US data centers planned for 2026 are facing delays or cancellation

You started comparing something proven and tangible like AT&T and Cisco products to AI and its spawn that are used primarily to produce fake videos, lousy code, biased political lingo and help college kids cheat and produce porn!
Oops! The AI market is exponentially larger than what you've seen from playing with free LLM chatbots.

From medical diagnostics to drug research to agriculture, aerospace design, materials research, supply logistics, forensic accounting, predictive industrial maintenance, and ten thousand other fields, AI continues to revolutionize industries. But you keep driving that horseless buggy, ok?
 
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Oops! The AI market is exponentially larger than what you've seen from playing with free LLM chatbots.

From medical diagnostics to drug research to agriculture, aerospace design, materials research, supply logistics, forensic accounting, predictive industrial maintenance, and ten thousand other fields, AI continues to revolutionize industries. But you keep driving that horseless buggy, ok?
Quick question. If there was a shortage of AI, then why aren't we seeing AI rations? It's literally being given away for free
 
This AI data center scramble has resulted in land grabs that otherwise would never have been approved. The power requirements show how deficient the states have been in their mismanagement of costs/infrastructure. No real thought has been put into the long term plans and results of this reckless race to be first or have the most control over AI.
As long as the Big Tech Bros keep throwing money at Congress, governors and mayors this reckless race will continue unabated.
 
Not in the real world -- which is why AI is daily finding new medical treatments and new materials that didn't exist, daily producing better medical diagnoses, helping farmers produce higher crop yields with less water and fertilizer use, helping logistic firms distribute more goods faster, with less losses and loss fuel used, etc, etc, etc.


US jobs report yesterday came in triple the expected number of new jobs, with unemployment trending downward and inflation far below the average rate of the past administration. Oh, and the US trade deficit dropped 55% as well. And GDP growth is several times what socialist hell-holes like Romania (0.81% growth last full-year update) are seeing.

LOL, what? Even ignoring the benefits you're seeing directly in medicine and a thousand other fields, I have to ask -- do you not own even one dollar in 401Ks? You understand how those funds generate growth, right?
Yes, in the real world. Just because you say "no" doesn't make it true. Absolutely nothing that you mentioned was going to be "developed" in any of the major data centers. That's not what they're for, it's public knowledge.

"While the unemployment rate fell to 4.3% from 4.4% in February, that was because 396,000 people dropped out of the labor force, more than offsetting weakness in household employment. The labor force participation rate fell below 62% for the first time since the COVID-19 pandemic."

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"Since May 2025, each month of positive job growth has been followed by a month of negative growth, a pattern that likely reflects the tariff uncertainty that began in April," said Olu Sonola, head of U.S. economics at Fitch Ratings. (Reuters article)

In the end all you can do is take things out of context and/or lie.

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"Economists estimated the jobless rate would have risen to 4.5% were it not for the decline in the participation rate. A reduced labor force now means the economy needs to create fewer than 50,000 jobs per month to keep up with growth in the working-age population." - Reuters article

Like others have said to you time and time again: you are disconnected from reality. You cannot stop lying or twisting facts by intentionally omitting things/context. And you still support pedophiles like trump.
 
Quick question. If there was a shortage of AI, then why aren't we seeing AI rations? It's literally being given away for free
Quick answer: many firms are doing just that. OpenAI just yanked its free Sora service entirely, and several others have reduced quotas or scaled back priorities on their free services.

Better answer: your premise is faulty. These existing firms already have their compute resources. The shortage is primarily impacting new players trying to enter the market.

This AI data center scramble has resulted in land grabs that otherwise would never have been approved....
As long as the Big Tech Bros keep throwing money at Congress, governors and mayors this reckless race will continue unabated.
Land grabs? Just the 15 million illegals who entered the country during the last administration are using an amount of land for housing more than 100 times as much as all datacenters combined ... and our population density is still only a third of Europe's. Land is one thing we have plenty of.

As for this "reckless race", either the US dominates AI, or China does ... then you can recount your theories ad infinitum in a CCP reeducation camp.

"Economists estimated the jobless rate would have risen to 4.5% were it not for the decline in the participation rate.
Oops! You mean a hypothetical 4.5% rate that is still dramatically below the historical US unemployment rate of 5.8%? That the rate you mean?

The labor force participation rate has been steadily dropping since the year 2000. Under Obama alone, it dropped from 66% down to 62.9%, the fastest decline in US history.


Note that Trump's first term actually managed to reverse that trend-- until Covid struck. Biden never managed to even regain pre-Covid levels, and in fact lost labor force participation his entire last year in office.

Facts matter.
 
Quick answer: many firms are doing just that. OpenAI just yanked its free Sora service entirely, and several others have reduced quotas or scaled back priorities on their free services.

Better answer: your premise is faulty. These existing firms already have their compute resources. The shortage is primarily impacting new players trying to enter the market.


Land grabs? Just the 15 million illegals who entered the country during the last administration are using an amount of land for housing more than 100 times as much as all datacenters combined ... and our population density is still only a third of Europe's. Land is one thing we have plenty of.

As for this "reckless race", either the US dominates AI, or China does ... then you can recount your theories ad infinitum in a CCP reeducation camp.


Oops! You mean a hypothetical 4.5% rate that is still dramatically below the historical US unemployment rate of 5.8%? That the rate you mean?

The labor force participation rate has been steadily dropping since the year 2000. Under Obama alone, it dropped from 66% down to 62.9%, the fastest decline in US history.


Note that Trump's first term actually managed to reverse that trend-- until Covid struck. Biden never managed to even regain pre-Covid levels, and in fact lost labor force participation his entire last year in office.

Facts matter.
"Note that Trump's first term actually managed to reverse that trend" - no he didn't.
"Biden never managed to even regain pre-Covid levels" - who knew that the best post-covid economic recovery in the world was "bad" for you. it's like you don't like the fact that the US did so well under Biden.

Ah yes, talking about "historic levels", not the current state of the US. Nice way to deflect again. You don't like it when the context is added at all because it exposes your lies.

"the fastest decline in US history" - another bold lie. here's a hint: it wasn't.


"Since the final quarter of 2007, the labor force participation rate has fallen from 65.9 percent to 62.8 percent in the second quarter of 2014" - this includes 2008 and the big recession where people lost their jobs which was not under Obama, but under Bush.

In 2015-2016 it started going back up to 63 before Trump took office. Before COVID it went to 63.2 and it was all thanks to the things Obama implemented to fix this problem (as per the document above). Trump never did anything about it, he just took Obama's achievements and ran with it. And once he had to deal with a crisis he failed miserably.

In the end all Trump managed to do is rape children while bragging about watching them naked at pageants he was "boss" at. And you are supporting this.
 
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"Note that Trump's first term actually managed to reverse that trend" - no he didn't.
Are you able to read a simple line graph? The labor participation rate climbed from 62.8% at Trump's election to 63.3% at the start of Covid. A full half-point rise, which was especially impressive contrasted to Obama losing more than three full points.


it's like you don't like the fact that the US did so well under Biden.
9.1% inflation, $5 gas,and 15 million criminal illegals? No thanks.

Ah yes, talking about "historic levels", not the current state of the US. Nice way to deflect again.
When Biden left office, the labor force participation rate had been declining for a full 18 months, unemployment rising for nearly two years, and inflation in his last three months in office was 4.* annually -- double the current rate. Try again.


the fastest decline in US history" - another bold lie. here's a hint: it wasn't.
Obama's own government statistics call that a lie.


In the end all Trump managed to do is rape children
The true pedophiles are those who said nothing while Obama shielded Epstein from federal prosecution for eight full years, just to protect the Clintons. Those who asked Biden to run for president, after learning he showered with his own underage daughter until she turned age 14. And you support all this. Why?
 
"Note that Trump's first term actually managed to reverse that trend" - no he didn't.
"Biden never managed to even regain pre-Covid levels" - who knew that the best post-covid economic recovery in the world was "bad" for you. it's like you don't like the fact that the US did so well under Biden.

Ah yes, talking about "historic levels", not the current state of the US. Nice way to deflect again. You don't like it when the context is added at all because it exposes your lies.

"the fastest decline in US history" - another bold lie. here's a hint: it wasn't.


"Since the final quarter of 2007, the labor force participation rate has fallen from 65.9 percent to 62.8 percent in the second quarter of 2014" - this includes 2008 and the big recession where people lost their jobs which was not under Obama, but under Bush.

In 2015-2016 it started going back up to 63 before Trump took office. Before COVID it went to 63.2 and it was all thanks to the things Obama implemented to fix this problem (as per the document above). Trump never did anything about it, he just took Obama's achievements and ran with it. And once he had to deal with a crisis he failed miserably.

In the end all Trump managed to do is rape children while bragging about watching them naked at pageants he was "boss" at. And you are supporting this.
""Note that Trump's first term actually managed to reverse that trend" - no he didn't."
Yes, he did. Unless you're saying the labor force participation data is wrong. It trended upward from 2016 to early 2020. Last I checked, Trump was in office at that time. It was 62.7 before Trump, and spent most of its time at 63 under trump. Ergo, under Trump a longstanding trend reversed.

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""Biden never managed to even regain pre-Covid levels" - who knew that the best post-covid economic recovery in the world was "bad" for you. it's like you don't like the fact that the US did so well under Biden."
Again, the data says you are wrong. Biden topped out at 62.7, which is below the 63.3 we were at before Red Lung.

Endymio is wrong about a lot, but delving into terminal Trump Derangement Syndrome isnt helping your case at all. If we're going to ascribe everything that happened under Trump to Obama, then by that logic we can ascribe Obama's higher labor force participation rate to Bush's politics instead of Barracks. After all, he inherited that economy and just ran with it.

Or we can look at the economic data without getting wrapped up in red VS blue politics. Yes, by historic data, the current labor rate isnt that bad and people are pulling a chicken little. It's also true that the rate is below that of the worst of the GFC and that is cause for concern, especially when coupled with reports of people struggling to find work. But we also know that AI, as a tool, is largely overblown and being used as an excuse for corporations to shed the fat they put on during COVID where they WAY overhired, and now that investment dollars are drying up layoffs are rocking the economy, but mostly focused on things like HR, marketing, and recruiting, and not jobs that actually produce things. Tech is the odd man out here as actual production jobs are being lost.

Some of us were calling this out years ago, that the massive financial losses and bloated offices full of useless employees wasnt going to last forever. And here we are.
 
Oops! The AI market is exponentially larger than what you've seen from playing with free LLM chatbots.

From medical diagnostics to drug research to agriculture, aerospace design, materials research, supply logistics, forensic accounting, predictive industrial maintenance, and ten thousand other fields, AI continues to revolutionize industries. But you keep driving that horseless buggy, ok?

You do now know what "exponentially" means, nor do you know which exponent you believe you are referring to.
 
You do now know what "exponentially" means, nor do you know which exponent you believe you are referring to.
My exponent was pi*sqrt(163), from Ramanujan's constant.

Or, more seriously, if you'll excuse my vernacular use of the term 'exponential', I'll excuse your misuse of the word "nor".
 
Not in the real world -- which is why AI is daily finding new medical treatments and new materials that didn't exist, daily producing better medical diagnoses, helping farmers produce higher crop yields with less water and fertilizer use, helping logistic firms distribute more goods faster, with less losses and loss fuel used, etc, etc, etc.


US jobs report yesterday came in triple the expected number of new jobs, with unemployment trending downward and inflation far below the average rate of the past administration. Oh, and the US trade deficit dropped 55% as well. And GDP growth is several times what socialist hell-holes like Romania (0.81% growth last full-year update) are seeing.

LOL, what? Even ignoring the benefits you're seeing directly in medicine and a thousand other fields, I have to ask -- do you not own even one dollar in 401Ks? You understand how those funds generate growth, right?

OOOOOHH your an AI agent aren't you? Your sentence structure ... your totally AI or posting AI replies.

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You are disconnected from reality and I don't have the time to satisfy your ego by correcting everything wrong with this post.

But I will leave you with this. I work commercial construction. We built several data centers last year, not a single one is operating at full power. We stopped accepting contracts for data centers because the contracts are basically a lie that companies can show investors. We have stopped being a puppet for these executives to siphon money from investors. The checks stopped coming, We had to reallocate our workers to other jobs because they just aren't being built. Believe me if you want, or don't. But these fake data centers has cost us hundreds of millions. This article confirms what I've been saying for over a year and a year from now we'll be reading articles about how data centers were never built and the fraud committed by executives stealing PE and investor money.
Click on his profile and click ignore - I can't recommend it highly enough. Life's too short. Also, I can't see his direct replies to me but still see quoted responses so you'll be doing me a favour!
 
I applaud the use of big A.I for medical research and science. A.I. has already had real world benefits in the field of medicine. It's up and running.

But. Most of the other companies attempting to set up these "vaporware A.I" Data centers most certainly are not doing so for the benefit of human kind.
Quite the opposite.
The majority are jumping on the bandwagon for profit, staffing cuts etc... and failing as @ yRaz has pointed out so well.

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("a lie that companies can show investors") is just one good example of his comments on this topic.
 
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Most of the other companies attempting to set up these "vaporware A.I" Data centers most certainly are not doing so for the benefit of human kind.
Quite the opposite.
The majority are jumping on the bandwagon for profit,
A basic understanding of economics should be requirement to vote in any democracy. A company converts resources into products and services, and "profit" is a measure -- indeed, our only measure -- for how efficiently it does so. If every company in the US had zero profit, we'd have no economy at all. Zero.

At its height, the USSR had the highest number of scientists and engineers in the world, several times that of the US. Soviets put the first man in space, and were sending probes to Venus a decade before the US landed a man on the moon -- yet the entire country couldn't produce jeans for its own citizens -- or most any other consumer good. Because they refused to admit the necessity of profit for business and industry.

At this point, @yRaz will shout "but AI companies aren't making a profit!". I'm invested in several that are indeed turning massive profits ... and most of the rest are following Amazon's initial tactic of sacrificing profits for growth ... a tactic that worked very well.

OOOOOHH your an AI agent aren't you? Your sentence structure ... your totally AI or posting AI replies.
Yes, and as an AI agent, I'm impelled to correct at least some of the prolific spelling and grammatical errors in your post, starting with confusion of the words "your" and "you're".
 
To these corporations wanting to build more data centers. Try purging a lot of the consumer data you have been collecting by the megabyte and hoarding by the petabyte, then you will have plenty of space for your equally useless AI data stolen from the Internet!!
 
What people need to be asking now is where is the money going for all these data centers because the checks aren't coming to build them.

When the too big to fail AI companies become shaky, I bet our taxpayers will bail them out again.

On another note, maybe this will finally drop RAM and GPU prices.
 
A basic understanding of economics should be requirement to vote in any democracy.

That would count you out since you're the guy who falsely claimed Biden had 6%+ inflation rate in his last year 2024 by cherry picking the worst month to month inflation increases (and further cherry picking urban CPI figures no less) for his last months in office and multiplied it by 12 to create a fictional number for the entire year.

That's not how economists calculate annual inflation.

Actual economists calculated 2024 inflation at ~2.9% by taking the actual inflation numbers recorded multiple times throughout the year, not by taking the changes from a single cherry picked month for only urban consumers and multiplying it by 12.

Even common sense would tell us to avoid using only a single data point to account for the month to month up and down swings that would skew the data if taken alone.
 
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That would count you out since you're the guy who falsely claimed Biden had 6%+ inflation rate in his last year 2024 by cherry picking the worst month to month inflation increases (and further cherry picking urban CPI figures no less) for his last months in office and multiplied it by 12 to create a fictional number for the entire year.

That's not how economists calculate annual inflation.
Why lie? And why not learn math? Partial year data is annualized by a simple process. I didn't claim Biden "had 6% inflation in his last year". Nor did I use a single month's data. I stated -- correctly -- that inflation in Biden's final three months of office annualized to 4.8%. And that inflation had been on upward trend for the final seven months of his term. Both statements are correct. See official US BLS data below.

 
I appreciate every company that at least attempts to build its own power source.
Although it is possible that they began to do it only when they realized there was not enough power from the public power grid anyway.
 
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