Non-profit ISP start up promises fully encrypted, private Internet

By Rick · 29 replies
Apr 11, 2012
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  1. In an editorial piece by Cnet, Nicholas Merrill describes his upcoming Internet service, Calyx, as a "non-profit telecommunications provider dedicated to privacy, using ubiquitous encryption". According to Merrill, his goal…

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  2. I fully support everything this guy is trying do achieve. Here's to hoping that he can make this possible...
  3. I would like to see this happen.
  4. i hope this comes to the uk id pay extra for the service
  5. Lionvibez

    Lionvibez TS Evangelist Posts: 1,265   +436

    Good luck with that.

    I don't see them allowing this in the UK at all.
  6. If this works, I predict pedophiles, criminals, spammers, terrorists, etc. will flock to this service and then the Government will create new laws that makes the ISP be able to decrypt data and provide the information they want. Bottom line, this sounds like a good idea in theory, not so much in practice.
  7. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,996   +2,528

    And we're absolutely certain this isn't a honeypot for the FBI, NSA, etc?
  8. @CaptainCranky

    The guy does look kinda sketchy, I'd be willing to bet this is some new tactic the FBI is using to catch people.
  9. Tygerstrike

    Tygerstrike TS Enthusiast Posts: 827   +93


    It prolly is. More then likely they may want ppl to jump on this. That way they have all the ppl who want the privacy to do whatever, under one umbrella. It would be a scream if it was true. Not that I would ever need that level of privacy but it is a great idea in principle. However if RIAA/MPAA have their way this will be shot down and the next information we hear about it, is that the this guy is found dead. Choked to death on his mouse or something.
  10. celebration time for the paedophiles and terrorists
  11. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,742   +421

    I don't get the feeling that this guy is working with the government.

    Also, every time some ISP does something "bad" we all comment that if you don't like it, get a new ISP. But then there is the inevitable comeback that there is no alternative. This guy is making the alternative.
  12. >Also, every time some ISP does something "bad" we all comment that if you don't like it, get a new ISP. But then there is the inevitable comeback that there is no alternative. This guy is making the alternative.

    This JULY 2012, the majority of the major USA ISP will be implementing the "Three Strikes" agreement that was promoted by the RIAA, MPAA, and various other intellectual property companies to prevent undesirable file sharing. A common database will be used to share information. It is worded as "Six Strikes" to appease politicians, but from the consumers' viewpoint is realistically more like "Three Strikes".

    Sharing info about alleged activities prevents alleged bad users from taking their business to a different ISP which was the main method users had to prevent ISP from enforcing onerous measures on their customers. In the new system, moving to a new ISP will not cause the user to have a "new record" because all the allegations and warnings will be available in the database for the new ISP to use. By having the initial framework and infrastructure costs underwritten by the IP firms, and removing the fear that customers would leave an ISP to go to a new one, the graduated response Three Strikes agreement seems to be the most effective approach yet. It addresses the fear that ISP have about losing customers. By having no alternatives for customers to go to, the Three Strikes agreement of graduated response will work.

    Another feature of the Three Strikes agreement is that it is crafted to avoid triggering usa constitutional defenses. Thus, customers cannot defeat it with #1 or #4 amendments. It doesn't always require termination of the customer's account, but instead allows for bandwidth throttling down to 56K dialup speeds even though you had paid for verizon FiOS rates. If the user quits an annual plan, he would have to first buy out the plan per TOS (ouch) and then move to another ISP with similar FiOS speed. But at that point, the user would find that the graduated response Three Strikes agreement causes the user to once again get dialup speed from the new ISP even if it is Comcast. Yes, comcast, verizon, and other major ISP are members of the industry plan.

    Because the agreement is not about legal convictions, concepts like "person of interest" or "alleged" copyright violations may be kept in the database and shared by the member companies for use against unruly customers. Another benefit is that if the unruly customer has someone else in the same household purchase the internet account, the ISP would be able to continue to enforce the throttling activity at the point where the unruly customer is continuing to perform alleged bad behaviour.
  13. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,978   +15

    Did you guys just read the NSA's new super center in Utah that TS posted about? They are building a super center to record all of the information over the internet / networks in its entirety, then building mass server hass in hopes to harness the massive amounts of computing power needed to decrypt the encryption.

    So hopefully this ISP's encryption isnt easily subsided.
  14. fimbles

    fimbles TS Evangelist Posts: 1,185   +208

    Since i dont do anything i would call highly illigal apart from watching "pirate" videos on you tube and the odd torrent i realy would not be intrested in this.

    Im sure there are plenty of peadophiles, hackers, ect who would.
  15. As if they have not already been using encryption for decades.....
  16. ISP's should be non-profit anyways. I also support the private part. It should not be the ISP's responsibility to police the internet. They have other ways of discovering criminals and finding them.
  17. Tomorrow_Rains

    Tomorrow_Rains TS Enthusiast Posts: 156

    Good Luck with the three strikes deal,

    I'm behind seven proxies
  18. Tomorrow_Rains

    Tomorrow_Rains TS Enthusiast Posts: 156

    I feel as if every time someone comments with "Now the pedophiles and terrorists will benefit from this" it sounds like world war 2 propaganda "The Russians will benefit from you drinking alcohol"

    Think about it, Silly and preposterous... There are many options for these pedophiles and terrorists considering they're not getting caught.
  19. TorturedChaos

    TorturedChaos TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 839   +29

    I think this is a wonderful idea. Full encryption on everything i do so that my ISP doens't even know what have been looking at? YES PLEASE!!
    Do I do anything that requires that short of security, well not really. Check my bank account online sometimes but that already has SSL built into it. Why do I like this then? Because I don't like people spying on me even if I'm doing nothing wrong!!!!
    If this is a legitimate service I really home it comes to my area in the near future. And I hope the idea catches on.
  20. internet usage encryption needs to start at the users level, not the ISP level. so what ever you send over the internet is masked, and can only be unmasked by you.

    or did you guys forget the FBI freak out during the 90s, over user generated encryption and decryption protocals.
  21. In today's govt this just seems too good to be true... which is not right in the first place.
  22. sapo joe

    sapo joe TS Member Posts: 81   +6

    I hope this ISP comes to Brazil one day. And I really support and believe on freedom over internet again!
  23. PinothyJ

    PinothyJ TS Guru Posts: 460   +22

    Well that is ignorant. Those parties would already be using the Dark Net and so an encrypted ISP will not do much for them.

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  24. This guy is cutting edge. I totally support this minimalist approach to ISP service. One less entity for the government to keep in their pocket.
  25. This really should happen. I'd make a contribution!

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