Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Super Review: Are We Finally Getting Good Value?

[manowar51]

I have a 3070TI laptop that handles any game at 1440p at more than playable frame rates. And this includes with RT on in most cases. There appears to be a big myth in the PC gaming community that you need a 4090 to scrape through with ray tracing but that's just not true, it really depends on the game. And personally, I love it, I think turning RT on makes a far bigger difference than going from medium to ultra settings in general, although once again it depends on the game.

My laptop runs Cyberpunk with RT on at 60fps. It looks great! If you turn it off you get about 80fps but in that game I would rather have the RT, you dont need those 20 extra frames for a story orientated game like that. But I did turn RT off on Ghostrunner because that style of game is more fun with a crazy high frame rate. Its nice to have the option and personally I wouldnt spend $500+ on a card that a reviewer recommends turning RT off for (Radeon).

 

[redgarl]

I went specifically bought a 6700xt because of Linux compatibility. It takes about a year to become adequately acquainted with Linux. I'm done with windows and I'm done with nVidia. Linux Mint is a fantastic place to start. I'm of the opinion that linux is at the windows XP level of jankiness but it also doesn't hide anything from you like windows 10 and 11 do so there is a trade off. It's gotten to the point where if you can build a PC you can daily Linux.

I wish I could be doing that, but too many games in DX for me. I am trap on Windows until steam can do something about it.

 

[redgarl]

Ray tracing does look good on the right hardware. Just that hardware is currently expensive. Can’t argue it doesn’t look better when it’s not impacting framerates. Saying it’s completely unnecessary is like when 3DFX was arguing no one wanted 32bit color.

Ray Tracing is gimmick. It is not looking better most of the time, it is only looking different. Unless you are in a dark room with candles in The Witcher 3, you can`t barely see it.

Since the best developers can micmic light effect with low compute cost, there is simply no point with RT beside giving an option for devs to cut corners and going lazy in the optimization department.

Not to mention that it is introducing important artifacts with shadows that are distracting enough to be annoying.

RT, as it is, has no use in gaming, it is killing performance, it is degrading image quality and the experience. You need to use upscalling for using it, and using an upscaller is degrading the image fidelity even more than RT can uplift alone.

AW2 on a 4090 run at 20FPS with RT at 2160p.

 

[yRaz]

I wish I could be doing that, but too many games in DX for me. I am trap on Windows until steam can do something about it.

It takes like 30 minutes of actually trying to get WINE to work before you can apply it to anything. Most people give up after less than 5 minutes and resintall windows. Not that there is really anything wrong with that, but you can get anything to work in Linux outside of always on DRM or multiplayer games that don't allow it. You can use DX in Linux, it's not hard

 

[redgarl]

No, they pay $600 to get higher frame-rates at the settings they enjoy.

A 7900XT is beating the 4070 TI and the 4070 Super while being on par in RT. AMD is kicking Nvidia butt up to the 4090.

 

[Strawman]

A 7900XT is beating the 4070 TI and the 4070 Super while being on par in RT. AMD is kicking Nvidia butt up to the 4090.

Stahp. It's not on par in RT.

 

[Gee Key]

You seem to think we will be returning to the days of sub-$500 top tier cards and sub$250 mid tier. Sadly inflation doesn't work that way. So instead of bemoaning price, ask your boss for a raise and tell them inflation sucks. If they refuse, find a better paying job. Barring either of those options, save your money for one extra month or two for a card that, in all reality, will last you several years at least.

I dont think these gpu prices have much to do with inflation. If inlation is the issue shouldnt that reflect to cpu, mbo, ssd etc prices too...

 

[mbk34]

I stopped reading at "$600".

 

[WhoCaresAnymore]

Still not a good value. Argue all you want, but the average Joe is not going to spend that kind of money, when groceries are about double what they were a few years ago.

 

[ZedRM]

You’re confused by what binning is.

No, I'm not. I'm sidestepping your argument in favor of the big-picture perspective. Get with the flow, bro.

 

[LetTheWookieWin]

No, I'm not. I'm sidestepping your argument is favor of the big-picture perspective. Get with the flow, bro.

I’m unclear what your “big picture” position is, and you haven’t coherently articulated what part of my perspective you disagree with. I guess we’ll just agree to disagree.

 

[ZedRM]

I guess we’ll just agree to disagree.

Ok, let's do that.