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Phantasm66 peer to peer problem

By 3DD · 15 replies
Nov 15, 2002
  1. https://www.techspot.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=2687

    Phantasm66, i think you may have already answered some of my problem...................ref the above thread?????? i didn't know i needed 2 adapters in server!

    Do i put the same ip address in both adapters on my server.............................is there a link to a site that would tell me.

    Many thanks
  2. 3DD

    3DD TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 42

  3. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Posts: 5,734   +7


    Sorry, I want to help you, but I don't have a clue what it is that you are trying to do.... My post in the thread you referenced was on sharing a cable modem connection on a home LAN.... is that what you are trying to do?
    If you clarify that then I can help you.
  4. 3DD

    3DD TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 42

    Hi, thanks but firstly see my first post about the problem.......

    I basically can't get a ping from one pc to another, i will eventually have internet sharing and i thought from your other thread i had to have 2 nics in the main pc, what i am getting is a t second adapter show up when i do ipconfig in msdos?
  5. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Posts: 5,734   +7

    OK I am still not too clear what you are talking about, but I thought that I gave the answer here:

    This is assuming that you use a network card to connect to your cable modem. If you use USB then you only need 2 network cards (one in each machine not two in both....)

    I don't know how to explain things any more clearly than I have in the post.
  6. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Posts: 5,734   +7

    the ability for the two cards on your local LAN (one of which is on one of the cross over cable in the server and the other is in the client machine on the other end of the cable) to ping each other happens because when you enable internet connection sharing these two cards get their tcp/ip details from an internal DHCP server on your server machine, which puts them both into the same subnet.

    if all you have done is just put a card in each machine and then connected the cable, you probably won't be able to ping, because each machine will have its address allocated by its own internet dhcp, which will probably put them both on different subnets.

    without internet connection sharing running, you would have to run a dhcp service that's correctly configured, or you would have to assign static addresses to the two cards, one with IP address and one with, both with subnet mask of

    I think it would be better for you to explain EXACTLY what you are trying to do, EXACTLY what stage you are at and EXACTLY what the problem is. Help us to help you.
  7. 3DD

    3DD TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 42

    Yep, i havn't made it too clear so far, i'll attempt again to give you a clear picture.....

    I have 2 pc's
    Master with a lan on K7s5a mobo 3.1
    Client with pci/adapter installed also with K7s5a mobo3.1(no lan)
    cap5e crossover cable installed
    Master ip s/net
    Client ip s/net

    I have done a loop ping on both machines .....ok

    when i ping client from master i get ....transmit failed error code 10050.

    when i ping master from client i get ...........request timed out.

    when on master the ipconfig shows two adapters............. adapter 0. with an ip addresss or sometimes
    also adapter 1. ip address s/net

    when on client the ipconfig shows adapter 0. ip address s/net

    I have checked device manager and adapters ok.
    in both machines n/neighbour only shows files on it's own pc and not the other.
    I have not touched gateway, wins or dns, config and i am using a bt broadband usb connection to internet.

    i have checked pc/names and workgroups are the same.

    To check cat cable ok i have disconnected and used a friends hub to connect with correct cables and i have green lights to go on hub.

    Hope this helps.....many thanks. :)
  8. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Posts: 5,734   +7

    that's better :)

    Now, can you first of all post the results of the following:

    go on to master, run this command:

    ipconfig /all > ipconfig.txt
    notepad ipconfig.txt

    this will open notepad, copy and paste data from it here.

    Now, can each machine ping its OWN IP?

    Can master ping
    Can client ping

    Have you the right type of cable?

    crossover cable to directly connect two machines with no hub.


    two sets of straight-through cables, one from master to hub, one from client to hub.

    to directly connect from machine to machine WITH NO HUB you need a different type of cable from the usual one (i.e. a cross over cable.)
  9. 3DD

    3DD TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 42


    Windows 98 IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . : ATHLON

    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . :

    Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast

    NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :

    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No

    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No

    NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No

    0 Ethernet adapter :

    Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.

    Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00

    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

    IP Address. . . . . . . . . :

    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . :

    Default Gateway . . . . . . :

    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . :

    Primary WINS Server . . . . :

    Secondary WINS Server . . . :

    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 01 80 0:00:00

    Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 01 01 80 0:00:00

    1 Ethernet adapter :

    Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC

    Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-E0-4C-6C-F7-32

    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    IP Address. . . . . . . . . :

    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . :

    Default Gateway . . . . . . :

    Primary WINS Server . . . . :

    Secondary WINS Server . . . :

    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :

    Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

    pinging itself same as previous post.......error code and timeout.
    i installed what i had ordered which was cat5e crossover cable, to check weather the crossover cable was working i have tested connection with friends hub with straight cats.....and have green lights.
  10. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Posts: 5,734   +7

    when you ping YOURSELF you get an error and a timeout?

    on which machine, master or client?

    In any case, that machine has a problem with its network card drivers or tcp/ip stack.

    on machine with problem:

    remove NIC card from device manager, when offered to reboot don't.

    go into network settings, remove tcp/ip


    reinstall network card drivers (try to get later ones if possible)


    re-add tcp/ip (requires windows 98 cd)



    for the each adapter that's part of your local LAN (i.e. there's one in the master and one in the client), ensure that both are on the same subnet mask (i.e. its for both) and that the IP's only difference on each is the fourth octet (i.e. the 192.168.0 bit is the same, only the last section after third dot is different)
  11. 3DD

    3DD TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 42

    Phantasm66.........my correction when master pings itself i get error code 10050

    when client pings itself...successfull ping.
  12. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Posts: 5,734   +7

    source: http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBJ/tip4700/rh4777.htm

    see also:


    If you have zone alarm, try turning security setting to medium for internet and low for internet LAN. ensure your internal LAN adapter is marked as trusted.
  13. 3DD

    3DD TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 42

    Phantasm66.....i have changed driver to match both nics now ( as one was older than the other)

    Tweaked Zonealarm and now the master pings itself successfully.

    So they are now both pinging themselves...........................but i get the timed out response when i try to ping each other machine?
  14. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Posts: 5,734   +7

    did you read the part of my post about the type of cable you are using? are you using a cross-over cable directly between the two NICs, or are you using one straight through from each NIC to a hub?
  15. 3DD

    3DD TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 42

    Phantasm66...........................cracked it, sharing files alls ok, double checked and found i had deleted adapter in client by mistake, so changing drivers and tweaking zonealarm did it.

    Thanks to you......................

    Now internet sharing............i know it's in win98, do i just go through wizard on master to config i/sharing but what about the copied floppy.............not sure what to do with client.

    I am using usb bt broadband can you point me in the right direction. :grinthumb
  16. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Posts: 5,734   +7

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