Samsung unveils new PCIe 4.0 SSDs that "never die"

midian182

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Samsung’s PM1733 and PM1735 series come in 19 different models covering the HHHL (card-type) and 2.5-inch U.2 formats. Designed for use in servers and data centers, their storage ranges from 0.8TB right up to a massive 30.72TB.

There has been a lot of buzz around the PCIe 4.0 standard since the arrival of AMD’s Ryzen 3000 series CPUs and the X570 platform, with companies such as Gigabyte and Sabrent offering lightning-fast SSDs that take advantage of the massive bandwidth.

Samsung’s new SSDs also use PCIe 4.0, allowing them to reach sequential write speeds of 3,800MB/s. Sequential reads are even more impressive: 6,400MB/s for the U.2 drives and 8,000MB/s for the card-type versions.

But the most compelling feature of these drives could be their ‘fail-in-place’ (FIP) software. It works by detecting any faulty NAND chips on the SSD, scanning for any damage, then moving the data into working chips. This means normal operations can continue even when errors occur at chip-level, enabling what Samsung calls a “never-dying SSD.” The drives “also ensure endurance of one or three drive writes per day (DWPD) over a five-year period.”

The drives come with Samsung’s virtualization technology, allowing a single SSD to be divided into a maximum of 64 smaller SSDs, providing virtual workspaces for multiple users. They also feature machine learning tech to ensure superior data reliability.

Samsung has yet to reveal pricing or availability for its new PCIe Gen4 SSD lineup.

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Uncle Al

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"Samsung never revealed pricing or availability of its new PCIe Gen4 SSD lineup"

Sounds like the term "Vaporware" applies to this one ... at least for the time being .....
 

kira setsu

TS Addict
"Samsung never revealed pricing or availability of its new PCIe Gen4 SSD lineup"

Sounds like the term "Vaporware" applies to this one ... at least for the time being .....
just means the average person reading this article wouldnt be able to afford them is all.

in a way I respect that technique, the tech sounds amazing, knowing they cost an arm and a leg would make the article depressing and overshadow everything else.
 

VitalyT

Russ-Puss
Samsung, already one of the market leaders when it comes to solid-state drives, could cement its position at the top
Not true. Samsung is losing its ground and quick. New products like Sabrent M.2 take the market away real quick. Offering 2TB M.2 for PCI-Express 4.0 for just $400, with outstanding performance and reviews, it shakes the ground under Samsung who offers products way more expensive.
 

hahahanoobs

TS Evangelist
"Samsung never revealed pricing or availability of its new PCIe Gen4 SSD lineup"

Sounds like the term "Vaporware" applies to this one ... at least for the time being .....
just means the average person reading this article wouldnt be able to afford them is all.

in a way I respect that technique, the tech sounds amazing, knowing they cost an arm and a leg would make the article depressing and overshadow everything else.
There's drives aren't for average consumers....
 
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I completely abandoned HDD in favor of Crucial SSD for my OS, gaming and video editing.
The only HDD I still use is for backups and in my Network access Server.

I look forward to the years from now when all servers are SSD and HDD are completely phased out.
 

Ravalo

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"Samsung never revealed pricing or availability of its new PCIe Gen4 SSD lineup"

Sounds like the term "Vaporware" applies to this one ... at least for the time being .....
I read “vaporwave” instead of “vaporware” lol
 

thelatestmodel

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"Samsung never revealed pricing or availability of its new PCIe Gen4 SSD lineup"

Sounds like the term "Vaporware" applies to this one ... at least for the time being .....
Sounds like somebody needs to read up on the definition of the term vaporware.

A product not having a price or release date does not make it vaporware.

It takes many instances of missed release dates and lack of information from the manufacturer which leads people to begin to doubt its existence. I don't think that applies here.
 

p51d007

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There was an old James Bond movie (actually a remake) called "Never Say Never".
Hey Sammy...remember the Note phone battery issue?
 

Darth Shiv

TS Evangelist
Samsung, already one of the market leaders when it comes to solid-state drives, could cement its position at the top
Not true. Samsung is losing its ground and quick. New products like Sabrent M.2 take the market away real quick. Offering 2TB M.2 for PCI-Express 4.0 for just $400, with outstanding performance and reviews, it shakes the ground under Samsung who offers products way more expensive.
That sounds like a great marketing puff piece. Sabrent does not have the market testing Samsung has. Newcomers to the market vs a well established proven leader? They will need something like big OEM contracts to come anywhere near convincing me they are worth considering.
 

Darth Shiv

TS Evangelist
"Samsung never revealed pricing or availability of its new PCIe Gen4 SSD lineup"

Sounds like the term "Vaporware" applies to this one ... at least for the time being .....
Sounds like somebody needs to read up on the definition of the term vaporware.

A product not having a price or release date does not make it vaporware.

It takes many instances of missed release dates and lack of information from the manufacturer which leads people to begin to doubt its existence. I don't think that applies here.
Yep having products remotely close to the new offering from a well established player with a great track record of delivering and especially considering if you know even the smallest amount about SSD wear endurance to date, you know what their claims actually mean. It means for the practical life of the drive, 99% of users are not going to wear it out. It's just impossible with current home user loads and even most commercial loads. The amount of writing needed to test it is a super heavy specialised load.

So yes this isn't remotely close to being vaporware. Their only major change is software!
 

Crash3102

TS Rookie
You mean like the 2 plus years Intel promised 10nm processors and took so long everyone passed them buy then decides to price them according to the wait no wonder why so many are switching not including the socket swap every 2nd generation of CPU Intel forces on consumers definitely "vaporware" looks like the blue team is just like the politics they put up
 

PEnnn

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"Samsung unveils new PCIe 4.0 SSDs that "never die""

I would like to see the 12+ pages of fine print and disclaimers for this product when it's released.
 

Adhmuz

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"never die" yet likely has a 5 year warranty...

The funny thing is they actually admit the NAND will inevitably fail and the data will be retroactively moved to keep from losses occurring, which is a nice feature, but that means the NAND is still going to die... I guess calling them "never lose data" would have been to forthcoming.
 

winston444

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I used to work for a company that would have us tech writers get with the engineers for a few afternoons, kick around scenarios "Is this possible? Do you think this will work." Then the engineers would scratch their heads, "Well, in theory, I don't see why not." Then I'd be tasked with going to the trade shows: "We can promise speeds up to. . . "
 

Decodertech

TS Rookie
Its still bad for people who could just afford one of the PCIe 4.0 SSD's buth only have one slot available and is taken up by a graphics card already. Sad :(
 

Vulcanproject

TS Evangelist
Samsung have lead in SSDs for a long time, and I always went to them for boot drives. Reliability, reputation, performance.

However at this stage I'm considering moving onto something else for cost reasons. Crucial, Intel, plus Sabrent's lines are really attractive. Phison's controllers are very good. Yes they are slower, no I don't expect them to last quite as long but we are reaching a point where neither factor matters that much.

Not to the average consumer anyway.

By that I mean even a 'slow' proper PCIe drive is so fast you would be hard pressed to pick them apart at a practical level, and their endurance is so good the worst ones will last you 5 years at which point you'll probably be ditching it anyway.

I was looking at real world tests and it made me go towards this conclusion. When the likes of the 970 Evo Plus Samsung drives cut basically one second off game loading or common tasks but cost twice as much the value is irresistible of rival 'budget' drives.
 
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