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Sony unveils the PlayStation 4, coming this holiday season

By Shawn Knight ยท 105 replies
Feb 20, 2013
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  1. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,041   +793

    they were talking about individual characters, not entire scenes. Watch the event and you'd have known.
    ghasmanjr likes this.
  2. fimbles

    fimbles TS Evangelist Posts: 1,171   +203

    Happy to see the new consoles finally arriving, Wont be buying one, but console ports will be much more bearable now.
  3. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Evangelist Posts: 846   +102

    It's Unified Memory meaning it's both system and video card memory.
  4. danhodge

    danhodge TS Member Posts: 80   +13

    Okay guys, I think this is a bit of a misprint.

    Didn't they say it would have 8GB of RAM, and it would have GDDR5 on its graphics card (without giving it a number)?

    8GB of GDDR5 sounds ridiculous for the power of the graphics card they will be using.
  5. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,041   +793

    Nope, if a dev wanted to, they could use the whole 8GB for the Graphics card, its unified memory is what they said.
    spydercanopus likes this.
  6. Slayter

    Slayter TS Rookie

    "its like buying an xbox360 even you have a ps3"

    How can anyone possibly understand? This makes no sense. It's not even a real sentence.
    Burty117 likes this.
  7. 3 way SLI try 18GB GDDR5!!!!!!!!

    Yeah but you have to cough up $3000 for that 18gb
  8. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 7,986   +2,879

    Yeah and pigs can fly. The 8 gigs is system RAM, not video RAM.
    Sunny87 likes this.
  9. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    The rumor is 429 and 529
  10. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    I guess the Dual Shock 4 is the PS4 lol. I really wasted my time watching this stream for like 2 hours... and not even seeing the console.
    Slayter likes this.
  11. Ps4 is just ps3 over again, only with beefed up graphics.
    This is becoming more of an american social network entertainment pc box, might as well go for the Xbox.
    Playstation isn't what it is just to be...where are the japanese inhouse game developers?
    Every original A-title that made the ps1 and ps2 big, is not there anymore and every japanese game project is being outsourced to eastern europe and american game companies, no disrespect to them, but it's just not the same experience.
    Slayter likes this.
  12. Slayter

    Slayter TS Rookie

    I'm happy with the first three PlayStations. There are so many great games who needs a new system?
  13. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    eh just better graphics... I gotta say Killzone got me interested, looks awesome, but there will be plenty of those types of games ahead for PC.
  14. danhodge

    danhodge TS Member Posts: 80   +13

    The current consoles bottleneck what can be done in terms of graphics, and scale. Some people are fine being locked in at graphics which are lower than the 'low' setting on the PC versions, and being locked in at 30fps. But they tend to be the people who haven't experienced the better graphics on a PC.

    Look at it this way: the only thing that let us go from Pacman sized games (not that I dislike Pacman of course) to Battlefield, and Crysis, and Grand Theft Auto, etc, is more powerful consoles. Grand Theft Auto is a great example, because they wanted to add more to GTA4, like jets - but couldn't, because the console couldn't handle more.
    Imagine being able to go into every single house in the game, or imagine what the next stage of destruction could be for Battlefield.

    There is a reason Battlefield limits the amount of people on a console, compared to the 64 per game on PC. People need to realize that we really do need new generation consoles.
  15. fimbles

    fimbles TS Evangelist Posts: 1,171   +203

    Sli does not work that way, Only the memory for one gpu will be used, 6GB
  16. aMerkuri

    aMerkuri TS Enthusiast Posts: 49   +19

    and best part comes after getting three cards of Titan you will still end up in 6GB of VRAM.
  17. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 7,986   +2,879

    No we don't. Consoles are fine for kids but real men use the proper tool. A PC.
    havok585 likes this.
  18. danhodge

    danhodge TS Member Posts: 80   +13

    I agree, I only PC game. But don't you think PC games are being held back, because of games being produced primarily for consoles, and not utilizing the more powerful PC's?
    havok585 likes this.
  19. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 7,986   +2,879

    Of course they are but you have to realize buying a console costs far less than a gaming PC hence their popularity. Publishers are only interested in making money so they publish more games for consoles and put PC games on the back burner. When they're asked about this they always cite: 1. PC game piracy is too rampant. 2. There are far to many PC configurations to be able to cater for all of them.
    While I tend to agree somewhat with their 2nd statement, the 1st one has gotten old very quickly.
  20. killeriii

    killeriii TS Enthusiast Posts: 213   +14

    As for my personal experience, I have 2 as doorstops, 1 still working.
    What happens when it fails (which it will), and I can't buy PS3's new anymore?
    Games become coasters?
    Guess I'll just need a PC powerful enough to emulate it!
    IMO both M$ and Sony made machines prone to failure this last time. I can only hope the next gen are a little more resilient. In contrast, my phat PS2 still works after 13 years. So does my Gamecube for that matter, but Nintendo has always made tough machines.
  21. bernie3674

    bernie3674 TS Rookie

    lol, the RAM size does not affect the speed of graphic card.
    danhodge likes this.
  22. danhodge

    danhodge TS Member Posts: 80   +13

    I wasn't arguing with that fact at all, I totally agree, and only an ignorant douche (to keep language clean) would want them to develop for the minority.
    My comment was just trying to say that whether you play console games or PC games, it will affect you either way - which you seemed to not understand.
  23. In reference to the 30k polygon count, they did not say that was the potential for the ps4; that was just the potential for 1 character in 1 GAME that is coming out THIS year, so the potential count is much higher.

    (Not that polygon counts are the most important aspect of gaming anyway.)
  24. Okay and I still have my original xbox 360 from 8 years ago and it is working beautifully; in contrast I went through 3 ps2 in that consoles lifetime... you can throw out subjective allegories all you want but hardware failure happens... TO EVERY CONSOLE.

    And honestly quit whining about having to buy new games, Sony never said that the ps4 was going to be backwards compatible, so the blame for investing in the current generation is yours alone. You obviously can still play them now and you have been able to, so it's not as if you bought them and never got to use them.
  25. shamus087

    shamus087 TS Rookie Posts: 27

    Ahh so many good things about this. Basically, Sony, Take my money. Really.

    I love that all next gen systems use AMD(most likely). This is so much good news for the whole computer industry.

    People will whine about console ports and what not, but the games are being designed around a PC basically, so while the ports may be just ports, I think we will see a whole bunch of devs porting to the PC with upgraded graphics, because the system is based on x86!

    I love that the system uses 8 cores, I bet we will see so many more games coded for all 8 cores which could mean we will see AMD doing better vs Intel processors. Which will also mean games should play better for all gamers.

    Last gen I was Xbox, this gen Sony. I think I'm going to enjoy my stay.

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