Sony unveils the PlayStation 4, coming this holiday season

By Shawn Knight ยท 105 replies
Feb 20, 2013
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  1. shamus087

    shamus087 TS Rookie Posts: 27

    That depends on the resolution. Lower resolution and you're correct. Higher and you need more memory. You notice this with the benchmarks with 680 @2gigs onboard vs 7970 @3gigs, the 7970 does better at higher the resolution vs the 680.
  2. No Kinect, no sale

    NTAPRO TS Evangelist Posts: 809   +102

    I thought people cared more about gameplay than graphics... At least that what it seems like when people complain about games like COD

    I must be living under a rock lol

    It may be old, but it's not as if it isn't true. You don't see console games setting piracy records in illegal downloads >_>
  4. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,272   +457

    I care about both. I can play old and crappy looking games for nostalgic reason, but if it's modern then it better try to blow me away both graphically and gameplay wise.
    St1ckM4n likes this.
  5. danhodge

    danhodge TS Member Posts: 80   +13

    People don't notice it, but better graphics can improve the immersion for the player. But if the game sucks, then - well, that's an example of painting a turd to look like a cake.
    It wont taste any better, but more people will buy it.

    The main thing is scale. You may be able to get better graphics on screen at one time, but what is better is the chance to have more graphics on screen at once. More players, bigger worlds, massive wars, and more...

    NTAPRO TS Evangelist Posts: 809   +102

    But people talk about consoles games like they are just so bad lol. I'm all for graphics, but even for the graphic heavy games like BF3 and split/second, I don't think I'd enjoy it any less on console just because it doesn't have super ultra high settings that a pc takes advantage of. I just don't think the average family sees a decent gaming rig as a worthwhile investment when there are consoles out there that at least 2 of them and enjoy games at one time.
  7. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,274

    Absolutely, but that isn't to say console games don't get pirated, they do, but on a smaller scale. There are thousands of unsavory characters willing to 'chip' consoles and how many consoles do get 'chipped'?
    It's a great pity that legitimate owners and players are treated like criminals while the pirates walk away wearing smiles like cheshire cats.

    NTAPRO TS Evangelist Posts: 809   +102

    Yeah, it can get pretty bad. Black Ops 2 was pirated pretty heavily and Treyarch and sony are very serious on the matter and aren't hesitating to ban people. I know there was quite a few soft modded consoles, especially when geohot was active before being taken down by sony
  9. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,274

    There's absolutely nothing wrong with consoles or console gaming. I'm just sick & tired of having the pc take a back seat when it comes to games.
    danhodge likes this.
  10. killeriii

    killeriii TS Enthusiast Posts: 213   +14

    I'm not sure if you're trolling or just ignorant.
    I'm leaning towards trolling based on your "Guest" status. I'll humor you anyway.
    Current consoles are lemons compared to their older counterparts.
    No subjective allegories here eh?
    I've personally never heard of a Super Nintendo failing on its own.

    I don't recall mentioning anything about purchasing new games.
    "Guess I'll just need a PC powerful enough to emulate it!" is what I posted. Relating to playing my purchased games in the future.
    Since it looks like you missed my point,
    My issue is with the crappy hardware, not the lack of backward compatibility.
  11. cmbjive

    cmbjive TS Booster Posts: 777   +138

    The only rumor I heard on price was the British price which put it at 300 pound sterling (about $426). I haven't anything regarding a US price.
  12. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    Another rumor I hear today was 599
  13. Controlled sucked on ps1 and now they are still using the same piece of poop. Who cares about the hardware when the peripherals haven't changed in 10+ years. I would actually buy a play station if they innovated there controler design.
  14. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 2,922   +630

    ..And this is the moment we all realise that we've been softly and beautifully trolled by Sony.

    There wasn't even a hint that this was gameplay. Not a single 5 second piece where someone on stage used the new controller to play a tech demo. By the way, even if this did happen, there is no reason why it couldn't have been a PC behind the scenes.

    tl;dr everything is a lie until proven otherwise.
  15. dennis777

    dennis777 TS Enthusiast Posts: 285   +33

    you cant coz you have little common sense. If I have tons of PS3 games why would I buy another console if it cant play my games for that console? Im comparing it to "buying a xbox3 even you already have a PS3". And im talking about the PS4 that cant play PS3 games by the same company who made it. dont bash if you dont want to be bash.
  16. ghasmanjr

    ghasmanjr TS Booster Posts: 363   +86

    False. Far Cry 3:
    The 680 beats the 7970 at all three resolutions on Ultra quality.
  17. Meh, 499 won't be a deal breaker. Hell, people are spending that (and more) for iPads and Android Tablets so they can play Angry Birds and browse the web. This is going to be a very interesting system to follow, the reports I've read on the 720 are it will not be up to the tasks of this machine graphically.
  18. soldier1969

    soldier1969 TS Booster Posts: 244   +43

    My current gaming PC puts this invisible PS4 to shame ( 2 GTX 680s 4gb,512 GB SSD,,i7 @ 4.8 ghz, 2560 x 1600 display), Everyone here is clamoring over specs and games my PC had and could play 2 years ago. I saw lots of lag in the games which were mostly cut scenes running on last years pc hardware btw, and the bandwidth for the presentation was really laggy hardly watchable at times. Consoles lol.
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  19. cmbjive

    cmbjive TS Booster Posts: 777   +138

    Your one GTX 680 card is probably more than what the PS4 will retail for. In fact, your entire system could probably nab me three PS4s.
  20. Sarcasm

    Sarcasm TS Guru Posts: 367   +46

    "On a performance level, we are told that the system is capable of rendering 30,000 polygons in real time. For comparison, Heavy Rain on the PlayStation 3 utilized just 15,000 polygons."

    Seriously, you need to edit this part out. The presentation showed the PS3 is doing 30,000 polygons in the game Beyond Two Souls for the main character.

    The PS4 can probably do something million per character, we don't know yet.
  21. Sarcasm

    Sarcasm TS Guru Posts: 367   +46

    I don't get how people can be so smart to have such good systems, yet be filled with ridiculous amounts of ignorance and douchebaggery.

    Humans, what a waste.
    shamus087 likes this.
  22. technogiant

    technogiant TS Member Posts: 30   +14

    Is your ps3 going to vanish when they release ps4?....if you sell it that's your choice.
  23. avoidz

    avoidz TS Guru Posts: 460   +56

    Pricing in Australia lists it as AU$899 without games, which are AU$119 each.
  24. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,145   +911

    Did you even watch the Killzone Stream? The guy was on stage actually playing it with a Controller -_- same with Knack as well, in fact he came on stage with a PS Vita playing the game.
  25. shamus087

    shamus087 TS Rookie Posts: 27

    Actually its not false, how about looking through a few reviews rather than just one? Here ya go bra,,3442-5.html

    So what we learn here is that at lower resolutions the 680 holds or wins over the 7970, at higher the game uses more memory because of larger resolution textures, thus, 3 gigs GDDR5 is better than 2 gigs. Look here for more proof >,3442-3.html

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