The end of Net Neutrality has had little effect on wireless carriers

[Sausagemeat]

If they didn't open throttle 1000 fold for people willing to pay only twice the money. There would be more to share. There would also be more to share, if they used our money to upgrade. Instead of repairing the same ole sh|t. So throttling to maintain integrity is a pathetic excuse.

You don’t have a clue what you’re flapping about. Of course more bandwidth is going to cost more money. Also, throttling only occurs when there is a large amount traffic on the network. Oh, also I work for a comms company but the company I work for does not throttle, most don’t and slower speeds are usually user error.

 

[cliffordcooley]

slower speeds are usually user error.

OK, you lost me with that stupid comment. Have a good day!

 

[Sausagemeat]

OK, you lost me with that stupid comment. Have a good day!

You don’t have a clue pal. I work in a NOC and deal with this sort of stuff everyday. I even produce reports on the tickets we create and 98% of slow speed tickets are resolved with the “user config” closure code. Get back in your cave.

 

[cliffordcooley]

You don’t have a clue pal.

No one has a clue passed their own perspective. And my perspective is they can upgrade our service passed 3Mbit download/not even 1Mbit upload. Since you say most don't throttle. Come lift our throttle or go away. Ohh and by the way your position in what ever job that is doesn't have anything to do with reality in my perspective. Your reality thinking everything is just fine everywhere is what keeps my ISP reality screwed up.

 

[Sausagemeat]

No one has a clue passed their own perspective. And my perspective is they can upgrade our service passed 3Mbit download/not even 1Mbit upload. Since you say most don't throttle. Come lift our throttle or go away. Ohh and by the way your position in what ever job that is doesn't have anything to do with reality in my perspective. Your reality thinking everything is just fine everywhere is what keeps my ISP reality screwed up.

Lol whatever mate. Your perspective is that of an uneducated and very angry little human being.

I’m like 99% sure the reason for your slow speeds is not because of a “throttle”. Sounds like you’re using ADSL which is very sensitive to distance from exchange and other geographical features. Live somewhere remote by any chance? Either way most networks wouldn’t care for the tiny speeds you have to bother throttling them.

Pitch in with your neighbours and get a private unbundled fibre solution routed to a cabinet at your local exchange or something. 99% of homes already exist at location where infrastructure already exists.

 

[psycros]

Lol whatever mate. Your perspective is that of an uneducated and very angry little human being.

I’m like 99% sure the reason for your slow speeds is not because of a “throttle”. Sounds like you’re using ADSL which is very sensitive to distance from exchange and other geographical features. Live somewhere remote by any chance? Either way most networks wouldn’t care for the tiny speeds you have to bother throttling them.

Pitch in with your neighbours and get a private unbundled fibre solution routed to a cabinet at your local exchange or something. 99% of homes already exist at location where infrastructure already exists.

Its painfully obvious that you haven't worked for/with an American telecom or ISP in at least a decade. Nothing you've said is remotely accurate or relevant in 2018. In fact I doubt you've ever worked in the industry at all.

 

[cliffordcooley]

I’m like 99% sure the reason for your slow speeds is not because of a “throttle”.

You need to stop assuming my education level is less than sufficient. I know we are capped and I know we are getting every bit of our bandwidth. And I can tell when the weather causes problems. I can also tell when the time of day causes community congestion. It has nothing to do with our in house network which you guys in IT seem to continue placing blame.

 

[Sausagemeat]

You need to stop assuming my education level is less than sufficient. I know we are capped and I know we are getting every bit of our bandwidth. And I can tell when the weather causes problems. I can also tell when the time of day causes community congestion. It has nothing to do with our in house network which you guys in IT seem to continue placing blame.

I assume your education level because you actually think a comms company would bother “throttling” your relatively very slow connection. 99% of time bad connections are definitely user error. I bet I could get it fixed if I was in your house, sounds to me like your ISP has already determined that it’s user error. It blatantly is...

 

[Sausagemeat]

Its painfully obvious that you haven't worked for/with an American telecom or ISP in at least a decade. Nothing you've said is remotely accurate or relevant in 2018. In fact I doubt you've ever worked in the industry at all.

Just out of curiosity, what evidence do you have that there is throttling? I work for a UK company but the kit is all the same. By the way, it’s very difficult to throttle individual users. It would need to be done at th local exchange and would cost the company money to install the hardware to do so.

I find it amusing that you question my credentials because it doesn’t fit your zero evidence conspiracy theory. Grow a brain.

 

[cliffordcooley]

I assume your education level because you actually think a comms company would bother “throttling” your relatively very slow connection. 99% of time bad connections are definitely user error. I bet I could get it fixed if I was in your house, sounds to me like your ISP has already determined that it’s user error. It blatantly is...

First of all we may be getting our terms confused. You may not be thinking of the bandwidth being paid for as a throttle when technically it is, and that is what I am referring to. A throttle is a hardware limitation to prevent wide open connectivity. You are thinking of throttle as throttling heavy usage users. No I do not believe that is what is happening.

I do know when we was with Cable Internet, no matter how many times we called for bad service. We could never get them to replace a bad component out at the poll. This component would get wet every time it rained and start causing problems until it dried. Some times it would have bad connections when it dried and never start working correctly until some one came out and serviced it. The technician that was sent out could have fixed our problem but for some reason the company only had a few qualified technicians they would allow to change out the box housing it all. I could have fixed it myself but as a consumer I'm not allowed to even look at the line.

Now that our service is back to DSL we are not having so much of a problem. We are growing tired of the slow rates which is technically a throttle whether you want to see it that way or not. Our rate on DSL is one third that which we were paying for with Cable. Yet our service is three times better.

Neither DSL or Cable though has rats as high as it should be. There is no reason why everyone cant have 100Mbit in this day and age. With the money they bring in it has probably been paid for 100 times over.

 

[senketsu]

you are incorrect:
from the article "Before the demise of Net Neutrality, carriers were still throttling video streaming and other bandwidth intensive tasks. Despite being technically illegal to do so prior, the FCC made little effort to investigate any such matters."
so the carriers were in the past acting illegally, the removal of NN has merely made what was illegal, now legal. If "throttling video streaming and other bandwidth intensive tasks" is, as you put it, good coming out of the end of NN, you are deluded. Services at a discount?? LOL

But you miss the point. If throttling was illegal before NN, and it's illegal after NN, but the FCC hasn't prosecuting anyone, then who cares if we have NN or not?
An unenforced law isn't much better than not having the law at all.

You have not quoted me correctly, in other words a misquote.
throttling was ILLegal before NN, now after removing NN it is LEGAL. Who cares? I care and everyone that has experienced throttling on streaming or bandwidth intensive activity.
"An unenforced law isn't much better than not having the law at all." I completely agree, so enforce the law, not make an illegal practice legal.

edit: why should I pay more for a higher tier of service, when my ISP can throttle it down as they please.

 

[Danny101]

So, when it's all said and done, Net Neutrality was just political marketing and fallacious.

 

[Danny101]

On the positive side, when the new internet royalty-free video codec: AV1, is rolled out, then we will have more data savings. This should at some point help make data restrictions null and void.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AV1