The Netherlands says it will join the US in restricting chipmaking-tool exports to China

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What just happened? The Netherlands' government has announced export controls on chipmaking machinery to China, weeks after reaching an agreement with the US to implement restrictions against the country. The new rules will build upon current restrictions that prevent the most cutting-edge products from being exported to the Asian nation.

At the end of January, it was reported that the US had completed two years of negotiations with the Netherlands and Japan to join the United States in imposing restrictions on the export of chip-manufacturing tools to China. The US says this will prevent its global rival from developing semiconductors for military applications, including supercomputers, nuclear weapons modeling, and hypersonic weapons.

The Netherlands, home to chipmaking giant ASML, has become the first of the two countries to make an official announcement about its new export rules. Companies in the Netherlands are already prohibited from selling their most advanced extreme ultraviolet (EUV) lithography equipment, which costs about $164 million per unit, to Chinese customers as they cannot obtain an export license from the Dutch government due to pressure from the United States. The next step will be to restrict exports of older deep ultraviolet (DUV) lithography tools.

"Given the technological developments and geopolitical context, the government has concluded that it is necessary for the (inter)national security to expand the existing export controls on specific manufacturing equipment for semiconductors," Foreign Trade Minister Liesje Schreinemacher wrote in a letter to Dutch lawmakers. Neither China nor ASML were named in the letter.

ASML released a statement regarding the upcoming export restrictions, which will be introduced before the summer. It writes that the company will need to apply for export licenses for shipments of the most advanced immersion DUV systems. It does not expect the measures to have a material effect on its financial outlook for 2023 or longer-term scenarios.

ASML notes that the controls do not apply to all immersion lithography tools but only those classed as 'most advanced,' though it has not yet received additional information about this exact definition. This would mean the Netherlands' chip-related export restrictions aren't as strict as those imposed by the United States. It's unclear if ASML will still be able to service the $8.4 billion worth of DUV machines it has sold to Chinese customers since 2014.

The US will now be waiting for Japan to make a similar announcement. Some sources say it will come this week, but the country's trade minister says no decisions have been made yet.

Chinese chip firms have been preparing for the new restrictions from the Netherlands and Japan by stockpiling chip-making equipment, components, spare parts, and materials in warehouses. We recently heard that the export controls were having an effect: China's chip imports crashed by 27% in the first two months of 2023, a fall greater than the total decline for all of 2022.

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Good move .... now if Japan will cooperate, China will really start feeling the pinch.
I agree.

While it is easy to argue that the US and US based companies got us into this situation, I think it is a betrayal of trust for China to be so competitive with the US and other countries. IMO, it is beyond reasonable, especially in these modern times where the effective size of the world has shrunk vastly over what it was even only 100-years ago, to think that any one country can be a singular, dominant force in the world. In fact, I think it holds humanity back for any country to pursue dominance in world affairs - even the US.

As I see it, cooperation is the better path. Humanity would be able to do so much better if all countries were able to find a way to cooperate rather than assuming that their way is the best and trying to impose their views on others.

I think the US wants to cooperate with other countries, however, if it means giving everything away to some other country, I don't think that is a path that the US, or any other country, should follow.

Cooperation is far from easy, IMO, however, the best things in life are rarely easy. As I see it, cooperation is far better than war or submission to the whims and rule of others. As it is said, Live and let live.
 
"The Netherlands says it will join the US in restricting chipmaking-tool exports to China"

Not a good move... China will start making its own...! And that is how it becomes number one in the world...! And then US and Holland realize what just hit them so hard...!
 
Netherlands can clamp down on their 'technology' all they want but it's not going to make any difference. China is going to become the world tech leader.

China files more technical patents than the US and Europe combined.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Indicators

China graduated 4.7 million STEM graduates last year. India is second, and the US and Russia are tied at about 500k each.
https://www.statista.com/chart/7913/the-countries-with-the-most-stem-graduates/

Mercedes Benz's single biggest market is China. They sell THREE times more cars in China than in the US.
https://www.best-selling-cars.com/b...des-benz-sales-worldwide-by-region-and-model/

 
Netherlands can clamp down on their 'technology' all they want but it's not going to make any difference. China is going to become the world tech leader.

China files more technical patents than the US and Europe combined.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Indicators

China graduated 4.7 million STEM graduates last year. India is second, and the US and Russia are tied at about 500k each.
https://www.statista.com/chart/7913/the-countries-with-the-most-stem-graduates/

Mercedes Benz's single biggest market is China. They sell THREE times more cars in China than in the US.
https://www.best-selling-cars.com/b...des-benz-sales-worldwide-by-region-and-model/
Its called Communism, achieve or die
 
Netherlands can clamp down on their 'technology' all they want but it's not going to make any difference. China is going to become the world tech leader.

China files more technical patents than the US and Europe combined.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Indicators

China graduated 4.7 million STEM graduates last year. India is second, and the US and Russia are tied at about 500k each.
https://www.statista.com/chart/7913/the-countries-with-the-most-stem-graduates/

Mercedes Benz's single biggest market is China. They sell THREE times more cars in China than in the US.
https://www.best-selling-cars.com/b...des-benz-sales-worldwide-by-region-and-model/
Pity about the extremely contaminated soil, water, food, and air. Pity about the pollinators going extinct, so that people have to resort to extremely inefficient hand pollination in some areas. Too bad for the historic indigenous populations whose villages are being razed. Too bad for all the sweatshop folk who would rather jump than turn up for yet another day. So, if a factory catches fire and burns for hours without anyone being able to notice because of the thick smog... it's progress!

Development at all costs. Drive your Mercedes, and your STEM certificate, into your early grave.
 
Its called Communism, achieve or die
It may be called that but that's not what it is, any more than what we call capitalism is that, too.

What both systems actually are: plutocracy. The only difference is in the details of the implementations.

In the US, elementary-age kids had to strike to try to obtain a 'humane' 55-hour workweek. The Cuyahoga river caught fire quite a few times, along with the Ohio river. We had lead arsenate + copper acetoarsenate pesticides and graduated to the silent spring of DDT. We had our Dust Bowl.

The US did the extra-reckless industrial development thing that China's doing. China, though, has more population to waste with crippling pollution and modern tech (+ global thirst for exploitative product production) that makes this 'development' a lot faster and more ruthless overall. Once upon a time in the US, a journalist could write an article or a book and it could change the nation profoundly (The Jungle, Silent Spring, Uncle Tom's Cabin, the photos of the napalm girl). Now, we live in a world inundated by Internet noise, noise that AI is going to generate even more effectively — to intentionally keep the signal in the hands of the handlers.
 
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