The OLED Burn-In Test: One Month Update

[toooooot]

I'm putting my money on the 4-5 year mark before you notice burn in. I have 2 Alienware monitors in my household, both OLED. Curious to see if your test creates burn in before the 3-year manufacturer's warranty.

The fact that most manufacturers set the mark at 3 years worries me the most. 4 years is it, as the most likely time burn ins appear?

 

[Dimitrios]

I bought my mom a few years ago at Walmart a RCA OLED TV. UPS gave me two upfront for some reason. One box the screen had a long red line on the screen, the 2nd screen was fine. Only once I left the screen on and paused it for a while, came back and had burn in from a logo. It went away after I unpaused it but took awhile for it to clear up.

 

[wiyosaya]

Ultimately microled will be the premium panel, but not until 2030 at earliest will it be mainstream.

According to this article, its predicted that the year for microLED will be 2027.
https://hometheaterreview.com/from-luxury-to-mainstream-microled-tvs-set-to-become-more-affordable/

 

[godrilla]

According to this article, its predicted that the year for microLED will be 2027.
https://hometheaterreview.com/from-luxury-to-mainstream-microled-tvs-set-to-become-more-affordable/

The big question would be will microled displays be as responsive and have competitive latency to oleds?

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we are already reaching 2 ms of input latency at 240hz oleds before the 360hz and 480hz panels are tested.
Plus oleds aren't staying stagnated and have another a around half a decade to improve .

Like breakthrough research on burn in mitigation.

Scientists make breakthrough in preventing OLED burn-in

OLED panels have been around for quite some time but now we are starting to see them come to monitors, raising the concern for burn-in.

www.tweaktown.com

 

[Barnacle Jacobs]

I have. I got 2 phones with burn in. I got air purifiers (2) burn in. I got a washing machine that I turn on once a week with a burn in. I got a smartwatch with a burn in, OLED tablet with tons of burn in... and my friend got an OLED monitor 2 years ago... now he has burn in issues. Clearly seen too, you don't have to zoom in, or do tests to find them. Easy to see stuff. So yeah, as good as OLED is, I pass on it hard. Everything you said is true, dont get me wrong. Facts are facts, but my facts aint wrong either. My experience is not positive, aside from the amazing benefits from the tech of course. I'm happy for you, but your luck is different compared to mine/my friends. I just woke up after 8 hours of sleep. I forgot to turn off my monitor and PC. This is literally the first thing I do now, typing this comment. I would be scared if I had OLED. I often fall asleep too, so RIP OLED TV/monitor.

If I was rich? OLED ALL THE WAY. Whos rich nowadays tho? My 4K TV is now 10 years old. Yes, 4K is that old, does that make ya feel old? Its like yesterday... when nobody had 4K anything LOL.

This comment sounds made up and I call bullshit. I've had an LG OLED for 4 years now, kids have it on all the time, no burn in, all my phones have been ones with OLED screens, no burn in, Alienware OLED monitor for almost a year, no burn in..... Sorry but I just don't believe any of this.

 

[Endymio]

Samsung Display are going all-in with OLED. Why? Because it is the future.

Oops! Samsung's most expensive current TV is the LCD model Q80C in 4K. They've already announced their 8K version of this, coming soon, for a price of $15K.

 

[mrmason62]

I've read some bizarre comments about how poor LED technology is.
What's the finest panel money can buy?
Is it the marvelous OLED?
No its not
The finest panel money can buy is Sony master monitor. It's LED.
You know, that awful technology that isn't in the same league as OLED.

 

[kiwigraeme]

TechSpot, thanks for saying 240Hz was better than expected for office productivity! Refresh rate is sometimes an accessibility feature for a percentage of us.

Fantastic to know that mainstream media is acknowledging that 240Hz is no longer just for esports; it is a fantastic eyestrain-reducer for some of us motionsick people.

Some of us (10% of population) get motionsick from having only 30-60fps on a giant immersive screen sitting on our desks.

When we put gigantic screens on desks like 45" OLEDs instead of 15" CRTs, the refresh rate matters a heck lot more in ergonomics, even for office productivity. While some of us are fine with 30-60fps, some of us need way more framerate even during scrolling (low framerate scrolling can make some of us motionsick).

Birds who need to flit through trees and prey animals have "fast" eyes , kind of like fps processed.
Well humans do have quite a bit of variation . All those top baseball/tennis /F1 athletes see at "higher" speed. So makes sense hand eye ball co-ordination.

So for some kids who have a low score , no amount of practice will get them to the top . Not sure how changeable it is , haven't seen research on that . But brain focus is probably a thing , ie brain learns to focus on what's relevant

 

[Disiw]

I've read some bizarre comments about how poor LED technology is.
What's the finest panel money can buy?
Is it the marvelous OLED?
No its not
The finest panel money can buy is Sony master monitor. It's LED.
You know, that awful technology that isn't in the same league as OLED.

Hahah no. Hollywood uses OLED as reference monitors and Hollywood mastering studios are switching to QD-OLED as we speak.

OLED won best TV for several years in a row. LCD is not even close and everyone with knowledge about TVs knows OLED is far superior, if you are in doubt, go read Flatpanels.com or Rtings, or any other site that actually knows about TVs.

Both Samsung and LG says OLED is the future for now. LCD is for lower end products.

LCD is poor technology. It has tons of flaws compared to OLED.

 

[Disiw]

Oops! Samsung's most expensive current TV is the LCD model Q80C in 4K. They've already announced their 8K version of this, coming soon, for a price of $15K.

8K is an absolute joke for now and the fact you think 8K is going to matter any time soon tells me you know nothing about TVs.

There's not even 8K blurays and probably will never see the light of day either.

We need higher bitrate 4K/UHD and more fps before 8K is even worth talking about. Thats why 8K TV sales drops year for years instead of increasing. No point at all and upscaling makes little to no difference.

 

[Disiw]

The fact that most manufacturers set the mark at 3 years worries me the most. 4 years is it, as the most likely time burn ins appear?

You have no experience with OLED I see. Burn-in don't just pop up day to day hahaha.

Too many people in this thread have NO EXPERIENCE with OLED at all. It is obvious.

I have had 20+ phones with OLED in the last 10-15 years. 5, no actually 6 OLED TVs and have not seen burn-in at all even with peaked brightness. Just awesome image quality that destroys any LCD.

Gaming or watching movies on an OLED at night = True immersion that no LCD panel will match or even come close to matching. LCD is literally terrible for dark room viewing and HDR looks bad.

The backlighting is the huge issue with LCD. It is just a mess.

TVs with Mini LED backlighing disables pretty much all zones in game mode because it takes 200-300ms to control it properly, it is just a flawed tech.

Even the best LCD TV don't come close to matching OLED, but sure you can act like it does. Meanwhile all the big TV sites like Rtings and Flatpanels say OLED is the clear winner. WONDER WHY

 

[Disiw]

"Colors are richer on LCD and especially with HDR. Yeah, you got 100% contrast, but everything else is flat."

Your assertion is the exact opposite of the truth. OLEDs have a far wider color gamut than LCDs. Read ANY OLED review (start with TFT Central) and its HDR superiority... then come back and apologize. Clearly, you are trolling.

100% true.

OLED destoys LCD completely in terms of contrast and colors.

Anyone with actual knowledge about TVs and panels knows this.

Rtings, TFT Central, Flatpanels, every TV test site says OLED beats LCD easily and I know for sure myself. It is not even close.

You can't go back to LCD when you have seen OLED. LCD looks mediocre in comparison. LCD simply has too many issues and backlight is the single biggest problem with the tech, which can't be fixed.

 

[toooooot]

You have no experience with OLED I see. Burn-in don't just pop up day to day hahaha.

Too many people in this thread have NO EXPERIENCE with OLED at all. It is obvious.

I have had 20+ phones with OLED in the last 10-15 years. 5, no actually 6 OLED TVs and have not seen burn-in at all even with peaked brightness. Just awesome image quality that destroys any LCD.

Gaming or watching movies on an OLED at night = True immersion that no LCD panel will match or even come close to matching. LCD is literally terrible for dark room viewing and HDR looks bad.

The backlighting is the huge issue with LCD. It is just a mess.

TVs with Mini LED backlighing disables pretty much all zones in game mode because it takes 200-300ms to control it properly, it is just a flawed tech.

Even the best LCD TV don't come close to matching OLED, but sure you can act like it does. Meanwhile all the big TV sites like Rtings and Flatpanels say OLED is the clear winner. WONDER WHY

I have experience and I know how it works. My sister just replaced an older SAamsung phone it it has very visible app icons burn ins.
It highly depends on usage and usage types.
I never doubted that you or anyone else can and will use oled devices for a long time and would not have it. I am fully aware that someone is totally ok facing this problem right when 3 year burn in warranty expires since they will just get another one.
But I think this is something you do not understand. It is unacceptable for some of us to have to replace a 1k+ display every 3 years. 3 years, is it not obvious? They are not fools, they know where the limit is.

And since you mentioned lcd, what was the last time you looked at a modern, not cheaply made, lcd display? That backlight is the thing of the past or common to the very low cost models.

 

[Disiw]

I have experience and I know how it works. My sister just replaced an older SAamsung phone it it has very visible app icons burn ins.
It highly depends on usage and usage types.
I never doubted that you or anyone else can and will use oled devices for a long time and would not have it. I am fully aware that someone is totally ok facing this problem right when 3 year burn in warranty expires since they will just get another one.
But I think this is something you do not understand. It is unacceptable for some of us to have to replace a 1k+ display every 3 years. 3 years, is it not obvious? They are not fools, they know where the limit is.

And since you mentioned lcd, what was the last time you looked at a modern, not cheaply made, lcd display? That backlight is the thing of the past or common to the very low cost models.

I have a 2019 LG C9 running on year 5 now in my office, 4K/UHD HDR at 120 Hz, with zero burn-in. It has even been used massively for PC gaming with HUD all over on full brightness for the last 3 years. First two were mainly console, tv and movies. Flawless image quality 5+ years later.

I have seen pretty much every high-end LCD TV in the last 5 years and yeah backlight continues to be a huge issue, especially when you put the TV in game mode and dimming zones goes from 100s or 1000s to 16, 8, 4 or even disables them completely. Do you read reviews? This is a complain on all LCD TVs.

Why? Because backlight control takes up processing power and adds input lag like crazy. This is not what you want in Game Mode.

Hard to beat OLEDs 8,294,400 "dimming zones" anyway > Pixel perfect image. Per pixel control is the only way to deliver a flawless image.

LCD is doomed and OLED has already taken over high-end phone and TV market long ago. Monitor market is next. Both Samsung and LG is all-in on OLED. Even Samsung Display said LCD development is waste of money and Samsung Electronics buys 3rd party LCD panels now.

LCD is unfixable. Tech has too many flaws. That is reality for you.

You are afraid of burn-in yet accept tons of issues on DAY ONE with LCD. Funny.

Most people that are afraid of burn-in never had a newer OLED TV anyway. You ramble about stuff you have zero experience with.

LCD = Blooming and clouding, backlight bleed, smearing, bad uniformity, corner glow (both IPS and VA), bad viewing angles (wide viewing angle filter will reduce contrast big time and still viewing angles are bad), low contrast, bad HDR.

Just a few of LCDs flaws. No wonder LCD is mostly used in cheaper TVs and devices now.

Every single person that knows about actual high-end TVs use OLED for a reason. This is 2024 not 2014, OLED burn-in is a not a problem, unless you disable all software to mitigate it and runs CNN/BBC for 24/7/365 and never let pixel cleaning happen.

I will never go back to LCD again. Thats for sure. The last LCD panel in my life, is my current monitor. Will be replaced by OLED this year or next.

If you can't afford OLED, fine. But don't talk crap about a superior tech. OLED beat LCD for years in the high-end TV market and every single new mid to high end phone uses OLED and have done for years. LCD is literally dead when you talk high-end in these markets.

LCD can't be fixed. Backlight control will never improve and game mode will disable them. It is too expensive to make enough dimming zones for LCD to be relevant. Making LCD pointless. Which is why Samsung Display stopped developing LCD completely. OLED is the future till Micro LED takes over, which is 2030+ and will cost twice or triple of OLED in the first many years.

Do you even read TV reviews? OLED destoys the competition and have done for years. This is nothing new.