Thoughts on Vista/What is Your Problem With Vista

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I wont use vista until about a year or so.

I tried it for about 2 months. Worked ok, seemed a bit slower than WinXp, but looked alot nicer..eye candy. Then I started to get mouse problems, jumping around and not working properly with audio software....couldnt use virtual volume knobs. So, I went out and bought a brand new vista compatible mouse along with some extra memory Thats when problems started happening. First, My internet explorer would freeze/crash. Then the OS would start to freeze and would not respond to mouse or keyboard entries. So I rebooted in safe mode and things were working again. So then I rebooted normally and got to a blank screen(black)! Hey, but the mouse still worked! Wow! After numerous attempts of rebooting I said screw this and went out and bought Windows XP Professional addition, which I think is the most stabe reliable OS out. I've been using at work for CAD designs for over 2 years and it has never crashed on me. It's expensive but definately worth the money. You can also download Power toys and eye candy tools if you want the Vista look. IMO, its too early for vista, unless you buy a brand new computer with a Vista OS and complete vista certified components...but I wouldnt try messing around or upgrading hardware.

My XP pro is running like a champ. My game settings are all set to high and frame rates are incredible running at the highest resolution. My internet connection on Vista was maxing out around 500kb/s, With XP pro downloading is averaging about 800kb/s.
 
Hey, can't you just imagine an MS tech guy looking around for threads like these so he can find and fix all the reported bugs in Vista? ;)
 
VISTA is now designed to automatically report back to Microsoft. Remember the old Windows XP would give you that dump box on the screen asking you if you wanted to send an error report to Microsoft. Not it is done whether you want to or not.
The errors so far at our shop, and our association of computer repair shops are astonishingly low, in comparison to any other install... and mostly have to do with odd ball drivers for devices installed by the owner, instead of install by the manufacturer.
 
link590o said:
....I really can't understand what most of your problems are. you ALL know the requirements that vista has before trying to install and run it. it tells you before hand that you need at least a certain amount. what is it that you don't understand about REQUIREMENTS? that means they list the MINIMUM it will run at. you'll need more and better hardware to run it smoothly.
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Have you ran Vista? If you read through the posts, you will see where some people are having issues with Vista, from computers they just bought that more than meet the minimum requirement that M$ recommends. I think a lot of people blame Vista when they may be missing say drivers for example, or have DL'd Vista on a machine that does not meet minimum requirements. As a matter of fact, I think there was someone that made a post about Vista running really slow on their machine, turns out they only had like 512mb of ram and was trying to run some graphics app or something! So I kinda think "some" of the people having these issues have machines that may be barely capable of running XP much less a memory hog like Vista. So really, I think, some blame the OS when they should blame the POS computer they are trying to run it on! But some people have top notch systems and are still missing something.
I guess bottom line is, many people are so quick to blame Vista, or blame it just because everyone else is. Without really looking into what other factors may exist that are really causing their problems. ;)

You will find people on this site that have been running Vista for a while now with no issues. I am one of them.
 
As I have said before, we are now at nearly 100 installs... without any problems. You need 1 GB of memory and modern components
 
Well, to be perfectly honest Halo, I'm surprised that you think that. I've surfed dozens of these vista problem forum type things and a lot of them are having the same problem...I admit, I may have overlooked that there are a few other factors, but you must admit that the larger majority of people having problems have computers that are less than stellar, and they refuse to acknowledge it.

It may be processor related, graphics related, hell even software related. But I can't help but think that people were far too hasty getting it. There were even programs put out by Microsoft that would TELL you if your computer wasn't ready. If you had all the knowledge and ability to test whether it would work, there shouldn't be problems. And if you went out and bought it knowing FULL WELL that it wouldn't work, why did you buy it and start complaining? See what I'm saying?

All I'm saying is people should do the research, and be patient with buying some new-fangled product that Microsoft was putting out. As a matter of fact, that's why I was surfing so many forums. To see if my computer could handle it. And I know it can't. So I plan on buying a kick@$$ computer and then installing vista on it.

And btw, I'm happy it works for you. So...kudos...
My friend has a copy of vista as well and his works like a charm.
If all goes well, I'll have a vista computer up and running with fantastic results.

BUT ANYWAY. I reiterate. Wait before you buy Microsoft's crap.
 
Okay but you are missing my point. Basically you are saying that you have in fact not ran Vista, or have no personal experience? At least that is what I gather. And what you say about people installing Vista having machines that can't handle it, and then complaining about it being a POS, is exactly what I am saying. It almost seems like you are basing your statement off of what you have read in forums and the like? Is that a fair statement? On the other hand some people have computers that can handle it, but still have problems. But I think those people, instead of trying to figure out what is exactly causing the problem. Automatically say, IT's ALL BECAUSE OF VISTA! Yeah that's right! See what I am saying?

And I reiterate as well, IF you personally have not used Vista. How can you say "wait before you buy Microsoft's crap"? That is kinda like me never having owned or drove a Ferrari F50, saying don't buy this crappy car! Wait a year, it will be better. Bottom line again is that Vista is a great OS and can only get better. And if you think back, people dogged XP the same way when it first came to light. And is XP not the greatest thing since sliced bread these days? Well to most people that is, at least?
 
Aright look. I have used Vista, but don't own it. I have a close contact that has it and loves it. I don't just get info from other forums and then post some comment where I don't know what I'm talking about.

All I was doing was attacking a specific target audience: mainly those that have crappy computers and then complain that it's all Vista's fault. And I attack them only. OF COURSE there are going to be problems outside of that! That's almost a given! I get that.

I agree with pretty much everything you've said. I'm only adding that it's a good idea to wait before you get it so you can hear about the software bugs. And usually by a year after the release date, the bugs have been resolved and it's a bit safer to buy. It also happens to be about the time that they start making things that are exclusive to that OS.

I essentially dunno what we're arguing about.
 
how about instead of a debate, we can discuss what we like about it? like the way they have the media set up with a central equalizer?
 
beef_jerky4104 said:
I heard somewhere that Vista is like the next Me.
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Quite right, ME was just a "fill in" until XP was ready, So why bother with Vista? when (code name ) "VIENNA" is 18months away! a total new file system too..... Yet more money in the microsoft bank.........
 
Oh, if you believe the hype then Vienna (which is really just Windows NT 7) has a number of big changes. One is the GUI, which is set to radically change, apparently. No more "Start Menu", etc.

There is also an NTFS replacement which has an advanced metadata search engine and some other stuff.

Processes run in a "sandbox" where they can't do things to the network, HAL, kernel, file system, etc. Its likely that virtual machine technology will play a part in this.
 
halo71 said:
Have you ran Vista? If you read through the posts, you will see where some people are having issues with Vista, from computers they just bought that more than meet the minimum requirement that M$ recommends. I think a lot of people blame Vista when they may be missing say drivers for example, or have DL'd Vista on a machine that does not meet minimum requirements. As a matter of fact, I think there was someone that made a post about Vista running really slow on their machine, turns out they only had like 512mb of ram and was trying to run some graphics app or something! So I kinda think "some" of the people having these issues have machines that may be barely capable of running XP much less a memory hog like Vista. So really, I think, some blame the OS when they should blame the POS computer they are trying to run it on! But some people have top notch systems and are still missing something.
I guess bottom line is, many people are so quick to blame Vista, or blame it just because everyone else is. Without really looking into what other factors may exist that are really causing their problems. ;)

You will find people on this site that have been running Vista for a while now with no issues. I am one of them.
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Well...I ran the good old vista compatibility software from microsoft and it said my com was vista compatible. I have an XPS 400 with 4 gigs of ram too.
I'm sure vista will be good in some later time. I'm perfectly happy with WinXp Pro for now.
 
As of now, a lot of third party software producers like HP and NVidia haven't kept up with Vista's high expectations. They had a long time to prepare for it and when it finally came out, there were and are a lot of combatibility and performance issues. I wouldn't get Vista until SP1 comes out and more companies get up to par.
 
There are not A LOT. There are some. A bare, remarkably few. Significantly less than with any other software issue... and they are limited to a a very few models.
The only problem we see with Windows VISTA is there is no reason for it. Security so far seems little better. Adjustments by techs is more difficult. It is just another operating system... hardly any better than Windows XP Professional... it has not justified the cost on any of the now 287 machines we have installed... whether new, or upgrades.
Those very few problems are easily fixable if the system configuration justified it in the first place.
 
that makes alot of sense...

I don't care for vista very much. If there are any reasons I would get it, It would be for 64-bit and halo 2. The end.
 
I'll eventually install Vista out of curiosity mostly... I have computer skills and I like to be able to play my games, read and post email and surf the Web for news and information easily. If Vista slows me down or keeps me from doing what I want to do, I won't be happy. I do like to solve problems though :)
 
No, I had a very good reason.
My clients paid me to do it... and they paid well for it... Including one large insurance company, and one realty firm who needed the lastest thing for their networks as dictated by the home office.
And we put it on all new machines which our customers order. WXP will not have a long life of Microsoft support.
 
I'm hoping the Intel GMA950 on the laptop I just ordered will be sufficient to run Aero if I do upgrade to Vista. For now, it will be running XP Pro (haven't gotten it yet).
 
Tmagic650 said:
I'll eventually install Vista out of curiosity mostly...
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I think I have to agree completely. There's one other reason I kind of want to try Vista. I found an ad in my college campus and it listed student discounts. Apparently, I can get Vista Premium for only 89 dollars! That's pretty effing amazing if I do say so myself. At the very least, if I do get it and don't like it, at least I won't have spent a fortune on it.
 
completely ****, needs atleast sp1 to come out/ sp2 full of bugs wud not advice, i have got over 50 different errors with a brand new custom built fully working pc, now it keeps tellin me my ram is broke, when its perfectly fine in my other computer :S do not buy until sp1/ SP2!
 
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